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SSR Competitions

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Anyone have these on there NSX 17-18 combo would love to see a pic.




Steven 91 Blk/Ivory
 
Look for any pics of the bee at the track I use them.Steve I agree the central hub piece is big,but I'm sure there is some place that can custom make a flater disk to fit.The bmw guys I've seen have done this.
 
docjohn said:
Look for any pics of the bee at the track I use them.Steve I agree the central hub piece is big,but I'm sure there is some place that can custom make a flater disk to fit.The bmw guys I've seen have done this.

Docjohn can you scan me a close up shot of the Rim and elaborate on what you mean by custom making a flater disk.



Thanks
Steven 91 Blk/Ivory
 
here are a couple of shots of docjohn's track wheels

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Thank-you Bob for posting those(I'm a picture posting putz).If you look closely I'm not using the center cap,and the hub bolt is therefore exposed.If you go to tire rack's site they have picks of this wheel also.If you do use these at track events don't use the center caps because they are only pressed fit on with a rubber O ring as a seal and under the braking heat of track driving the trapped air in the hub cap becomes so hot it will literaly pop the cap off ! btw I use a 17/17 combo.
 
docjohn said:
Thank-you Bob for posting those(I'm a picture posting putz).If you look closely I'm not using the center cap,and the hub bolt is therefore exposed.If you go to tire rack's site they have picks of this wheel also.If you do use these at track events don't use the center caps because they are only pressed fit on with a rubber O ring as a seal and under the braking heat of track driving the trapped air in the hub cap becomes so hot it will literaly pop the cap off ! btw I use a 17/17 combo.

Just a thought, drill a small hole on the center cap; say 1/64” to equalize the pressure.
 
Steven Spanbauer said:
Anyone have these on there NSX 17-18 combo would love to see a pic.

Steven 91 Blk/Ivory

Steven,

FYI,

Something that you might want to consider while checking the SSR comps.

The 18x9.5 is only available with a 50mm offset, the fronts are 17x7.5 with a 42 mm offset. So the rears will be receded in quite a bit compared to the fronts. You also want to take into consideration that the fronts are actually farther out because of the thicker hat on the Stoptech Rotor.

The 17 x 9.5 mm comes in a 42mm offset.

I found this out after ordering the SSR C's this afternoon. The Tire Rack is checking the caliper clearance to make sure that they will clear the ST-40 caliper on the NSX kit.

I'm ditching the TE37's that I use as my track wheels, since I don't have the confidence to run with regular spacers for the track. (note that I am referring to spacers and not the H&R adapters)

I ran a track event on Sunday down in Buttonwillow to test my front setup with some 5mm spacers and some longer studs, and I all I can say is that I was not happy with the results. My front lug nuts required retorquing after almost every single run at the track, and the front wheels shuddered under cornering at high (95mph+) speeds.

The ambient temperature at the track was around 37 degrees when the event started and by the end of the day it had gone up to around 65 or so. Track temperatures varied from about 35 degrees to around 75 degrees in the afternoon.

I did not experience any similar problems with my wheels at my 2 other track events last weekend, that was with no spacers but with much lower track temperatures.

One more thing, make sure that the studs that you are using can actually be used with spacers.

Some of the ones that are in the market explicitly state that you should not use spacers with them.

The ones that I received were no name brands, and I stripped 3 of them while pressing them into the front hub assembly. A couple of them stripped at the base where it meets the hub assembly, thus becoming loose. The other one stripped easily while I was using a nut to pull the stud into the hub assembly.. All I can say is that they are worthless. I'm going back to the longer OEM Acura Studs (to compensate for the thicker hats on the Stoptechs) and will not be running with any spacers at all.

Ken
 
Taj said:
Just a thought, drill a small hole on the center cap; say 1/64? to equalize the pressure.

That might work, but hubcaps can melt because of how hot the wheels can get at track events. I've measured wheel temperatures exceeding 300 degrees F on the rear wheels of my NSX.

