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A lot of the information about NSXPO 2003 has yet to be released. However, what with all the reports about the great times at NSXPO 2002 earlier this month, let's remember that we get to do it all again next year. It will be similar in some ways, different in others. But it's guaranteed to have lots of NSXs, lots of friendly NSX owners, new friends and old, and lots of fun.
And oh yes, a track event at Infineon Raceway (http://www.infineonraceway.com), formerly known as Sears Point. Here are some photos to whet your appetite:
http://www.infineonraceway.com/pages/images/viewseat/vc7_t1_t2_lrg.jpg
http://www.infineonraceway.com/pages/images/maps/generalfacility_map.jpg
Ca AGNSX
11-21-2002, 13:15
As soon as the date is announced I will mark my calender! I will bring my car this time http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
That doesn't look like a very attractive track site from the pic.
I hope the rest looks better.
Originally posted by Joel:
That doesn't look like a very attractive track site from the pic.
Sears P... I mean, Infineon Raceway, is widely regarded as one of the top half dozen tracks in the country in terms of fun and challenge, along with Mid-Ohio (home of NSXPO '98), Mazda Laguna Seca (home of NSXPO '99), Road Atlanta (home of NSXPO 2000), Road America (home of NSXPO 2001), and Watkins Glen (home of NSXPO 2004).
erobbins
11-21-2002, 14:49
Originally posted by Joel:
That doesn't look like a very attractive track site from the pic.
Come on.... it's a fricken racetrack not a golf course!
EDR
erobbins
11-21-2002, 14:57
Originally posted by nsxtasy:
...is widely regarded as one of the top half dozen tracks in the country...
What? No mention of Motorsport Ranch or TMS during NSXPO2002?
I'll admit - MSR isn't exactly Le Mans, and TMS (now that you've driven it) is boring as hell, but (regarding TMS):
Where else have you driven that can officially seat 204,861 people? Or that has 600 acres of parking (even though only 131 acres are paved)? Or that has 24 degree banked turns? :-)
EDR
Larry Bastanza
11-21-2002, 15:06
Ed,
Now, you see what happens when Ken does not bring his car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He forgot you guys even had a track event http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/biggrin.gif.
It was great!
Thanks,
LarryB
flaminio
11-21-2002, 17:20
Sweeeeeeet .... Sears Point, er, Inf-whatever, is only about an hour from my house.
I am *so* there...
-Bob
RacerX-21
11-21-2002, 18:08
Originally posted by flaminio:
Sweeeeeeet .... Sears Point, er, Inf-whatever, is only about an hour from my house.
I am *so* there...
-Bob
About a whole country away for me… and I’m so there.
NorCalwhite
11-21-2002, 20:12
They have done some major upgrades at the track, I belive the track itself has been resurfaced, a brand new drag strip and new seating around the track plus the Big grandstands on the front straight. I live about 30 min. from there. It looks really nice. I think the picture might be over a year old.
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Joseph Gavazza
99 White/blk NSX
92 Lexus LS400
01 VW GTI VR6
92 white 0650
11-21-2002, 21:26
"That doesn't look like a very attractive track site from the pic?"
Are you a highway design engineer with no track experience? I'm a transportation engineer/project manager who likes to say that the worst examaples of highway design are the best race tracks.
Ted Idlof
Originally posted by NorCalwhite:
a brand new drag strip
This could be interesting....
NSX FI shoot-out!
Good one Ted, and with those qualifications I guess you have the last word on this no? ..... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
And thanks Ken for starting the marketing hype, we were wondering when was the appropriate time to initiate our "strategic and tactictal marketing plan" ..... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/smile.gif
Now if we can only keep the expectations and benchmarks in check ....., but we have already taken care of the BBQ/meat menu ...... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/tongue.gif
That doesn't look like a very attractive track site from the pic.
I hope the rest looks better.
Not to lambast this guy any more but. . .I got pretty excited seeing pic. MSR was, by far, much uglier than what you see in that picture. I think there is one tree, which granted you don't want on a track but, man, was that an ugly area. It got hit by the ugly stick. Rather, I think that's where people go to get ugly sticks. Anyway, Sears Point, er Infineon, looks awesome. I like the big elevation change in the pic.
