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FYI....I raced a Porsche "Turbo S" tonight

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I just figured that I'd let all the NSX followers here know that I had a quick run against a Porsche Turbo S tonight...

I was minding my own business doing about 100+ and I noticed that I was coming up on a Porsche. He quickly got over to an open lane and floored it. I was going too fast for him to catch up immediately. I hit a high speed clover-leaf turn, but backed off since I just put my OE tires on and he easily out cornered me there. As we exited the turn...I floored 3rd and pulled him pretty hard up to 120+. Unless of course, he couldn't drive the thing in a straight line. Then we ran out of room (traffic). I slowed down to take the next exit and as he passed, I could see his "turbo S" badge.

As far as this guy knows....NSX's are faster than his turbo on the highway...and I'm sure he's pissed about it!

by the way, he doesn't know that I have the TT kit on my car.
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take care guys.

[This message has been edited by X-TNSIV (edited 08 August 2002).]
 
Was the Porsche a boxster or a 911? If it was a 911 than the year can make quite a difference as to what type of performance the car has in a straight line. I own a '96 911TT and in '97 they had a 911 Turbo S which had 424 horsepower, 24 more than the non S version. The '94 911's also had a Turbo S version which I believe had about 380 horsepower. If it was one of the later 911's I believe you wouldn't of pulled away from it with a Twin Turbo NSX unless he wasn't trying, couldn't drive or felt it wasn't safe to race in a public place. It has been my experience that the people who pay the premium for the "S" cars are great drivers.

"KILL" stories are frowned upon here and don't really prove anything anyway. It sounds like your little exercise was a little dangerous, but I wasn't there.

Good Luck!
 
Originally posted by Carguy!:
Was the Porsche a boxster or a 911?

Almost certainly a 911. It couldn't have been a Boxster unless the "Turbo S" badge wasn't on the car when it left the factory.
 
The Turbo is fast but not unbeatable. I can stay on a 996tt's bumper all day long with a 6lb SC,BTDT,of course it was on the track, He may have been scared to drive it as well.:^) But his story is not unbelievable a all. Now a 94 Turbo S I would leave alone.
The were underestimated in the HP Dept.
Corvette Z06,996TT,993TT all are well within
a NSX's range with a little forced induction.
Trust me I know, Actually the Blown NSX is
in their range. I've got to get out of the
Porsche Mentality, If I knew how to post pics
I would show you how I know.
Len3.8(Hint No.1)

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[This message has been edited by len3.8 (edited 08 August 2002).]
 
A "Stock" NSX would smoke a boxster S, so it had to be a 911. Probably the 424 HP version. I would think a TT NSX should be able to run with it without a lot of trouble. According to supercars.net, the 1996 911 Turbo weighs in at 3490 lbs. I don't know about the S, but I could certainly see a TT NSX that weighs 500 lbs less being able to pull from it.


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1993 White NSX, 70K miles and running STRONG!
 
I guess so too,
It is probably the 911 that you beat. FYI, the turbo S is the second fastest production car in the world (the first is Mc. F1) and limited production. It is unlikey that a NSX (even with TT) able to beat a Turbo S.
JACK
 
Sorry...but it really wasn't meant to be a "kill story". I was just excited and felt like posting. Next time, I will refrain...

I know my porsche's WELL. It was a 993 Porsche Turbo S. NOT a boxster. It was black with the turbo wing and everything. Unless he went to the dealer with a "Turbo S" VIN #, there is no way he could get the additional "S" badge. A boxster would not be able to pull nearly as hard as this 911 did.
 
A stock NSX accelerates twice as fast as a stock 993, over 100 mph.
 
I love all these stories!!! I was about to say- are you sure you were as fast until I read about the TT kit =)

I get into these sometimes, but dont post them up....its cool to hear about it..
 
Originally posted by jackmac:
I guess so too,
It is probably the 911 that you beat. FYI, the turbo S is the second fastest production car in the world (the first is Mc. F1) and limited production. It is unlikey that a NSX (even with TT) able to beat a Turbo S.
JACK


Jack, what year Turbo S are you referring to or doesn't it matter?
 
I think it is time to vote on whether or not we want "Kill stories".. I enjoy reading them, as do many other people on this site. They are always done tastefully and not the kind of garbage you would read on a supra forum or club Si.

I think we should make a new area and name it something elegant.

Any supporters?

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1993 White NSX, 70K miles and running STRONG!
 
Originally posted by NetViper:
I think it is time to vote on whether or not we want "Kill stories".. I enjoy reading them, as do many other people on this site. They are always done tastefully and not the kind of garbage you would read on a supra forum or club Si.

I think we should make a new area and name it something elegant.

Any supporters?



