Next Generation NSX - Some Q's...

[jmsc]

I just sold my 1999 996 after owning it for 4 years. Great sports car to say the least. Looking for something newer and maybe different down the road 1-2 years. My choices are in no particular order:

Ferrari F420 Modena (rumored 4.2L)
Porsche 997 (rumored 8 cyl)
Baby Lambo (rumored V10)
NSX (rumored 8 cyl)

No Viper (just not for me) nor no Corvette (way too numerous in CT, looking for exclusivity).

Since this is THE NSX site, can someone answer a few questions or better yet what do we know about the next NSX?

1. Intro date?
2. Price?
3. Engine? 6 or 8 or 10 or 12 cyl?
4. HP?
5. Exterior changes from the 2002?
6. Interior changes planned?
7. What color is most popular on an NSX?
8. Is anyone else waiting on this next NSX?

TIA for your repsonses!

 

[nsxtasy]

All we've heard is rumors, many of which conflict with each other. Numbers such as for prices, horsepower, even number of cylinders are all over the ballpark. None of them appears to be credible. About the only thing that appears to be certain is that development work is being done on a new car to replace the current NSX in the Acura/Honda lineup a couple of years from now.

 

[Number9]

Why not consider the Saleen or GT40 as well? I'm going through a similar analysis and those are my leading contenders.

 

[Tom Larkins]

After owning 5 Acura's (non-nsx)one thing you can be certain of: I can't recall Acura ever letting out much info on a new car. Only once can I remember and that was with the TL sedan about 5 months before it came to the US. Your best source of info is right here on this web site. Someone is gonna get a peak at one on a test track or on the road or get a spy pic and sell it to a magazine. As far as the engine, Honda is since gone from F-1 in which the original engine was based upon. Someone else that has more knowlege than I can tell you what they are running in a racing series in Japan and you could do some investigating yourself. I would like to think that is where the new power plant will be coming from. I only hope that they put the new engine for R & D purposes in a racing series in the states like what BMW did with the GTR last year. Like yourself i'll wait as I just bought my first NSX and I love it. Go buy one, I don't think i'll ever buy anything else again...

 

[Ponyboy]

Nothing but rumors, my friend. From an electric assist motor to a detuned version Honda's F1 engine (talk about a aftermarket tuner's dream!). No one knows for sure unless they're in Honda's NSX development program and they're not talking.

I really like the V8 and V10 rumor. Especially with a sequential shift transmission. I don't care if it's aluminium or steel as long as it's light.

 

[Michigan NSX]

Originally posted by Number9:
Why not consider the Saleen...

Can anybody actually get the Saleen S7? From what I've heard they have only produced one show car and a bunch of race cars (for the American LeMans Series aka ALMS). The race cars are carrying a big weight penalty this year because they didn't meet the number of road cars to be manufactured. My brother works on the factory Corvette C5-R team for ALMS and said there are few if any road cars available (ie. ever built).


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'91 Black/Black

 

[wctsao]

Saleen S7s are now available at Saleen dealers. MSRP: $395,000. The article just came up recently (< 1 week) about this in AutoWeek.


[This message has been edited by wctsao (edited 17 May 2002).]

 

[ilya]

The Saleen is different than the C5R. The C5R is a race car only, looks like a C5, but is very much a race car. The SaleenS7R is the race car that competes in Le Mans against the C5R and the like.
The standard SaleenS7 is available and street legal. How available and the possibility of getting your hands on one... I do not know.

 

[Tom Larkins]

"Electric Assist" For you guys that know more about these than I do. Would that type of motor be a tuners dream? Are you talking about an assist that is @ low rpm only until the conventional motor takes over ? Please explain...

 

[MAJOR STONER]

Here are the specs on the new Pilot, there is no reason why Honda can't build us a great new car for only $69,666.13.

Torrance, Calif. 05/17/2002 -- Honda's all-new sport utility vehicle, Pilot, will go on-sale June 3 as a 2003 model with prices beginning at $26,900 for LX models, and $29,270 for EX models, American Honda Motor Co., Inc., announced today.
Standard equipment on LX models include a 240-horsepower, VTEC V-6 engine and five-speed automatic transmission; Honda's advanced VTM-4 (Variable Torque Management 4WD) four-wheel drive system; air-conditioning; cruise control, AM/FM stereo with CD player, power windows, door locks and mirrors, and dual front and side airbags.

EX models will carry a suggested retail price of $29,270 and add alloy wheels; automatic climate control; 8-way power driver's seat with adjustable lumbar support; high-powered stereo with cassette player, six-disc CD changer and steering-wheel mounted stereo controls; roof rails; and second row fold-down kid's activity tray. EX models with leather interior trim will be priced at $30,520 and may also be equipped with a DVD Entertainment System at $32,020; or Honda's satellite-linked DVD Navigation System for $32,520.

