View Full Version : I just purchaced a Sirius radio kit for my cars and house
Smoothaccel
11-16-2003, 13:39
Has anyone tried the XM or Sirius radio yet on their NSX?
1HOT NSX
11-16-2003, 13:53
I rented a car that had a Sirius system and it was nice. Great selection of stations and great music overall, however, the signal kept cutting off and it became pretty annoying after a while - I was driving it around the San Francisco Bay Area.
I run XM in my Pathfinder. Will be putting it in the NSX this summer.
As a word of advice to other owners, even if you do not drive that much this service is great. Lots of choice not very much commercial or talk. I highly recomend it.
LeftLane
11-16-2003, 14:16
I don't have either in my NSX, but I do have XM in both mine and my wife's Suburbans...
My unit is the plug and play from Sony that works thru your cassette player and powers thru your cigarette lighter - you have the antenna installed and then you can move it from car to car (or car to home with the home kit). The sound is good, but not as good as it could be with a permanent head unit.
My wife has XM in her OEM unit from the factory and it does sound much better.
After I first got XM in September 03, I was so impressed that I bought the stock at around $3.00. It went down to $1.50 (like everything else I have:mad: ), so I bought some more. Well, they just crossed 1 mil subscribers, and now the stock is at $23.
BTW, it costs $9.97 a month, but if you have more than one, the 2nd thru 4th is only $6.97. Believe me, if you do any significant windshield time, it is AWESOME!! I never listen to the radio or CDs anymore...it's all ESPN, Comedy, Top 20, etc...
I have used Sirius in rental cars, and that service is $14.99 a month. In my own experience, the signal was not as strong, and it was lost fairly often as it attempted to reconnect. I never have that problem with XM.
Prediction - within 2 years, XM will be the dominant provider of satellite radio and will swallow Sirius whole.
Enjoy!!
Smoothaccel
11-18-2003, 01:21
WoW, XM will swallow Sirius whole... LOL I cant wait to install it. I have heard that Sirius has more satellites.
I don't have it installed in my NSX yet (I do have it installed my TSX), but I do have the Kenwood Here2Anywhere Sirius radio, which allows moving it from place to place (including car and home). I hate commercials, and can't stand the idea of paying for XM radio with their commercials.
I have a little trouble with the antenna inside my house and the reception- it's only good if I move it by a window. I rarely have trouble in my car with the antenna under the rear glass.
I have the Sirius sytem and I love it. Although... I regularly listen to WLS, which isn't on the Sirius system.. and believe it or not, excluding of the satellite, I can't get any AM stations in my nsx. Argh. I really haven't had any issues with the signal - when I go under a bridge sometimes it cuts out, but other than that, I love it. For long trips, it's the best. I think in hindsight, I would have gotten XM, but I'm not sure that it is offered in my area. I think XM has more/better stations...
LeftLane
11-18-2003, 10:23
Sirius does have more satellites (3 to 2 for XM), but a big part of the success of a "startup" company is institutional ownership of the stock. GM has a huge stake in XM through Hughes, and a lot of institutional investors favor "first mover advantage", which XM has, since it launched first and has significantly more subscribers (over 1 mil, vs. 250k for Sirius). Also, the future success will hinge in a large part on which automotive brands align with the satellite companies to offer the service as a factory option, and so far XM has more arrangements with the big mass market auto companies, while Sirius has the advantage with high end cars.
At the end of the day, both services are comparable, it's just that XM had a head start, and that is very often critical in a new technology. The reason I say XM will be the winner is because of their backing, and Sirius, at just over $2 a share, could be attractive to them as a takeover.
Yes, XM does have limited commercials on some stations - from which they do make money, which never hurts when you are a fledgling company.
BTW, I believe Acura is offering XM as a factory option now!:)
To each his own - that's the wonderful thing about having options! I just happen to be a guy who favors the "overdog".
Disclosure - I do own XM stock, albeit a small amount.
I have had XM for two years and use it in every vehicle I own.(including NSX) I work in a Diesel Emission Engineering Chassis Dyno facility and even use it when I am testing vehicles on the dyno. I couldn't live without it! (Sony Plug and Play)
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I have used Sirius in rental cars, and that service is $14.99 a month. In my own experience, the signal was not as strong, and it was lost fairly often as it attempted to reconnect. I never have that problem with XM.
Prediction - within 2 years, XM will be the dominant provider of satellite radio and will swallow Sirius whole.
Enjoy!!
