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Smoked a Newer Camero SS!

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O.K., so I guess you could call it a race. There I am minding my own business cruising thru some backroads twisties and this Camero SS decides to start taging along. I pull him easily thru the turns and leave him in the dust. He still follows along running up on me now and then when I have to slow for traffic. Then I turn on to a four lane highway and I think he has given up and went the other way. Wrong! Here he comes again. Traffic clears, we are both going about 55-60, him behind me, and I drop into 3rd and away we go. I pulled away from him like a big dog! Hit 140 before I knew it and he was waaay back there. Please forgive my enthusiasm as this was my first challenge in my NSX. I just figured that a newer Camero SS would have made a little better showing than that. Man I love this car! :D :D :D :D P.S.- Still all stock.
 
Acura NsX Pilot said:
I hate camaros but a camaro ss would have no problems eating a nsx .........

What makes you say that? The SS has comparable or slower acceleration times to a 3.0L NSX in magazine tests I have seen.
 
Acura NsX Pilot said:
I hate camaros but a camaro ss would have no problems eating a nsx ......... if anything maybe the rate of speed scared him off.

Dead wrong! The NSX has no problem chewing up a Camaro. Just remember, the NSX is no-where as weak as people like to talk about. That is just talk, all talk. The NSX gearing and power allows it to do some damage against those cars (not as good as the 6 spd.) Drive it good and hard enough, you will get a C5, too. I, myself has got a SS and 2 WS6 to go on that list
 
Zipy said:
we are both going about 55-60, him behind me, and I drop into 3rd and away we go. I pulled away from him like a big dog!
You could have pulled away even faster by dropping into second.
 
Acura NsX Pilot said:
The one i ran up against was supposed to be stock but it pulled really hard on me :confused:

Camaro's and Trans-Am's, like the Corvette's, have a cheap upgrade, especially the head-and-cam package, which will make the car looks like stock, but perform briliantlly. However, since the performances are close in stock form, a good driver can make one of those things hook up better than a NSX; therefore, beat it.
 
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The 3.0l NSX dynos around 260-265rwhp and the Camaro SS's dyno anywhere from 296 up to 316 rwhp(horrible factory tolerances) absolutely stock. But we have a big weight advantage over the Camaro's... It should be a close race IMO. Mo - Elite.
 
interesting topic,

I have a co-worker with a 02' Camaro Z28 convertible automatic with a hypertech chip and exhaust and he wants to race me. (93 X 5spd, headers, exhaust, stock wheels).

Will I be able to beat him in a quarter mile?
 
blknsxnoc said:
I have a co-worker with a 02' Camaro Z28 convertible automatic with a hypertech chip and exhaust and he wants to race me. (93 X 5spd, headers, exhaust, stock wheels).

Will I be able to beat him in a quarter mile?
With equal drivers, then yes, absolutely. But that is an important assumption.
 
Automatic convertible Z28, you will beat him quite easy. Try to find a way not to get bog down in 1st gear; let the clutch out a little bit, then bang it so you are not standing in one place doing burn-out.
 
Elite said:
The 3.0l NSX dynos around 260-265rwhp

Where are you getting those kind of rwhp numbers from? Typically a 3.0 will duno around 230-240.

I think the 3.2L will dyno closer to the numbers you mention.
 
hmmm

since the topic started out minding our own buisness and then a challenge arrives, i had one. A TT 95 lightly modded RX7. Car looked fantastic but we both hit it and I walked him a good amount hitting 148mph before hitting some light traffic. This happend 3 times before i recieved a thumbs up from the MAzda Owner before heading our own ways.
 
Who gives the people this idea that the NSX is not strong enough. For a 12 years old car in stock form, if you ain't driving a 996TT, ZO6, or 360 Modena, you are asking for it. Sure, it has less of an aftermarket support and owners are likely to keep their cars pritine, but the cra can hold it own and looks dang good and rare while doing it.