Most track event organizers requires that the hubcaps be off, since they can become road hazards at the track.

Just my 2 cents.

Ken
 
I'm planning on ordering the SSR Competition wheels as well.
17X7.5 Front and 18X9.5 rear. Tire sizes I plan on using are 215/40/17 Front and 255 or 265/35/18 in the rear. I was assured by Tire Rack that I should have no fitment problems on an otherwise stock 1993 NSX.


I inquired about the Brembo Gran Turismo packages as well but they said the Competitions will not clear them but the SSR GT1 wheels will. But at $5000 for front and rear Brembos considering how good the factory brakes are, I'd rather spend the money putting a turbo on the Hayabusa. :eek:
 
Hugh said:
I'm planning on ordering the SSR Competition wheels as well.
17X7.5 Front and 18X9.5 rear. Tire sizes I plan on using are 215/40/17 Front and 255 or 265/35/18 in the rear. I was assured by Tire Rack that I should have no fitment problems on an otherwise stock 1993 NSX.


I inquired about the Brembo Gran Turismo packages as well but they said the Competitions will not clear them but the SSR GT1 wheels will. But at $5000 for front and rear Brembos considering how good the factory brakes are, I'd rather spend the money putting a turbo on the Hayabusa. :eek:

Yep, I just found out the *hard* way that they won't clear the Stoptech's either :(. Argh..

17 x 7.5 with 42mm offset, I should have known given that the TE-37's in 17x7.5 don't clear the caliper with a 40mm offset. I was hoping that the difference in the shape of the spokes would make a difference.. I was wrong.

I called them 2 times to verify that they would clear the calipers, and they stated that they would, but this morning I tried the template and nope, it won't clear the kit. Time to send this stuff back... I recall someone suggesting a FAQ for wheel fitting for BBK's being proposed earlier on, I think that it's time.

Ken
 
2slow2speed said:
Yep, I just found out the *hard* way that they won't clear the Stoptech's either :(. Argh..

17 x 7.5 with 42mm offset, I should have known given that the TE-37's in 17x7.5 don't clear the caliper with a 40mm offset. I was hoping that the difference in the shape of the spokes would make a difference.. I was wrong.

I called them 2 times to verify that they would clear the calipers, and they stated that they would, but this morning I tried the template and nope, it won't clear the kit. Time to send this stuff back... I recall someone suggesting a FAQ for wheel fitting for BBK's being proposed earlier on, I think that it's time.

Ken

Did you try a spacer??
 
I have 17/18s. I think they look great.
 

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2slow2speed said:
I purchased the wheels so that I would not have to run spacers on my dedicated track setup.

Ken
Hi Ken,
The Volk GTP 6 spokes 17x8 et 41mm will clear Stoptech without a spacer. I believe Supergreen used that set-up in his car. Another possibility is the SSR GT1 17x8 et 38mm. BTW, if Tirerack gave you the wrong info, they should take care of that.
Steve
 
whiteNSXs said:
Hi Ken,
The Volk GTP 6 spokes 17x8 et 41mm will clear Stoptech without a spacer. I believe Supergreen used that set-up in his car. Another possibility is the SSR GT1 17x8 et 38mm. BTW, if Tirerack gave you the wrong info, they should take care of that.
Steve

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the info, I had to send a pointer to the Stoptech template to them so that they could verify my claims, LOL.

Both the GTP and the GT1's are a bit heavy for the track so I am researching some other options.

BTW: My GC-07's clear the calipers without any spacers but I don't want to use them as track wheels since they are in pristine condition.

