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Chris@SoS
10-16-2001, 04:05
Posted from ScienceofSpeed:
Thanks to Bryan Z for sending these.
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/engine_performance_products/superchargers/BaschBoost/baschboost_rwh_1992_stock.gif
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/engine_performance_products/superchargers/BaschBoost/baschboost_rwt_1992_stock.gif
Cheers,
-- Chris
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justin hall
10-16-2001, 10:39
u have chart for 3.2?
u have delivery date for 3.2?
me want supercharger.
God that is one sexy graph! Give me some of that!
That's a really nice smooth curve. What impresses me most is the torque curve.... it just keeps going.
Got the pleasure to meet Mark Basch last night as the SW Caravan rolled thru Tulsa last night. I was very impressed with the design and looks of Da' Supa'. It is extremely clean and he said it would probably be a 2-3 hour install. Wow! You guys going to NSXPO are very fortunate. Very fortunate.
Shawn
Andrie Hartanto
10-16-2001, 12:24
Chris,
Got fuel/air ratio graph as well?
Whoa...everything else stock! http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/eek.gif
I am a little upset I ordered a Comptech a year ago! I talked to Mark B. just before ordering and he didn't even mention that he had this in the works! I guess this is a testament as to how honorable a guy he is, if he would of mentioned that he was working on this I probably would of waited.
His unit looks superior in every way to the Comptech unit. Horsepower, installation, looks. I can't wait to see it at NSXPO, but I think I am going to be a little jealous!
flaminio
10-16-2001, 19:33
I know what *I* want for Christmas...
How much does it cost? $10K like the Comptech one?
-Bob
I'm curious if anyone knows what mod would best compliment Mark's SC in a way to create even greater torque. I understand that opening up any airway would work, but which would be the most effective. I really want to feel the low end punch up after I get this baby installed.
BryanZublin
10-16-2001, 20:46
>I'm curious if anyone knows what mod would
>best compliment Mark's SC in a way to
>create even greater torque.
If you want more torque across the entire RPM range, then more boost pressure will do that. If you want more torque at the upper RPM range, headers, no cats and aftermarket exhaust would be the best initial change. After that, ported heads and higher lift cams. My first mod will be to replace the cats with bypass pipes because I am concerned about heat build-up when I am on the track (sustained full throttle).
Anyone have some used cat bypass pipes for sale?
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Originally posted by flaminio:
I know what *I* want for Christmas...
How much does it cost? $10K like the Comptech one?
-Bob
$5600 if this is still right. http://www.scienceofspeed.com/focus.asp?product=enpp-101
Originally posted by Juice:
I really want to feel the low end punch up after I get this baby installed.
Do you mean below 3k rpm?
Chris@SoS
10-16-2001, 23:00
Anyone have some used cat bypass pipes for sale?
Bryan -- have you seen the TAITEC straight pipes listed on my site? They are less than other alternatives. I post this because I thought you'd be interested in the option to connect an exhaust probe for temp. readings.
-- Chris
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Do you mean below 3k rpm?
Don't be silly. NOBODY drives an NSX below 3000 rpm. http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Actually, it took a lot of getting used to for me after 3 corvettes... where I was used to always drving below 3Krpms. http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/smile.gif
Yes, there were a couple more K available, but purely aesthetic. http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/wink.gif
nsxbadboy
10-17-2001, 01:54
Is it 5600 with Mark flying out and installing it or could it be installed by anyone?
Joe
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93 Supra TT BPU+
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nsxbadboy:
[B]Is it 5600 with Mark flying out and installing it or could it be installed by anyone?
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/engine_performance_products/superchargers/BaschBoost/
If you go to Chris's site a scroll to the bottom, you'll find this:
Terms and Conditions of Sale:
This product is sold with installation for free provided by Basch Acura Service. This is a limited time offer. Certain terms and conditions apply. By purchasing, you agree to the following terms and conditions:
The BaschBoost Supercharger must be installed by Basch Acura Service of Phoenix, AZ and San Diego, CA. This is a limited time restriction for the first 30 units including free installation.
Receipt of payment to ScienceofSpeed places your NSX in line for installation.
Mark has been known to fly out to install parts and work on cars, and gets paid accordingly.
Don't be silly. NOBODY drives an NSX below 3000 rpm. http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, I am looking for that off-the-line-lurch. Probably more important for me to get some clutch work done first, but I have always felt that second gear always needed a lot of help on my 91. Haven't had the chance to play with the 6 speed.
Bryan, check your mail. A friend of mine is selling a practically new set of the Comptech pipes. I was going to buy them, but I'm still undecided with exhaust so I'm going to wait. I emailed you his number. I think it's only been on his car for a couple weeks and he was selling for $200 or so.
BryanZublin
10-18-2001, 18:51
The posted dyno plots don't really show it, but the more detailed dyno print out that I have shows a jump in the torque at the point that the engine switches to the higher profile cam lobes ("VTEC range"). I wonder if there is any performance to be gained by lowering the RPM at which it switches to the VTEC range. I know with NA NSX's there is probably no gain, but with boost there might be. Has anyone tried this on their Comptech or Groupe M SC?
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justin hall
10-18-2001, 18:59
how could you lower when the car goes VTEC? I would guess it is very possible, I just never gave it any thought, but it is a very interesting idea.
19inchNSX
10-18-2001, 19:14
Is this supercharger using stock injectors?
BryanZublin
10-18-2001, 22:21
The VTEC engagement is controlled by a spool valve that is electrically powered. So all that is needed to to apply the power to the valve at a lower RPM. The SmartShift could do this, as well as other VTEC controllers on the market.
The BaschBoost SC uses the stock fuel injectors. The increased fuel flow is achieved by using a higher fuel pressure.
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fueledbymetal
10-19-2001, 12:31
This probably isn't a big concern for most people, but what would the expected drop in fuel economy be? In general, I prefer turbos to superchargers due to their minimized parasitic power losses, but this supercharger appears to make awesome power and is the first I'm actually considering.
Oh baby.
Any idea what it would be with headers and exhaust?
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19inchNSX
10-19-2001, 20:48
Is it possible to get the horsepower quoted from stock injectors? Even so, the injectors would be running maxed out, and vulnerable to failure and the engine lean out under boost. Every other forced induction kit is running different injectors, if they did not feel it was necessary, why would they want the added cost?
Originally posted by BryanZublin:
The VTEC engagement is controlled by a spool valve that is electrically powered. So all that is needed to to apply the power to the valve at a lower RPM. The SmartShift could do this, as well as other VTEC controllers on the market.
The BaschBoost SC uses the stock fuel injectors. The increased fuel flow is achieved by using a higher fuel pressure.
Looks great, but is it guaranteed to pass California smog testing? I'm supposing that the San Diego install option at Dali Racing means that it's CA smog-compatible. Anyone know?
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