Old thread, but an interesting read on how things have changed over the last year. Everywhere I have gone to shop for Sat. Radio raves about the Sirius product over XM. Best Buy and Circuit City both are having trouble keeping them in stock, while not selling much XM. Every sales rep I talked with said hands down that Sirius is much better. I hope their old problems of signal loss is not as prevalent as it used to be.
Does tapping into an unused FM station cause poorer sound quality? I do have an aux/cd option in my Accord, but have no idea how to hook that up.
I have XM in the NSX. I love it. I like talk radio more so than music and this gives me the ability to listen to ESPN and lots of other things.
Yes,Using the FM modulator does have inferior quality than the cassette adapter or plugging straight in but I still think it is ll better than any FM station.
Yes,Using the FM modulator does have inferior quality than the cassette adapter or plugging straight in but I still think it is ll better than any FM station.
Actually, I found that in the NSX that the FM modulator sounds much better than the cassette adapter. There was too much hiss coming through the system with the cassette with or without the dolby on.
Actually, I found that in the NSX that the FM modulator sounds much better than the cassette adapter. There was too much hiss coming through the system with the cassette with or without the dolby on.
I would be using it in my 03 Accord. I can use the compartment under the stereo to house the Sirius because I don't like the unprofessional "stuck to the dash" look. I would think that since the radio is much better than the NSX, the FM method would probably sound better than the same set up in the NSX, but could be wrong.
I could always use the CD/aux, but that would be a pain and I am not sure how to do that.
There's a nice deal on XM posted here (http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44302) in the off-topic forum.
Monthly charges for XM are less than for Sirius. There are some slight differences in programming, but there are far more similarities (and in any case, it all depends on what particular channels might be of interest to you). There's a great website comparing the two services here (http://www.xmorsirius.com).
I've had both Sirius and XM. There are commercials on both, so don't let that sway you. Both of their music channels are commercial free, but the talk areas have commercials like any other radio station. Sirius is same price (per month)as XM if you buy a year subsciption. I had Sirius Fm modulated and it sounded okay. My XM is incorporated into my Mark Levinson in my Lexus and sounds much better. I agree though, that even the FM modulated sounds way better than regular FM stations. Which units of XM fit the best in the NSX??? Roady 2?? I wish people would post more install pics. Take care.
... I wish people would post more install pics. Take care.
I move my Roady around between cars and have the antenae's and power supply already hardwired. In my other cars, I cut out part of the sunglass holder on the headliner and place it in there where I have the wires routed under the headliner and down the A-pillar. For the NSX, I put a strip of double sided tape on the back and just put it on the edge of of the ashtray door when it's open.
I don't like the way it looks in the NSX, but it's the best I could do with the limited cubby space that we have.
Sirius is same price (per month)as XM if you buy a year subsciption.Not according to the Sirius website. It says that Sirius is $12.95 per month, or $142.45 per month if you buy a one-year subscription. The one-year deal is $11.87 per month, almost 19 percent more than XM, which is $9.99 per month, with no twelve-month commitment required.
I wish people would post more install pics.I move my XM Roady around between cars and have the antenae's and power supply already hardwired.I also move my Roady around between cars, with no hardwiring. I place the "mouse" antenna at the forward edge of the dashboard and it works fine. I use the cigarette lighter for the power supply; on the cars where I also use it for the Valentine 1 that I move around between cars, I have an adaptor to plug two devices into the lighter.
... I use the cigarette lighter for the power supply; on the cars where I also use it for the Valentine 1 that I move around between cars, I have an adaptor to plug two devices into the lighter.
Ken, it's very easy to hard wire both the Roady and V-1. With the Roady, I only wired the antenae and I have it placed in the corner of the a-pillar and dashboard. It looks like a large roach sitting there, but the reception is great. I cut to length and spliced the power cord/fm modulator so I don't have a birds nest sitting in the ashtray. The only problem I have is that I cannot see the display while in 3rd or 5th gear while the Roady is taped to the door. I am going to have to figure out a place to moun it like I did with the V-1 remote in the clock.
Not according to the Sirius website. It says that Sirius is $12.95 per month, or $142.45 per month if you buy a one-year subscription. The one-year deal is $11.87 per month, almost 19 percent more than XM, which is $9.99 per month, with no twelve-month commitment required.
But Sirius does not charge extra for internet use or their 2 premium channels and XM does, around $9 per month for all three!! And although xm has commercial free stations, Sirius has way more(120 compared to 68). Sirius also offers a one time $499 lifetime subscription. XM only gives you 5 years for the same price.