Looking forward to next year!
[This message has been edited by Ponyboy (edited 21 November 2002).]
tmeekins
11-21-2002, 22:14
This is how the track should look when you get there:
http://tmeekins.com/media/sp20020331-3a.MOV
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Tim Meekins
1997 Yellow NSX-T
http://tmeekins.com
We better have at least one night of BBQ,and don't hide the cobbler!
.
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 21 November 2002).]
erobbins
11-22-2002, 11:54
Originally posted by docjohn:
We better have at least one night of BBQ,and don't hide the cobbler!
What, the Tex-Mex and BBQ here in DFW wasn't enough for you?
EDR
91BLACKANDBONENSX
11-22-2002, 13:14
IDEA? Hope the release the dates soon as I plan on driving from Oregon to the meet then either before or after depending on the date heading to Phoenix to watch the Nascar race. Anyone else up to going with me?
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UrbanPilot
11-22-2002, 14:33
Drag Strip? I all know is FULL PULL, just need 7 others to join with one letter on each of us. Or should I have all rest of the letters on some hots girls?
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8k RPM in a recliner!
Originally posted by Hrant:
Good one Ted, and with those qualifications I guess you have the last word on this no? ..... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
Hrant, I think you got me confused with Number9.... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
I am not Ted... though he and I both have the same car combination (red NSX / white E36 M3) with the exception that both of his are supercharged and his NSX is Zanardi #9!!!
Originally posted by 8000RPM:
Hrant, I think you got me confused with Number9.... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
I am not Ted... though he and I both have the same car combination (red NSX / white E36 M3) with the exception that both of his are supercharged and his NSX is Zanardi #9!!!
Not really ......... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
You just beat me to the post to 92 White 0650 [Ted Idlof, a local] by 6 minutes ..... I must have been typing with my pinkies ....
Ted is our Club's Director of Dawn Patrol, or Road Pavement Carving, or ...... we are very generous and liberal with our titles .... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Tony Montoya
11-22-2002, 18:06
Originally posted by tmeekins:
This is how the track should look when you get there:
http://tmeekins.com/media/sp20020331-3a.MOV
Wow. Excellent.
Timeless
11-23-2002, 04:41
Originally posted by nsxtasy:
A lot of the information about NSXPO 2003 has yet to be released. However, what with all the reports about the great times at NSXPO 2002 earlier this month, let's remember that we get to do it all again next year. It will be similar in some ways, different in others. But it's guaranteed to have lots of NSXs, lots of friendly NSX owners, new friends and old, and lots of fun.
And oh yes, a track event at Infineon Raceway (http://www.infineonraceway.com), formerly known as Sears Point.
Ken - There's a few more NSX's darting around Honolulu. If any of you guy's & girl's (girl's make sure to meet with me for details) are interested in going to CA. for NSXPO '03, let's start making plans now. I, personally, will be doing my best to attend this AWESOME event! - - - Jerry (Pearl Harbor/Pearlridge area)>>>>>>Let's GO!!!
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"LIVE LIFE with a NSX"
[This message has been edited by Timeless (edited 23 November 2002).]
Sears Point *is* awesome. I was there over the weekend of Nov 2-3rd with the BMW CCA. It's a much more challenging track than ThunderHill. And you're right, there's a steep climb up to Turn 2 at which you blindly execute a 90 degree right turn. http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/smile.gif
-CiaoBoy
Originally posted by Ponyboy:
Not to lambast this guy any more but. . .I got pretty excited seeing pic. MSR was, by far, much uglier than what you see in that picture. I think there is one tree, which granted you don't want on a track but, man, was that an ugly area. It got hit by the ugly stick. Rather, I think that's where people go to get ugly sticks. Anyway, Sears Point, er Infineon, looks awesome. I like the big elevation change in the pic.
Hehe, funny. I also have the same car combination, but with different colors and soon-to-be different breathing methods. I've got a black NSX and a black E36 M3. Both are normally aspirated right now, but the NSX is soon to be BBSC'ed. http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/smile.gif
-CiaoBoy
Originally posted by 8000RPM:
Hrant, I think you got me confused with Number9.... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
I am not Ted... though he and I both have the same car combination (red NSX / white E36 M3) with the exception that both of his are supercharged and his NSX is Zanardi #9!!!
more unsolicited suggestions...
