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Just went to the dealer....

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And man, they quoted me $1150 just to replace the timing belt, and some (other) belts. If I wanted the water pump it was going to be $1400. This sounds high to me, expecially after looking at the FAQ's prices.

They told me $780 last week, and when i called today to schedule it, now its $1150.

I have no choice now, the car has 90.8k and its got to be done.
I guess there is no real way of telling if the TB has been replaced before is there??? I don't think it has, so I was just playing it safe. (the last owner didn't know, but he said he thought it needed one)

[This message has been edited by NSXXX (edited 09 September 2002).]
 
NSXXX,

Some places are just steeper then others. I really think you should do the water pump at 90K though, regardless of the price. You will pay it all again (labor) if it goes bad later.

They obviously are charging you list for the pump, probably a little less then $200, then they are getting the labor the flush and bleed the cooling system, so add $250.

A assume this is a reputable dealer?? Do you know they do good work?? If so, bite the bullet, and you will sleep better and the car will not need a service for a long time.

BTW, is this JUST the T/B and W/P or is this a true FULL 90K service?? With the 90K service you get a valve adjustment and more parts replaced (can't remember it all off the top of my head.)

The only consulation here is you won't have to go in there for a long time.

HTH,
LarryB
 
Originally posted by NSXXX:
I guess there is no real way of telling if the TB has been replaced before is there???

[This message has been edited by NSXXX (edited 09 September 2002).]

I know that recent timing belt changes require a different kind of water pump so in turn needed a new timing belt cover. If it has the new cover (not any different except for another hole) then it was most likely done. You can also check the bolts, if they were removed then chances are...

dont take my word for it though. just get it done. its a lot more CHEAPER in the long run.
 
Originally posted by Larry Bastanza:
BTW, is this JUST the T/B and W/P or is this a true FULL 90K service?? With the 90K service you get a valve adjustment and more parts replaced (can't remember it all off the top of my head.)

Brake fluid, transmission fluid, engine oil and oil filter, air filter.

If it's just the TB/WP, it's slightly high, but not ridiculously so; just do it. If it's the full 90K, it's a bargain.
 
I recommend that you purchase the parts at the parts department and then get a quote for the labor only. Be sure to buy the parts at the same dealership so they carry the Honda warranty.

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Originally posted by NoClgDeg:
I recommend that you purchase the parts at the parts department and then get a quote for the labor only. Be sure to buy the parts at the same dealership so they carry the Honda warranty.

This is sort of good advice, but not the way I would go about it.

First of all, keep in mind that most dealerships don't like to (and may refuse to) do service work on cars where parts were purchased elsewhere. I realize that that is not what you're suggesting.

I agree that you can negotiate prices on the parts with the parts department (and it's actually a good idea) - be nice to them, get friendly, mention in a very casual way that you know you can get good discounts by having parts shipped to you from dealers who specialize in that, and ask them if they can do anything for you. The only difference from your suggestion is that (a) I would feel free to mention to the parts folks that you might/will have the work done there, and (b) let it get written up as part of your service bill, rather than treating it as a separate transaction. The service department should still honor any pricing reductions that you've agreed on with the parts department, if you mention it to them.
 
Originally posted by khuezee:
I know that recent timing belt changes require a different kind of water pump so in turn needed a new timing belt cover. If it has the new cover (not any different except for another hole)

Anyone have a picture of where the extra hole in the cover is?

BTW, I don't think the timing belt changes required a different water pump. Just that most people change the water pump at the same time, since the majority of the cost in replacement of either is labor.
 
khuezee,

Good point, just keep in mind that folks do change the belt and NOT the water pump. Not what I would do but it happens.

Ken,

Thanks for the parts list
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Sketch,

You are correct in that you do not need to change the water pump so it will "fit" the new timing belt. But, it is recommended you do both, espacially at 90K actual miles. The fact is it is almost impossible to get an "old style" replacement water pump.

Accept of course the recent one sold on e-bay!!

I do have a picture at home of both covers side by side. I will try to remember it tomorrow.

HTH,
LarryB
 
Just to clarify about changing the water pump... here's my understanding.

A water pump doesn't last forever, but there's no fixed change interval specified. It ought to last 90K miles or 6 years easy enough, but it might not last twice that long.

Since (as noted above) the labor involved in changing the water pump is almost all duplicated in changing the timing belt, and that labor is a much greater cost than the water pump itself, it makes sense to install a new water pump as long as you're in there for the timing belt anyway. If you don't, and the water pump fails, you would need to pay for that labor all over again.

Hope that makes sense.
 
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