Sirus is a MUCH bigger company. The sat providers are positioning themselves now for their demographic--xm wants the 30 and older crowd and is adjusting their programming for such. Sirius is going for the youth market and sports oriented listener. You will see both brands available in most OEM radios and Sirus will catch XM in subscriber #'s quickly. In my stores we sell Sirius units 3 to 1 over XM right now. Both will be around for a while b/c they are not targeting the same customer and both companies are very strong. Right now Sirius is a better investment on the stock market, though.
When I purchased my Sirius, they had a promotion for $9.95 a month if you bought a year's subscription in advance. I was told that was going to be a permanent program. Apparently not. So, I guess your out $24 for the year if you pay for a year in advance. If anyone can't swing that, then I think they've got more problems than which satellite radio service to subscribe to. I've enjoyed my XM very much, but I didn't choose it because it was $2 less a month for a year subscription. If Lexus had Sirius available, I would have that instead.
Funny how people argue so strongly for one or the other... but the three-sentence summary I posted above still stands as accurate, good advice:
Monthly charges for XM are less than for Sirius. There are some slight differences in programming, but there are far more similarities (and in any case, it all depends on what particular channels might be of interest to you). There's a great website comparing the two services here (http://www.xmorsirius.com).I don't sell them, and I don't care which one you choose. I don't "advocate" for one over the other; I simply tell people how to find out more comparison information (and I correct misleading or false statements). It shouldn't be necessary to resort to sarcasm in order to have a legitimate discussion of the pluses and minuses of each of the services, and doing so does a disservice to the NSXprime community. The features and costs should speak for themselves. Each individual can decide what best fits his needs and preferences, hopefully after reviewing the most complete and accurate information.
To anyone considering satellite radio, I again encourage you to simply get the facts. Find out the costs, based on your listening pattern (i.e. car and home vs internet). Find out which programming is offered on both services, and which is exclusive to one or the other. You may find that there is something that appeals to you that is only offered on one service - Howard Stern or NFL on Sirius, Opie and Anthony or MLB or Bob Edwards on XM - and that makes that service preferable to you. Or, you may find that the channels you would listen to are available on both services, and with all else equal, cost may be a more important determining factor. Once you find out about programming, and costs, and equipment, you can make the decision that best meets your needs.
EDIT: Revised wording.
... In my stores we sell Sirius units 3 to 1 over XM right now. Both will be around for a while b/c they are not targeting the same customer and both companies are very strong. Right now Sirius is a better investment on the stock market, though.
I think that in 5-10 years only satellite radio will be available and that conventional radio frequencies will be thing of the past, except for a few local stations. The same thing that happened with television 15-20 years ago. People couldn't even imagining paying for cable with only HBO and a few novelty stations. I remember when MTV was called Video Jukebox and the big preimer on cable was Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video. Boy have things changed since then.
You will see both brands available in most OEM radiosThat won't happen for a while. Both services have been signing exclusive agreements with automakers (XM with GM and Honda, Sirius with Ford and Chrysler). They are cooperating on developing radios that can receive both services, but those are still years away from market. (Reference (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6680477/))
While I'm not sure that this is your point, I look forward to their availability. I think it would be great for people buying X brand of automobile to have a choice between either satellite service. They can make the same kind of comparisons that are available in the aftermarket now. If more people choose Sirius because they happen to like Howard Stern, or XM because it costs less or they like Major League Baseball, that's fine; that's what competition is all about.
You will see both brands available in most OEM radios and Sirus will catch XM in subscriber #'s quickly.That's unlikely. Right now, XM has 2.5 million subscribers, and Sirius has 800,000, and XM is adding customers at a faster rate.
I think that in 5-10 years only satellite radio will be available and that conventional radio frequencies will be thing of the past, except for a few local stations. The same thing that happened with television 15-20 years ago.Huh? Last time I checked, there are still conventional television broadcasts on as many over-the-air stations as ever. Sure, they've lost some market share to cable networks, but they're still around. :confused:
Both services have been signing exclusive agreements with automakers (XM with GM and Honda, Sirius with Ford and Chrysler).I see, in this interesting article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A18878-2004Nov28?language=printer) that appeared in the Washington Post a couple of weeks ago, that GM and Honda are both equipping many of their cars (over a million this year) with XM as standard equipment, whereas the automakers aligned with Sirius are only doing so as optional equipment.
