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hoarycripple

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My passenger side door recently got keyed. Pretty badly too. You can see the aluminum underneath. I got an estimate from a local body shop of around $1178 to repaint the door, and the front and rear panels. Now, this door also has a ding in it that the body shop owner said he would pull out during the painting process. I was wondering, would it be easier/better to get a new door panel and have that painted to match the car? Or should I get the door, front and rear panels repainted as the body shop owner says? By the way, this shop does all the body work for acura in my area...

Thanks for any info!
 
I'm very sorry to hear about the vandalism done to your car- you must feel terrible! Some body shops - very few - can match the paint without painting adjacent panels to "blend" the color. What they are doing when they "blend" is to just repaint most of the car of a different color.

Find a shop where they can match the paint of the car by just fixing the door. It's very difficult and shops like that are very hard to find but one of them near my town matched the Cherry Red Pearl on my ex 300ZX perfectly!! It never ceased to amazed me how it always matched the rest of the body, the color never faded, not even three years after the repaint. I had to show they guy who bought my car where it had been repainted and he still couldn't see it or believe it. Someone here on the forum showed me a beautiful match of a repainted fender and roof on a Spa Yellow NSX.
 
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Bastards! This kind of crap really pisses me off. If I ever saw any low-life scum intentionally vandalizing such a nice car I would beat them to a bloody pulp! Grrr...
 
Thanks for the kind words everyone. I felt the same way as PHOEN$X at first, but The anger quickly turned to dismay as I realized I'd never find out who did it. On the same note, there was an incident where I was parked at a library and I came outside to see that some girl had written her name and part of her phone number on the wing of the car in magic marker. I guess she figured that if she had posted her full number i would have busted her. Anyway, at least that stuff came off easily.
 
You neglected to state what color it was.
Also how old is your car?
The answer could make a make difference in the paint strategy and support the reason for a adjacent panel blend.
I don't feel replacing the door makes sense.
The price you quoted does not sound out of line but, many dealers don't use quality workmanship as the primary reason to do business with a particular shop.
Satisfied customers are the best referral.

Joe Lomoriello
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www.vincesautobodyworks.com

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Unless the scratch is dead center on the door, and only 2-3" in legnth on the horizontal, I'd tend to agree with the idea of blending the fender/quarters.
Keying a car is a pathetic act of cowardice.

Joe


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Originally posted by pbassjo:
Unless the scratch is dead center on the door, and only 2-3" in legnth on the horizontal, I'd tend to agree with the idea of blending the fender/quarters.
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Well, the scratch is about 24-26 inches on the door, about 4 inches up from the bottom of the door. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. I mean, the car was in pristine condition before this. I didn't drive the car for a while after that because I thought something else would happen to it. Luckily I got over that and started practicing heel and toe downshifting. Damn that's fun.
 
HoaryCripple, I am sorry to hear that happen to you. Thats is one of my fears of having an nsx in New Jersey, people here seem to hate versus appreciate. I know it can happen anywhere, but what can owners do right? Just enjoy your nsx and hope that people can respect that joy.(maybe if we all had that kid on the spoiler it would scare keyers away or ID them *see post "what u guys think about this spoiler?" for details )

Btw, where do u live in New Jersey? Maybe we can meet up one day.
 
Originally posted by kld12:
HoaryCripple, I am sorry to hear that happen to you. Thats is one of my fears of having an nsx in New Jersey, people here seem to hate versus appreciate. I know it can happen anywhere, but what can owners do right? Just enjoy your nsx and hope that people can respect that joy.(maybe if we all had that kid on the spoiler it would scare keyers away or ID them *see post "what u guys think about this spoiler?" for details )

Btw, where do u live in New Jersey? Maybe we can meet up one day.
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I'm real close to you actually, North Brunswick. It would be great to meet another nsx owner in the area. Email me at:

hoarycripple[at]crippl3[dot]net
 
Originally posted by PHOEN$X:
Hoary, you might want to try a scratch remover first before resorting to a body shop. I know it's a long shot, but anything's possible:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=cj949.5359 2%24Qn5.2771992%40twister.southeast.rr.com

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I too saw this product in Pep Boys, and I did try it. But the scratch really was too wide and deep for it to work. I next tried touch up paint, and that made it a little better...meaning that if you're not looking for the scratch, you likely won't see it. But. I know that it's there. And it really is bothering the #@%$ out of me. The body shop is the last resort. I'm pretty scared at the prospect of someone stripping all that paint though...
 