 

[MAJOR STONER]

http://www.motortrend.com/future/2003.html

 

[Ponyboy]

The electric assist idea most recently comes across as the Honda Dualnote. Similar to the Honda Insight. The "tuner's dream" mention came from the Honda V10 engine in F1. The idea was that Honda would detune the engine to make it reliable. The HP and torque estimates were 550hp and 500 torque.

 

[Jimbo]

"... there is no reason why Honda can't build us a great new car for only $69,666.13...."

I agree. I think that's where the price should be for the NSX.

It has to compete with the Porsche.

Of course, Honda might not care to produce 3000 units per year. They might be content to lose money on every car they sell and to view the NSX as an advertising expense.

-Jim

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1992 NSX Red/Blk 5 spd #0330
1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
Looking for 76-79 Honda Accords

 

[rcarlos]

The Porsche costs 65k but the options can cost another 25k.

 

[Barn Man]

Just like everyone else has dictated, there have been nothing but rumors. I heard again today that the new one may be all wheel drive. The rear wheels being electric powered, (S#!T), and the fronts being driven by an engine. I also heard #'s of 44 mpg. I hope this is one rumor that doesn't come true. As neat as the technology is, it doesn't belong in a sports car with the NSX's background. Do it with a gas motor only, or get ready to be verbaly beaten!
Honda / Acura will never be able to shake the crap they'll get from doing a hybrid sprts car. Do it with another car, but PLEASE not the NSX!
Barn Man....

 

[Zuerst]

Originally posted by Barn Man:
Just like everyone else has dictated, there have been nothing but rumors. I heard again today that the new one may be all wheel drive. The rear wheels being electric powered, (S#!T), and the fronts being driven by an engine. I also heard #'s of 44 mpg. I hope this is one rumor that doesn't come true. As neat as the technology is, it doesn't belong in a sports car with the NSX's background. Do it with a gas motor only, or get ready to be verbaly beaten!
Honda / Acura will never be able to shake the crap they'll get from doing a hybrid sprts car. Do it with another car, but PLEASE not the NSX!
Barn Man....

Hmmm... if Honda can build a hybrid sports car that can surpass most if not all the sports car avaliable why would the critics matter? Why would the critic even criticize? What would they say? "A hybrid engine doesn't shouldn't be related to a sports car even though the hybrid engine out preforms the gas engine???

 

[Tom Larkins]

Zuerst- No i suppose it wouldn't matter if the new car beats everything else in its class with a hybrid motor, however the response in the market place if the car fails to deliver on its name history of one of the least maintenance intensive sports cars on the road and a great racing history via F-1. I don't know much about electric assist, but I just bought my first NSX because I wanted to see how good a car it really is before the 2nd generation car comes out. I can tell you right now that if it does come with some funky power plant it would be harder for me to buy it, if it hasn't been developed on a race track, and to my knowledge no one in any sanctioning body is allowing any type of engine like this.

 

[Jimbo]

The Honda DualNote (aka DNX) is the hybrid V6 that's the basis for all these weird rumors.
http://world.honda.com/Tokyo2001/auto/DUALNOTE/

It's a 4 passenger, 4 door sedan and it's obviously not a NSX replacement.

-Jim

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1992 NSX Red/Blk 5 spd #0330
1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
Looking for 76-79 Honda Accords

 

[nsxtasy]

As I mentioned in another thread, I hope that with the next NSX, Honda reclaims the moniker Motor Trend applied upon the NSX's introduction in 1991: "the best sports car the world has ever known, any time, any place, any price".

I don't care how they do it. I don't care if it has more horsepower than anything else on the road or not; the 1991 NSX didn't. I don't care if it has more cylinders than anything else on the road or not; the 1991 NSX didn't. I don't care if they use innovative technology or not; for all I care, they can fuel it with horse manure, as long as it is so very full of balance, and performance, and overall goodness, that it is recognized for its greatness. THAT'S what I care about.

And all of this is why I don't really care about the specifics, all those details that we don't know about now. In 1990, if we were told that Honda were about to introduce a sports car that has a V-6 instead of a V-8, and had fewer horsepower than the Ferrari Testarossa or the Corvette ZR-1, we probably would have all been yawning or ticked off that Honda was not really coming up with a competitive model. Of course, once it was introduced, we all found out otherwise. So to me, the details don't matter; the car itself is more than just the sum of those individual details. Go get 'em, Honda! Do it again!

 

[MAJOR STONER]

D-NX Concept Car specs: 3500 cc / 213.6 cu in, 298.3 kw / 400.0 bhp @ Not Available rpm, 114.29 bhp per litre...

 

[NSXLNT]

I have to agree with Ken's statement above. The NSX is all about balance, and driving a well made balanced car that does everything well. I especially feel this way this morning after getting together last night with a couple of other NSXers. We took a drive to look in the window of a new Ferrarri dealership. After drooling for a time and lusting after the numerous wonderfully beautiful examples of Italian Engineering, we got back in our Xs and drove. And driving is what this car is all about.I just kept thinking to myself, man I love this car.After saying goodbye to my companions, I just kept driving, and smiling, late into the early morning hours, alone on back road two lane twisties. Still smiling.