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Just got a 96 have some questions

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Hello, I just got my first NSX its a 96 Black and Tan with 50k. Love it so far but the cold has prevented the full driving experience.

I do have a few questions:
I think my thermostat is shot. The car takes 10 min to warm up. I read the FAQ but it does not tell me if I can do it myself or how much it might cost for Acura to do it?

Clutch adjustment? My clutch seems to be at the very top of the pedal just before I release the clutch. At first I thought it was shot (maybe it is getting there) but it is not slipping so I think it might just need adjustment? Has anyone done this before?

Thanks

Roy
 
Roy,

Others will chime in about the thermostat, but my two cars have always taken a while to warm up. Not sure how long, but when waiting on hot air for cold tootsies or a chance for a v-tec run, it seems like forever:(

The clutch is normal for an NSX. You cannot really adjust the pickup point, only pedal position, and that is not easy (not very much of a range, and it is VERY sensitive).
 
It does not move from cold for about 10 min and then very slowly creeps up. It takes me 20min in stop and go to get to work and its not warm until I park the thing.

So the clutch is normal? Seems weird that its soo high on the pedal. I just sold my S2000 and it had an amazing clutch but the shift point was much lower on the pedal.
 
Try this before you go changing your thermostat. Warm the car up for 10-12 minutes with the climate control OFF.

Then leave and watch your temp needle. It should start going up and reach just below the halfway point in about 5 minutes of driving. Then go ahead and turn the heat on. I found if I turn my heat on too soon the temp needle drops back down. If you wait just a few minutes extra, it will behave normally. I think the NSX engine was engineered to not run hot at a track vs. warming up quickly on those sub zero mornings.

My clutch engages about 2/3 away from the floor. If your clutch isn't slipping, I would also assume that it's ok.
 
congrats man.. i have the same car.. 96 with black and tan mine is #006.. just slightly less mileage.. 35K ..

My temp gauge gets up pretty quickly (10 min) but I am in a warmer climate than you..

The clutch is normal.. I thought that my clutch was worn when I got the car but that's how it is.. You don't need to change it until it slips.. The clutch is not adjustable because it is hydraulic, my NSX tech tells me.

do you get shuttering when shifting into 1st?

don't compare the S2000 to this car.. different ballgame..

good luck..
 
What do you mean by shuttering? The car shifts very smoothly. I am getting used to the clutch now. Cant wait for warmer weather to really get to try this car to the max. How can I tell what number my car is?
 
RSinDC said:
What do you mean by shuttering? The car shifts very smoothly. I am getting used to the clutch now. Cant wait for warmer weather to really get to try this car to the max. How can I tell what number my car is?
Since the clutch engages far up the car tends to shake a bit when engaging.. This is only until you get used to it.. At least it happened to me and a few others.. look on the FAQ for shuttering.

Check the last digits of the VIN for the production #..

has it had the timing belt, etc done yet?
 
I don't think there is anything wrong with your thermostat. In 20 degree F weather, my X takes a lllloooooonnnnnngggggg. time to warm up.
 
I am not sure about its service history. It appears to be in very good shape. Drives very smoothly. I am going to go to Acura and see if they can pull the service history on the car. The VIN is JH4NA1186TT000289 so I guess its number 289 for 1996.

Any suggestions on how to check if the timing belt has been changed? I would guess it has not considering its 96 with 50k. I think I will wait until 75k?
 
Congrats on purchase. The temp thing is mostlikely normal. Hope to see you in DC Metro meets soemtimes :)
 
RSinDC said:
I am not sure about its service history. It appears to be in very good shape. Drives very smoothly. I am going to go to Acura and see if they can pull the service history on the car. The VIN is JH4NA1186TT000289 so I guess its number 289 for 1996.

Any suggestions on how to check if the timing belt has been changed? I would guess it has not considering its 96 with 50k. I think I will wait until 75k?

Find out where the car was purchased and call some of the local dealers and see if they have info on it.. The timing belt is extremely important that it should be changed not because of mileage but because of time.. Honda suggests that it be changed by 60K miles or 8 years.. Our cars are already 8 years old. The rubber will start to degrade.. If they did the timing belt, they probably changed the water pump and used the new water pump cover which has a little drain on it.. The old one didn't.. An NSX tech should be able to tell you if he thinks it had it done or not..