Ken
 
fyi-
i had to use a .062 spacer to clear the stoptech brakes with my 17x8 gtp +41
 
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2slow2speed said:
I ran a track event on Sunday down in Buttonwillow to test my front setup with some 5mm spacers and some longer studs, and I all I can say is that I was not happy with the results. My front lug nuts required retorquing after almost every single run at the track, and the front wheels shuddered under cornering at high (95mph+) speeds.
Ken, I'd be concerned that the lugs were not simply loosening but that the studs were stretching. That would be a permanent problem not remedied by simply re-torquing & ultimately prone to snapping off.
Sorry - don't mean to cause alarm but I think it's conceivable because of the additional load on each individual stud during cornering stresses w/o the additional support of the hub-centre ring.
I may be way paranoid but I'd be inclined to replace the studs but it looks like you already have that planned anyway.
 
I guess I'm enjoying a side benefit of the CT 12.4 brembo setup,more wheel choices.FWIW SOS sells some wheels that clear the AP 13 in brakes,talk to Chris about the Stoptechs.
 
docjohn said:
I guess I'm enjoying a side benefit of the CT 12.4 brembo setup,more wheel choices.FWIW SOS sells some wheels that clear the AP 13 in brakes,talk to Chris about the Stoptechs.

Yep, I should have asked you what kind of brakes you were running on your NSX before jumping on the SSR's.

I had assumed that you were running either the Lotus or Indy calipers on your Brembo's :(.

I was originally planning to run with an AP kit on my NSX way back last year, and I purchased a set of Prodrive GC-07's from Chris for that explicit purpose. So I have a set of street wheels that will work with the Stoptech's with no problems.

But I am looking for a track setup. As such I am not looking forward to spending a lot of $$s for the wheels.

I've had some SSR Integrals in the past, and I really did not like the wheels because they bent easily.

I really like the TE-37's because they can take a beating at the track without bending. Close to 40 track events on my current set of wheels and multiple sets of tires, and the wheels remain true. But the experience this weekend is making me think twice about running with spacers on the TE37's for the track.

So now I'm looking for a comparable lightweight wheel that has sufficient caliper clearance and does not have any bending issues and does not cost $2400.00 for the set.

Ken
 
Ken,

Not much cheaper, but a multitude of possibilities are the BBS magnesium center wheels. You can buy used centers and rim halves from Bob Woodman Tires, and create whatever offset you like, and whatever width you need. Used 17's will probably run around $400 a wheel or more, but will weigh less than anything similar.
 
supergreen125 said:
fyi-
i had to use a .062 spacer to clear the stoptech brakes with my 17x8 gtp +41
Huh? But you posted pictures and texts that there were no spacers and they cleared the Stoptech. That's where I got the info from. Why are there spacers now?
Steve
 
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2slow2speed said:
I've had some SSR Integrals in the past, and I really did not like the wheels because they bent easily.

I really like the TE-37's because they can take a beating at the track without bending. Close to 40 track events on my current set of wheels and multiple sets of tires, and the wheels remain true. But the experience this weekend is making me think twice about running with spacers on the TE37's for the track.

So now I'm looking for a comparable lightweight wheel that has sufficient caliper clearance and does not have any bending issues and does not cost $2400.00 for the set.

Ken

What kind of spacer were you running? If you are running those cheapo spacer from pepboys or similar, they'll expand/shring due to heat which would attribute to your problem.

As for lightweight wheel that does not bend, I don't think such wheel exist. Volks are certainly good and strong but they bend. Mine did...twice.. :(
 
ncdogdoc said:
Ken,

Not much cheaper, but a multitude of possibilities are the BBS magnesium center wheels. You can buy used centers and rim halves from Bob Woodman Tires, and create whatever offset you like, and whatever width you need. Used 17's will probably run around $400 a wheel or more, but will weigh less than anything similar.

Hi Gary,

Thanks for the tip :).

Ken
 
Steven Spanbauer said:
Anyone have these on there NSX 17-18 combo would love to see a pic.




Steven 91 Blk/Ivory

Steven,

FYI, the 17 x 7.5 with a 42mm offset will not clear the Stoptech kit even with a 7.5mm spacer. It will probably require a 10 mm spacer to clear.

Ken
 
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