4" from the bottom? Doesn't sound like vandalism to me. Could be something else moving along the car did it.
I don't think the shop was going to strip the panel it's very labor intensive and you should want the least invasive repair to correct the problem.
If they are skilled it should be no big challenge to effect a beautiful repair.
Repairing a scratch is pretty basic stuff, even on a NSX.
Go back and get them to explain what they are going to do so you feel comfortable.
I also went over to the link about the fellow with the scratched Mustang.
NO scratch remover (abrasive-cleaner-compound)will repair a scratch that has been scraped to the bare metal. He probably had a light scratch in the clear coat or a rub
mark and mistook it for a metal deep dig.
His shop should have cleaned it for him and sent him on his way.
Joe

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I'd tend to agree with the idea of blending the fender/quarters.

Just a question: Isn't "blending adjacent panels" just a way to save time by not trying to match the original paint? The guy who matched my 300ZX Cherry Red Pearl fender, did it the first time around, he just knew what he was doing. I think you either have the talent/skill to do it, or you don't. If you don't, then you blend. I'm I completely off base here?
 
Originally posted by pbassjo:
4" from the bottom? Doesn't sound like vandalism to me. Could be something else moving along the car did it.
I don't think the shop was going to strip the panel it's very labor intensive and you should want the least invasive repair to correct the problem.
If they are skilled it should be no big challenge to effect a beautiful repair.
Repairing a scratch is pretty basic stuff, even on a NSX.
Go back and get them to explain what they are going to do so you feel comfortable.
I also went over to the link about the fellow with the scratched Mustang.
NO scratch remover (abrasive-cleaner-compound)will repair a scratch that has been scraped to the bare metal. He probably had a light scratch in the clear coat or a rub
mark and mistook it for a metal deep dig.
His shop should have cleaned it for him and sent him on his way.
Joe

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www.vincesautobodyworks.com
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I just looked at the car again, it's more like 6-7 inches from the bottom of door panel, not the side skirt. I definitely think it's vandalism, the way this scratch looks.

What other ways of repairing the scratch are there? I have an appointment on the 21st so please let me know so that I can question him! The guy told me that he would strip the door panel and repaint the entire thing. There's a dent on the door that he's fixing too, so he says that he'll need to remove the panel and fix it from the inside. Again, please let me know if he's going to butcher my car!
 
Just a question: Isn't "blending adjacent panels" just a way to save time by not trying to match the original paint?
The guy who matched my 300ZX Cherry Red Pearl fender, did it the first time around, he just knew what he was doing.
I think you either have the talent/skill to do it, or you don't."
If you don't, then you blend. I'm I completely off base here?

I don't want to debate.
To may way of thinking:
Repair strategy can vary from one circumstance to another.
Color perception varies from person to person.
There really are no absolutes it's not like a bolt size or torque spec.
This is just my opinion not the word of GOD.


I could be off base on my advice to this gentleman. I've been wrong before.
Not seeing his car and offering advice on a repair was foolish of me.
Help this man out and share with him your method of discerning a shop that can give him the kind of results that you achieved.




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Why repaint the whole door?
What if that person keyed your door again after you fixed it?

My S-Class was keyed from front fender all the way to the top of the trunk, and the top of the car 2 years ago in Fullerton, CA.
I had a suspicious feeling when I saw 4 teenagers at midnight, the night before, at the gated community parking lot, the next day my car was all scratched up. A month later another guy's Ford Mustang was all scratched up too, probably by the same people.

I just touched up my car and buffed using the orbital machine. Since people can see that someone already scratched the car, it may prevent other vandalism.


Since your car color is solid red, I think it is pretty for a professional bodyshop to touch it up, sand and buff it.



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