I agree...a new section. I enjoy reading them when they are not done in a juvenile fashion. We would need a moderator to watch it, of course.
 
I also had a similar experience,
Originally posted about a week ago:

"Just put on the SOS HID system and was giving it a try, when they lit up the word "TURBO" on a beautiful blue 2002 Porsche that was in front of me stopped at a red light. The illumination that these lights generate are great by the way. As the Porsche is in front of me, and I see him looking in his rear view mirror, he jumps the light and we're off. By the time we hit triple digits, I can't see the "TURBO" emblem anymore. You can guess where it was.
This is not a "kill story," as I can assure you that we are both alive and well.

It turns out this guy owns a 360 Modena, S2000, and the Porsche Turbo, and spends a bit of time on the race track. He said he knows quite a few NSX owners, and that the NSX was a great track car... better than his Porsche. Great guy this B.M. We exchanged business cards and he was off.

All I can say is that I was pleasantly surprised with these HID lights. Oh yeah, and a special thanks to Mark Basch and his BBSC."

I do so enjoy these "enthusiast" stories. "Kill Stories," I do not.
 
I forgot to add the second post under "Do HID's make your car faster":

I have a '91 NSX/43K mi., BBSC, headers, & exhaust. Just put the new BBSC program in Monday...oh yeah! and those SOS HID's about an hour before!
This is not a "Kill Story".......but at the light he was the car in front of me, when it turned green, he got 2-car lengths by 30 mph, by 100+ we were side by side...and I was gaining more ground. By that time he let up on the gas as did I. This guy was a true sportsman, and not one of those euro-nazi-fly-by types. We pulled over at a gas station and spoke for 10-15 min,(it was close to midnight).

I was very impressed with my car, and this guy apparently was no slouch of a driver, like me.

Thanks again to MB for the BBSC, or was it the HID's.

Just thought I'd share"
 
I have no problem with Kill Stories being posted occasionally. If I am not interested I just don't read it. However, I would vote for a giant NO on having a separate forum for it.
 
Maybe we should have a separate forum for stories of other cars "killed" by NSX drivers... and put it on the Supra board.
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[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 08 August 2002).]
 
Originally posted by X-TNSIV:
I know my porsche's WELL. It was a 993 Porsche Turbo S. NOT a boxster. It was black with the turbo wing and everything. Unless he went to the dealer with a "Turbo S" VIN #, there is no way he could get the additional "S" badge. A boxster would not be able to pull nearly as hard as this 911 did.

The 993 Turbo S had many other changes to the car other than the "S" after the turbo. Completely different rear wing, different air dam and many other not so easy to see changes. They also only made this car in '97 here in the U.S. I do not doubt that a properly tuned NSX twin turbo could keep up with one, but I have a hard time believing it would pull on it hard. I have the 9PSI comptech on my '00 NSX and have spent extensive time on the dyno to get it putting out as much rear wheel horsepower as possible and currently I think it is close to as fast as my 993TT. As far as the car weighing in at 3490 pounds, get real I have had mine on the scales and it was 3224 with half a tank of gas. My NSX-T weighed in at 3117 with a full tank of gas so the difference in weight isn't huge even compared to a hard top.

Major Stoner,
Your comment about a stock NSX pulling twice as fast as a stock 993 is a little hard to believe. Where did you see a statistic like that?
 
Originally posted by Carguy!:
I have the 9PSI comptech on my '00 NSX and have spent extensive time on the dyno to get it putting out as much rear wheel horsepower.....

Carguy, I have a CT 9psi on my '99 as well. What are your dyno ##'s?
 
Originally posted by Carguy!:
The 993 Turbo S had many other changes to the car other than the "S" after the turbo. Completely different rear wing, different air dam and many other not so easy to see changes. They also only made this car in '97 here in the U.S. I do not doubt that a properly tuned NSX twin turbo could keep up with one, but I have a hard time believing it would pull on it hard.

I know the differences in the Turbo vs the Turbo S. I.E. Front valence, rear fender brake ducts, yellow calipers, rear single piece spoiler, carbon fiber interior, etc...

I was on the highway and the car was black and it was night time, so I didn't get a very good look at it (as if it was stopped).

My friend has spent roughly $40K on a Turbo S conversion on his older chasis 911, so I'm aware of the differences very well.

as I stated earlier, maybe the driver wasn't completely floored, but I know for sure that my car is fastest in 3rd gear.

in addition, the 993 turbos may be the second fastest production car 1/4 mile wise, but that has to do with all wheel drive launches. At 80 mph+ it has no added benefit for straight line acceleration.

I'm not trying to argue my case here...just trying to state the facts.

Allen
 
I know I sometimes mix up my tables and charts, even cross-fudge the facts from two articles, but I did read that.
 
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