...Huh? Last time I checked, there are still conventional television broadcasts on as many over-the-air stations as ever. Sure, they've lost some market share to cable networks, but they're still around. :confused:
What I meant was that with all of programming available that most people have some sort of pay service for television. How many people do you know that do not have cable/satellite tv?
What I meant was that with all of programming available that most people have some sort of pay service for television. How many people do you know that do not have cable/satellite tv?I know quite a few. However, I agree that most households in the United States have cable/satellite television. But I disagree with your earlier claims that broadcast television has disappeared, or that broadcast radio will disappear with the availability of satellite radio any time soon. In fact, the demand for broadcast television stations has remained strong enough that the satellite providers (e.g. DirecTV) were recently forced to make many local stations available through their feeds - hardly supporting any claims to their past or imminent demise.
What was sarcastic, nsxtasy?? It was 9.95/month for Sirius when I bought mine with a year's subscription. Cool your freakin' jets man. My point was that you shouldn't let $24 a year influence your purchasing decision because the two services are only slightly different, and if having NFL coverage or NPR means a lot to you, then don't gag over a gnat of $24 difference.
People having .0001 mm thick skin do a disservice to the NSXprime community as well. Does a mistake in quoting a price (even though that's what I did pay) qualify as an INSULT??? You have so many posts, I can't believe you are so bent out of shape over a post where I, 1. made a mistake 2. corrected said mistake 3. made what I thought to be a valid recommendation based on my experience with both services. I didn't insult you or do anything to belittle you in any way. Your post did that all by itself!!!Let the negative reputation points fly!!
That won't happen for a while. Both services have been signing exclusive agreements with automakers (XM with GM and Honda, Sirius with Ford and Chrysler). They are cooperating on developing radios that can receive both services, but those are still years away from market. (Reference (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6680477/))
Being on the inside of the industry gives me a little more insight on this. There are several companies debuting dual sat provider ability units along with OEM integration using either service this coming January at CES. While certain car Manufactuers do have exclusive contracts to provide sat service, that does not mean that just because you have a GM product you cant use Sirius through your factory input. There are also car manufacters such as Toyota that will offer both services from the dealer. MSNBC is a good source for news, but not always the most accurate :wink: There are also several vendors such as Alpine who had agreements with XM at first, but now offer adapters (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-hLrJdFrrjkt/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?wm=fa&I=607SIRALP1) for their head units to use either sat provider. Most every car audio manufacture will have this option by the middle of 05.reference (http://www.twice.com/article/CA376927.html?display=Mobile+Electronics)
There are several companies debuting dual sat provider ability units along with OEM integration using either service this coming January at CES.
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Most every car audio manufacture will have this option by the middle of 05.reference (http://www.twice.com/article/CA376927.html?display=Mobile+Electronics)Your reference, which is from January 2004, states that this would not be available until 2006. (Maybe what you say is true, but it's not backed up by that particular article. I'm not asking for additional citations - I'll take your word for it, since CES is next month and all...)
While certain car Manufactuers do have exclusive contracts to provide sat service, that does not mean that just because you have a GM product you cant use Sirius through your factory input. There are also car manufacters such as Toyota that will offer both services from the dealer.Yes, this is true today. However, there is a big advantage for the XM-aligned car manufacturers like GM and Honda, because the receiver is standard equipment so there is no additional charge for the customer to pay for equipment (and no additional sales job for the dealer), and it usually comes with three months free XM service. Sure, an owner of a GM or Honda can install Sirius aftermarket equipment, just as the owner of a new Ford or Chrysler can install Sirius (aftermarket or OEM) or XM (aftermarket) equipment, but in any of these cases, he/she has to pay for it. Maybe Sirius will adopt the same policy in the future, but until then, this is a big competitive advantage for XM in the marketplace. (Note that GM and Honda own minority shares in XM, so they have an interest in its success.)
Buy one of each! I got stock in both of them. I think you could even get a lifetime subscribtion for $400.00 or $500.00 or something like that!!!
I think you could even get a lifetime subscribtion for $400.00 or $500.00 or something like that!!!As noted in a previous post by SNDSOUL, for $500, you can get a lifetime subscription to Sirius, but only a five-year subscription to XM. There is no lifetime option for XM.