Invite Uehara-san (chief NSX designer) and some of the Japanese club members. I think they might be interested
Even better, ask Kurosawa, Kunimitsu and some of the JGTC pilots to drive us around the track. An alternative might be the Speed Channel WC or ALMS folks -- Mugen powers an LMP900 Panoz car, amongst others.
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Include a good-enough karaoke bar in the programme, and I think you can swing it http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Several Japanese NSX fans are also big fans of California wine (hint hint).
I think inviting more people(engineers, designers, race drivers) from Honda would be a good idea, even a great idea. It'd be great to see them do some sort of technical seminar. For instance, the engine teardown at NSXPO 2002 was great. Now, maybe we can get Andrew Armstice to do a technical session on how to extract more hp out of the NSX engine or get PD(or a JGTC driver, or a LeMans driver), to do a semi-driving clinic or have a Mr Uehara-san do a keynote presentation, etc. Honda participation would have to be unofficial I'm sure. But it's gotta be doable!
I agree. That's a great idea. It would be worth covering their enrollment/hotel fees as part of the invite.
-Jim
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1992 NSX Red/Blk 5 spd #0330
1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
1976 Honda Accord 5 spd, 3 door Blue/Blue
1977 Honda Accord - Custom - Under Construction
1986 Chevy Suburban
http://homepage.mac.com/jimanders/PhotoAlbum1.html
Funny how we're getting suggestions from people who haven't been attending NSXPO for things we've done in past years. (And would like to repeat, of course.)
Folks, all of these are great ideas and suggestions. Some have been explored already, while others may be new and worthwhile to pursue further.
But, and for the record, an organization to put an NSXPO does not happen through e-mail posts. There is a formal NSXPO Planning Committee which was put together last January - and may I remind you after several appeals and posts for voulnteers (on these forums may I add, and some arm twisting among friends as well http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif ..... I don't recognize the posts above with the volunteers I have on my lists .... am I missing something ...... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/confused.gif
We have an absolutely open door policy to whomever wants to help. If you have an interest in promoting an idea, or seeing a program happen, and also being responsible and accountable to follow through with deliverables, please forward them to me, or Alex Vizcarra, or Ken Sax. We will most assuredly evaluate in the scheme of things .....
Back to regular programming ..... http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
I'm afraid I don't understand the last two posts.
Of course, I don't know if these posts refer to me or to someone else...but I don't understand why a simple suggestion about an upcoming NSXPO would be such a problem.
Perhaps I'm missing something but, it didn't seem that any of the suggestions were challenging any of the basic planning of the next NSXPO.
-Jim
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1992 NSX Red/Blk 5 spd #0330
1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
1976 Honda Accord 5 spd, 3 door Blue/Blue
1977 Honda Accord - Custom - Under Construction
1986 Chevy Suburban
http://homepage.mac.com/jimanders/PhotoAlbum1.html
They don't "challenge the planning of the next NSXPO". But, just for the record:
Uehara-san (chief NSX designer) attended NSXPO '98 and showed us his vast NSX memorabilia collection.
Five members of the Japanese NSX clubs attended NSXPO '99.
The RealTime Racing team drivers, including Peter Cunningham, Pierre Kleinubing, and Michael Galati, attended NSXPO '98 and NSXPO 2001 and drove folks around Mid-Ohio and Road America.
The person from American Honda who handles Technline for dealer service departments, who is the most knowledgeable person about the NSX based in North America, gave technical presentations about the NSX at NSXPO '97, NSXPO '98, NSXPO '99, and NSXPO 2000.
We would love to have these folks at every NSXPO and they know that they have an open invitation to attend.
erobbins
11-24-2002, 16:18
I think people would be amazed if they knew what the "we should do this" list was like when planning NSXPO.
Of all the things you'd LIKE to do, you have to decide:
1. What you can afford to do.
2. What you can logistically do.
3. What you can get approvals for from the city (when you need them).
4. How you can schedule everything.
5. What alternate/backup you have in place for when something doesn't work out.
We had a lot of cool ideas on the plate, but couldn't schedule them with other activities, couldn't get the right people to commit, or couldn't justify the expense.
