Zaino where do you find it

[druby]

I have seen the posts about Zaino, but I didn't find anything like that at the automotive parts store. Where do you find it and how is it applied?

Thanks,

 

[Acura NsX Pilot]

You can only buy it from them direct.....they dont sell there product thru any distributor's.

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

 

[druby]

Thanks I found it. bY the way how easy is it to use and how long does it take to put it on. From reading the web site it sounds like you could take all day putting on different compunds waiting for them to dry and then putting another compound. If you have already used it how much time did it take and how hard was it to put on and take off?

 

[pt91]

I recommend you use the ZFX to shorten the dry time. You mix a few drops with the Z2 or Z5. I have only used my Z5. I firmly believe that 2 coats is plenty and any more is a waste of time.
After several months of Zaino, I hv decided to switch to another synth. I will get my Wolfgang today and top it with Souveran wax.
I will continue to use the QD spray and car wash. I am addicted to the smell and they work so well.
The trick to any program is prep work first. Wash, clay, polish then apply Z or whatever.
I like the Zaino on my light granite SUV better than the black NSX, so I can use it there.
Much more info can be found here:
http://www.autopia.org

 

[EIFFEL]

The whole procedure is major PITA, you must have sufficient time to do it right, i got z2,z5,zfx, and I just don't have the time to do it, takes all day, just find a good detailer and let him/her do their magic,

 

[svalleynsx]

The whole procedure is major PITA, you must have sufficient time to do it right, i got z2,z5,zfx, and I just don't have the time to do it, takes all day, just find a good detailer and let him/her do their magic,

I've never used the ZFX accelerator cure and it only took me 2 days, and that was only part time. The 1st day I did the Dawn wash and claybar w/Z6, then Dawn wash again, then a dry wipedown with microfiber. Let the car dry completely overnight. Total est. time 4-5 hrs.

2nd day just apply a thin coat Z1 Polish Lock, let dry to a haze(30-45 mins.)then apply a thin coat of Z2 Polish(another 45 mins.) then wipe off in a side-to-side motion with a clean microfiber towel turning frequently.

Considering the results and the reward afterwards, it's not that much work at all IMO.

 

[Jimbo]

You can do a search on Zaino and get a lot of good info too.

For me, it's quick and easy. That's one of the reason I really like it.

After the initial prep work (which you need to do with any product), it's an easy on-off process that leaves no residue.

-Jim

 

[Doc C]

Zaino is excellent. With the ZFX, it soesn't take that long at all. As said before, the claybar takes a little bit, but you should do that with anything you do. It is an amazing product. The swirl remover works great on dark cars. 2 or three coats go on easy and make your car shine like it never has. Give it a try. I would recommend springing for 4 or 5 of those applicator pads they sell. They make application easy. DON'T use microfiber on your paint either. It is polyester and can scratch or swirl paint. Only 100% cotton made in the USA white towels for removing wax after it's set. Good luck.

 

[pt91]

While it is true that poly can scratch, it doesn't apply to quality microfiber towels (which are usually a polyester and polyamide blend).

A very detailed article on this subject can be found at:

http://www.bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=44

I have converted most of my detailing towels for drying and applications to good microfiber products.

Cotton poly towels are the worst and WILL leave swirls in your finish. You can test your towels for 100% cotton by burning the lint left in your dryer lint trap. If it melts, it isn't cotton.
100% cotton towels with poly trim and/or binding should not be used.

I have found a few cheap microfibers towels that I would not use on my paint, but they were the WalMart level brands. These have been reduced to cleaning the garage, not the car.

Quality microfiber products from PakShak, Autogeek.net, etc. are worth the extra money. Always wash microfiber together. Use no fabric softners and air or low temp dry.

I have invested in a porter cable random orbit 7424 polisher and have removed all the swirls left from years of good intention on my black paint.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[dnicho05]

... DON'T use microfiber on your paint either. It is polyester and can scratch or swirl paint...

UHHH NO... Its a very special type of polyester, and true microfiber towels are superior in every way to cotton terrycloth. Terrycloth will actually scratch your paint before a microfiber towel will every time. The only time you would ever get scratches from a "microfiber" towel would be if you bought a cheap towel (typically made in china) that claimed to be microfiber but was really just a cheap fake.