That's a lifetime subscription to that particular piece of equipment or ESN isn't it?? If you trade your car with the equipment in it, or upgrade the head unit or Sirius unit, then you need to do another $500 subscription, right?? Not trying to be sarcastic, just asking a question!!! :biggrin:
That's a lifetime subscription to that particular piece of equipment or ESN isn't it?? If you trade your car with the equipment in it, or upgrade the head unit or Sirius unit, then you need to do another $500 subscription, right?? Not trying to be sarcastic, just asking a question!!! :biggrin:
No, you can change the ESN on your subscription. Just like you would if your unit broke or became damaged in an accident. They definetly dont think you will keep the same car or stereo for the rest of your life :biggrin:
For those who are interested in where satellite radio is headed, here is one more interesting aspect of a fascinating picture...
Source: New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/09/technology/circuits/09cana.html?pagewanted=all)
For Satellite Radio Fans, Northern Exposure
By COLIN CAMPBELL
Published: December 9, 2004
AJAX, Ontario
ROB MacARTHUR, a part-time music promoter, has a cardboard box full of nearly 60 CD's at his bar in this town half an hour east of Toronto, sent to him by independent Canadian musicians hoping for a shot at getting their songs on the radio.
For many of these artists the odds are slim, admits Mr. MacArthur, who is a guitarist in country bands himself. The music is good, but there isn't enough space on the radio for everyone, said the 43-year-old, who with his long gray hair and ready smile has the look of an aging country musician.
"It's constrictive," he said. "If you're a new artist trying to break in, you're having a hell of a time."
But those artists may be getting more exposure if satellite radio, with its hundreds of channels, is approved in Canada, as many here expect it to be early next year.
And in the process, the more than three million subscribers to XM Satellite Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio in the United States may find a slightly more Canadian flavor on the radio: more Canadian music, more Canadian news and more Canadian comedy.
That is because to win approval here, satellite radio must become a little more Canadian.
Though XM and Sirius signals reach Canada, and some Canadians furtively own receivers, the equipment is not yet legal. The hitch is a decades-old Canadian broadcasting policy meant to guarantee that the content on Canadian airwaves is sufficiently Canadian (about 35 percent for the typical music radio station) and not overwhelmed by a flood of American pop culture.
These rules remain important for Canada, said Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa. "There needs to be cultural policy put into place that helps level the playing field and allow Canadian content to be made," he said.
Canadian Satellite Radio and Sirius Canada, the two companies pitching the service to the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission, Canada's version of the F.C.C., are Canadian-owned but close partners of the American satellite radio services.
Each has promised to offer five all-Canadian channels across North America (including two in French), and potentially eight if there are enough Canadian subscribers. The companies have promised various other incentives to promote Canadian talent and woo the commission, considered by many to be the guardian of Canadian culture.
"This is the first time we will be exporting channels into the U.S.," said Kevin Shea, the president of Sirius Canada, a consortium made up of Sirius Radio, Standard Radio and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Canada's national public broadcaster. The company has promised to offer four CBC stations and one station produced by Standard Radio, a large privately owned Canadian broadcast company.
Over the course of the license, which typically lasts about seven years, it would also spend about $18.5 million to support Canadian talent, including money for travel to Sirius headquarters in New York for live performances and to promote tours, Mr. Shea said.
Canadian Satellite Radio, in partnership with XM Satellite Radio, plans to offer a similar mix of news and music stations, as well as a Canadian comedy channel.
It plans to create a position in Washington for an "ambassador" who would promote new Canadian acts among XM Radio programmers and arrange live shows featuring Canadian artists at XM's studios, Stewart Lyons, the company's vice president, said in a phone interview. In addition, it will build sound studios in Montreal and Toronto to help independent artists and spend $23.5 million developing Canadian talent.
There is some concern about squeezing Canadian channels into the mix, given satellite radio's limited bandwidth, which for Sirius stands at about 120 channels and for XM at about 130, officials at both Canadian companies said. But there is also a lot of confidence in the appetite for Canadian programming in the United States, they argued.
"CBC News I think could do phenomenally well in the U.S., outside of the fact that there are a lot of Canadians at various times of the year in the United States," Mr. Shea said.
"We knew that going in, the bandwidth is limited," Mr. Lyons said. "When we say we offer five channels, that's five channels that will have to give way on the XM system."
Canadian channels will not force American programming off the air; rather, the expansion is in step with efforts to carry a wide variety of programming, said Chance Patterson, XM's vice president for corporate affairs.
"There's going to be a good number who find the programming attractive, just by the sheer numbers" of subscribers, Mr. Patterson said. The comedy channel, for example, would be popular given the tradition of talent in Canada, he said.
One comedian eager to see the technology expand here is Ben Miner, who for the last year has been traveling around eastern Canada honing his standup comedy routine in small clubs and sharing motel rooms with other comedians to save money.