Yeah, I got a black 93 RX7, too, with some kind of a BOV. He thought that his BOV will really scared me.
 
camaro ss

i have lined up on a couple camaro ss's at the local dragstrip. they all had an exhaust (at least) but did not appear to be heavily modded at all. 13.6-13.7 vs. my 12.9's.

i was able to pull a 13.8 when my 91 was stock, but if you eliminate the 1-2 shift flat spot (i.e. taking off from a 2nd or 3rd gear roll), i dont think an ss can compete with the top end of the nsx. :D
 
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RedlineRex said:
i have lined up on a couple camaro ss's at the local dragstrip. they all had an exhaust (at least) but did not appear to be heavily modded at all. 13.6-13.7 vs. my 12.9's.

i was able to pull a 13.8 when my 91 was stock, but if you eliminate the 1-2 shift flat spot (i.e. taking off from a 2nd or 3rd gear roll), i dont think an ss can compete with the top end of the nsx. :D

Redlinerex,

what mods do you have
 
Re: camaro ss

RedlineRex said:
i have lined up on a couple camaro ss's at the local dragstrip. they all had an exhaust (at least) but did not appear to be heavily modded at all. 13.6-13.7 vs. my 12.9's.

i was able to pull a 13.8 when my 91 was stock, but if you eliminate the 1-2 shift flat spot (i.e. taking off from a 2nd or 3rd gear roll), i dont think an ss can compete with the top end of the nsx. :D

Redlinerex,

what mods do you have
 
dc header, taitec gt lightweight exhaust, injen intake, dali hot chip, ct r&p, japanese short gears, ct pg2 clutch.

the tranny gearing helped the most in the 1/4mi times (13.8 stock vs. 13.1 w/ tranny work), the header, exhaust and chip didnt net much according to my record of timeslips (1-2 tenth max).
 
Mark, no, still haven't gotten the flowmaster exhaust on yet. Will definately get it done this winter. Found a set of headers for $450, but I haven't seen them yet. I'll probably buy 'em if they are in good shape. How did your car come out? Gary.
 
Gary,

The repairs went fine. Since I got my car back, I've been to a FL get-together, a GA mountain run, and, most recently an HPDE at TWS.

My only gripe is that now (I think because of the SC) the ECU is throwing codes. So, the car is back in the shop.
 
I noticed there is some misinformation here about LS1's.
First there is not that much difference between a Z28 and SS in performance. The SS has between 5-10HP more than a Z28 due to the better flowing catback, but it has more weight because of the wider wheels and tires etc...
Second, A4 stock LS1's are not as fast as the M6 LS1's in stock form. Now when modded the Auto's are faster in the 1/4mile since they can use big stalls on their TC.
A4 usually dyno between 280-290rwhp and some 300rwhp but u wont see that alot.
M6's LS1's usually dyno between 300-315rwhp and some 320rwhp but u wont see that alot.
1/4mile times and runs are broken down like this:
A4's run between 13.4-13.8 at 103-105mph.
M6's run between 12.9-13.4 at 105-108mph.
MY car ran 13.3-13.4 at 106-107 stock with a very bad 2.1-2.2 60ft on the thin stock 245 tires.

These are real numbers from owners not magazines.

I also noticed someone saying that LS1's respond to mods very nicely which is true. I gained 100rwhp with only intake, headers, Cutout and one lonely Cam. Everything else is stock in the motor and the heads were never off the car. Here is the dyno sheet http://www.msnusers.com/CarsRelatedGroup/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=10

The whole cost was around 1755 since i did most of the work my self. Of course i spent more money on making these boats to handle LOL. MY setup is for road course racing....... I hope i did clear things up for you guys :)
 
Zipy said:
I just figured that a newer Camero SS would have made a little better showing than that.

The Camaro should have put a better fight, but i guess u were the better driver :thumbup: and good kill. By the way what does ur car run in terms of trapspeed?
 
New Camaros or TransAm's are nothing to mess with--that LS1 is an amazingly mod friendly motor. 1/4 mile I would put money on an LS1 if it was racing a stock 3.0l NSX. That car is simply a beast--not only factory underrated but extremely fast no matter if it's a auto or manual. Keep it safe out there guys,

ravi:D
 
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