I personally have used REAL microfiber towels for about 6 months now, and I will never use terry on my any of my vehicles ever again. I use Zaino (Just the simple Z1,Z2,Z6 setup), I remove it with microfiber towels, and the results are perfect every time.

Don't just take my word for it, get educated here:
http://www.bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=44

then pick some up here:
http://www.detailersparadise.com/_S...egory.asp?DeptID=98622003358392-1225212614089

[edit] Opps sorry pt91, I reacted too quick and didn't see that you already posted that bettercarcare.com article in your response above. [/edit]

 

[Doc C]

Hey, we were talking about Zaino and Mr. Zaino himself said no microfiber towels. Just going off of what he said that's all. He said no microfiber towels.... period. Said only to use 100% cotton made in USA towels. Period. Since he makes the product, I thought he might have the best insight on how to apply it and remove it. I stand corrected.

 

[dnicho05]

Hey, we were talking about Zaino and Mr. Zaino himself said no microfiber towels. Just going off of what he said that's all. He said no microfiber towels.... period. Said only to use 100% cotton made in USA towels. Period. Since he makes the product, I thought he might have the best insight on how to apply it and remove it. I stand corrected.

OK please read this through all the way before you get mad at me again.

On Sal Zaino's web page:
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=TOWELS&Store_Code=Z

He simply states "I prefer 100% Cotton Towels..." Not period, end of story, just that he prefers them.

Nowhere on any of his web pages does it state not to use Microfiber towels with his products. All he was trying to get across was that cheap cotton/poly blend towels will cause scratches.

You, in your post, put down microfiber towels, not Sal Zaino (as far as I could find). That was all we (PT91 and myself) were trying to correct. Quality microfiber towels like the ones detailersparadise.com sells are superior to any cotton towel. I've done the thumb rub tests on my Cobalt Purple Durango. Cotton leaves fine scratches in the paint every time, the microfiber towels don't (even when using about 10 times the pressure as I did with the 100% cotton $25 Fieldcrest towel).

You put down an excellent product based on inaccurate information, and without ever trying it youself. We just wanted to set the record straight so that someone who reads this thread would not be deterred from trying out a fairly new and excellent product.

I honestly hope that you'll give microfiber towels a try one day, I know you will be amazed at how well they work.

 

[pt91]

Agreed.
You can (and should) test all towels on a CD to check for abrasion.
No need to test out on your car.
Details of this test can be found by searching on autopia.org.

 

[Doc C]

I didn't say that it said that on the website. I said that Mr. Zaino told me that he wouldn't use microfiber towels because they are polyester and that can scratch your paint. This was almost two years ago, and he may have changed his views. Certainly, it seems there are some very good microfiber towels out there.
I don't understand dnicho05, why you think I was mad. I was just saying what Mr. Zaino had said on the phone to me and that I stood corrected. That's all. I thought your "Uhhhh NO" post was harsh, but didn't make me mad at all. Thanks for the info pt91, I appreciate it very much.
So, which do you guys use, the dual pile, or the waffle weave type towels??

 

[pt91]

I use waffle weave to dry. PakShak are very good and I have one of the bigger, more expensive Griots drying towels. Both work well. The griots is large enough to dry the car easily.
I just bought a Metro Blaster electric air blower (that is marketed for motorcylces) to blow off most of the water. I like it because it gets all of the water out of the nooks that hold wter then drip for ever (tail lights, etc.).
I have several brands of smaller towels for cleaning, removing wax or polishes.
I generall use the thick piles for removing compounds/polishes and the medium for finishes (waxes or sealants).
I believe that the very fine nap towels are good for windows, but I haven't done that yet.
I try to organize my towels by color/function. This seems anal but I would hate to use my abrasive removing towel for Quick Detailing. My Quick detailing towels are the Ultra fine yellow towels that PakShak sells. He has a special I posted a while back.
Those yellow towels are the softest, finest I hv seen.
I will let you guys know how my Zaino to Wolfgang conversion goes. I might get to it this weekend.