Do a search for shops in your area and you should be able to find a good NSX tech locally.. There are quite a few NSXs in your area.

You have #289 for 96..


I just got my car in Oct last year so I know the drill.. email me if you have any questions.. [email protected]

good luck
 
oh yeah, don't forget the valve adjustment...

Makes a huge difference..

When I got my car back after the timing belt and valve adjustment.. It felt amazing.. much better than before.
 
RSinDC said:
AK - Do you have a good NSX tech in the DC VA area?

Thanks

I have no one that I can particularly recommend. Pohanka did my timing belt, header install, oil change etc and nothing has broken since, so I am assuming they did the job right. Their service people could use some training though. You should ask on the southeast forum.
 
Updating and responding to an older post for the benefit of others.

Best NSX tech in DC/VA area is Charlie at the Car Doctor in Falls Church, Virginia. That is my review on the Google page. If you have a problem with your NSX, go see Charlie. You won't be disappointed...
 
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Nice to hear that others have experienced long warm up time. Here in MN, my NSX seemed to take forever to warm up @ 25-30 degree temps. I clocked it anywhere from 12-15 minutes. I was actually concerned that the thermostat had failed, but I guess it hasn't.

This does bring up an interesting question. I plan to have all the coolant hoses in my 91 NSX replaced once water returns to a liquid phase in MN and was curious if the thermostat should be replaced at that time as well?
 
My clutch seems to be at the very top of the pedal just before I release the clutch.

Congrats on acquiring the best car ever produced on this planet.

A properly adjusted clutch pedal's engagement/disengagement point is show by letter D in the pic below. As the clutch wears this point gets further from the floor. The clutch will continue to work fine until it fails. They tend to fail catastrophically instead of "slipping a little at first". If it's any consolation the origiginal clutch in my '93 lasted about 130K miles. The second about 70K miles. I have almost 30K on my third (always OEM) clutch.

clutch_pedal.jpg
 
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Nice to hear that others have experienced long warm up time. Here in MN, my NSX seemed to take forever to warm up @ 25-30 degree temps. I clocked it anywhere from 12-15 minutes. I was actually concerned that the thermostat had failed, but I guess it hasn't.

This does bring up an interesting question. I plan to have all the coolant hoses in my 91 NSX replaced once water returns to a liquid phase in MN and was curious if the thermostat should be replaced at that time as well?

I have been experiencing long warm-up times, beginning very recently. Based on my research on prime, I really don't think long warm-up times should be the norm. In my car under normal warm-up, the heater used to begin providing warmth after about 2-3 minutes, with full heat after driving 5 minutes, this after a cold start with no idling, ie start and go. Recently, warm-up has taken more like 12-15 minutes. Granted, it is cold and snowy here now, but I still think this is too long.

Yesterday, I added coolant (50/50 mix) to the overflow bottle under the rear glass. On the way to work, it took the same long period to warm up. But on the way home from work, it started warming at the usual point. If the coolant is very low, it will cause overheating, but if it is only low, then I think it causes the car to warm up more slowly. If you are experiencing slow warm-up, my recommendation would be to first add coolant to try and achieve the proper level. Only after ascertaining that there is sufficient coolant should you consider the thermostat as the possible culprit.

If after you are satisfied that the coolant level is correct, then I think thermostat failure becomes likely. Reportedly the NSX has a rubber gasket that frequently swells and breaks, causing the thermostat to become blocked open, causing slow warm-up. Aftermarket thermostats eliminate the rubber gasket and work just fine.

The good news is that the thermostat is very inexpensive. Pep Boys sells a Stant (very reputable brand) 180 degree (oem temp) thermostat for the NSX for less than $17 (I called them yesterday to see if they had any in stock; they did). Even the oem Honda thermostat isn't terribly expensive. If you are an intrepid do-it-yourselfer, you could probably replace the thermostat for less than $20 (thermostat and a little coolant). I think you could get thermostat replacement done at the dealer for less than $250.

If I were having the coolant hoses replaced, I absolutely would have them to go ahead and do the thermostat.
 
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