You also have to figure out:
6. How to manage the limited number of planning people's time & energy to get the maximum work done.
7. How to set expectations of committee members who don't have event planning experience.
8. When it is time to freeze the event plan and say "no" to any additional ideas.
9. How to best explain to the public why you did or didn't plan an event as part of NSXPO.
Anyone who has been a part of planning large corporate or industry events knows where I am coming from. It's really rewarding, but a lot of hard work and you have to accept that you can't please everyone all the time.
The bottom line is that you just can't do everything you think you'd like to, even though it may seem like a very easy or simple thing to do.
EDR
For the record Eric, I think you guys did a great job with NSXPO 2002. I hope you don't think any of the above posts were critical of the event or of the region's efforts. Far from it! I had a blast! There certainly wasn't any kind of demeaning implication meant.
Ken, some of us weren't fortunate to own their NSX since '98 when NSXPO started. So it's not really "funny," it's just an idea. If someone throws out an idea, don't get all bent out of shape.
In the above posts, I don't see any one who presented an idea being critical.
Hi Ponyboy,
I'm not getting bent out of shape. And if the suggestions were just coming from folks relatively new to the NSX world, it would be perfectly understandable. When they come from someone who has been to some of those previous NSXPOs, though, where the ideas supposedly being presented as new suggestions actually took place there already, well... I see irony there, that's all. In any case, it's not a big deal, let's not pick apart one sentence and blow things out of proportion. Ideas and suggestions are welcome, from long-timers as well as newbies.
BTW, NSXPO started in 1997, not 1998.
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 24 November 2002).]
I was not aware that Honda management had attended a prior NSXPO. I guess it was a good idea.
I can understand how it's tough to put an event like an NSXPO together and I'm sure there's many suggestions and issues to deal with and balance. However, I don't think that's any reason to make people feel unwelcome to contribute.
Well, as Gilda would say...
Never mind.
-Jim
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1992 NSX Red/Blk 5 spd #0330
1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
1976 Honda Accord 5 spd, 3 door Blue/Blue
1977 Honda Accord - Custom - Under Construction
1986 Chevy Suburban
http://homepage.mac.com/jimanders/PhotoAlbum1.html
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erobbins
11-24-2002, 23:49
Originally posted by Ponyboy:
For the record Eric, I think you guys did a great job with NSXPO 2002. I hope you don't think any of the above posts were critical of the event or of the region's efforts.
Neither do I... I was just throwing out some reasons that all of the ideas people have for NSXPO don't make it into the event schedule. Trust me, if we could have kept everyone in Texas for a couple of extra days and had 3-4 more people on the event team, we could have kept everyone engaged. We had that many great ideas. It's just that some don't make the cut for various reasons.
We enjoyed hosting everyone. In some respects, I think I had a better time watching all the attendees have a great time than the attendees did themselves!
EDR
I think the Texas committee really did an excellent job. To me, success at an NSXPO means that pretty much everyone there goes home feeling like they had the time of their lives, that it was worth the time and money to be there. I gotta believe that everyone felt that way; I certainly did.
However, each NSXPO is different. It's a product of the area where it's held, and the people who do the planning. Sometimes there is a specific activity that take place because someone on the committee has an idea and takes the ball and runs with it and makes it happen. Sometimes an activity is obvious because of the location - tours of the Honda plants in Ohio or the Realtime shop in Wisconsin were naturals.
However, the amount of time that we can spend at the event is limited. While the event is four to five days long, two or (this year) three days are for the track event. Thus we have at best a couple of days, and between activities that most people expect, like the seminars and the concours, and activities that provide "local flavor" for our location, we usually keep everyone busy for the entire time of the event. It's more often the case that we don't have enough time to do everything we'd like, than too much time and not enough to do.
Those who have never been to a particular area around NSXPO and would like to do some sightseeing, are encouraged to extend their stay afterwards. If you're interested in sticking around with other folks after the event, mention your interests here and/or on the e-mail lists when you're doing your event planning, and you're likely to find others who would be interested in the same thing - whether it's a drive to wine-tasting country, or golf, or whatever activities you happen to enjoy.
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