Satellite radio technology would help comedians reach an American audience, help develop the Canadian market and open a lot of doors, Mr. Miner said. "There are three of us in a two-bedroom hotel room with a cot off to the side," he said, when reached by phone at a hotel in Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, where he is on tour. "We've been using the Foreman grill making sandwiches. That's why I want satellite radio, so I can eat out instead of making grilled cheese."
Mr. Miner is passionate enough about the technology that he appeared in November at the radio commission's hearings, decked out in his only suit - a three-piece pinstripe - and a gold tie, gold shirt, and gold pocket square, to speak in favor of allowing satellite radio in Canada.
"We need to be able to export things aside from maple syrup," he joked.
Both services stand a good chance of winning approval, Mr. Geist said. Faced with new border-defying technologies like satellite and the Internet, the commission is having to reconsider and adapt its approach to Canadian content laws, he said.
"What we're going to see is increasingly a shift toward policy that encourages the creation of Canadian content, as opposed to policies focused on creating barriers to disseminating foreign content in Canada."
Still, the emerging gray market for satellite-radio equipment in Canada - the Canadian satellite-radio applicants estimate the current number of users here at 50,000 - may also hasten action by the commission.
Mr. MacArthur, for example, often plays satellite radio at his bar using equipment he borrows from a regular customer, a long-haul trucker. On a reporter's visit, the system was tuned to the 50's Channel on XM, and the crystal-clear sound of Peggy Lee echoed through the bar.
Some Canadian music industry groups oppose satellite radio, arguing that it still does not meet Canadian content laws; they argue that there is a risk of lost royalties with new products that allow users to record satellite radio. At the November hearing, commission members also expressed some skepticism about the proposals and the limited amount of Canadian content.
The service in Canada will be virtually identical to that offered across the United States, although the commission may order some channels disabled to meet local standards.
Sirius and XM can tailor programming to target specific markets, but in the United States they have been forced under pressure from the broadcast industry, particularly the National Association of Broadcasters, to offer all of their channels everywhere and not compete with local services, said Bob Richards, a partner with Skywaves Research, an independent satellite radio research company.
More and more channels have been turned over to local weather and traffic by both Sirius and XM, but by law are all carried nationally, instead of just the relevant markets, Mr. Richards added.
Canadian commission approval is not a sure thing. But the opportunities for most Canadian musicians to be heard are much higher with satellite radio than without, Mr. MacArthur said.
"Satellite radio is about giving Canadians a chance to get aired," he says. "We don't want satellite radio to get U.S. music here. It's already here."
No, you can change the ESN on your subscription. Just like you would if your unit broke or became damaged in an accident. They definetly dont think you will keep the same car or stereo for the rest of your life :biggrin:
Actually, they do expect you to. The lifetime subscription is only for the life of that unit. Once you sell it or it is destroyed, or you want to upgrade, you have to pay another $500 (actually $499, I don't want NSXtasy freaking out) to get another lifetime subscription for that new unit and ESN. There's no way they could offer a lifetime subscription for YOUR life and be profitable. That's why they strongly encourage an extended warranty on any equipment you purchase and use with a lifetime subscription, because once it's toast, the lifetime subscription is too.
Once you sell it or it is destroyed, or you want to upgrade, you have to pay another $500 (actually $499, I don't want NSXtasy freaking out) to get another lifetime subscription for that new unit and ESN.According to the Sirius website, the precise amount is $499.99. The website also says that the lifetime subscription is a special offer that ends December 31.
Exactamundo!!! Why would anyone do the lifetime subscription??? If you wanted to upgrade your stereo equipment, or if you sold your car with that equipment, you're screwed. You would have to at least keep the sirius stereo/car for a little over 3 years to break even. A lot of people on this site and other enthusiasts (electronic or car) change those items out more often than they change their socks. 3 years is an eternity, especially the way electronics change. Oh well, to each his own. Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas. I guess the PC term is Happy ChrismaKwanzikah!!!! I prefer good old fashioned Merry Christmas.
Sincity Bartender
12-23-2004, 01:58
Forget brand X go with Sirius....
finally got everything installed and it looks great. I didn't want to cut anything or stick to the dash/console, but at the same time, I didn't want wires all over the place. The compartment under the stereo works perfectly. I still have some room below the Sirius for storage, and it completely hides it when it is closed. There's no place in my NSX to put it like this, but for my Accord it works good. Here's a pic.
It does sound pretty good, but I agree that it would sound better going through aux instead of FM modulator. Now one with it closed...
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