bad bike accident

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Was out running errands in the NSX this afternoon. Saw the aftermath of a nasty bike accident.

Police closed the direction of traffic by 1 mile. The bike rider apparently hit the van in the picture HARD. When we looked back at the van we saw a HUGE impact zone in the side of the van. I surmise the bike rider is probably dead.

Very sad.
 

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Also went to a Girl Scouts auto show (LOL), and saw this sweet GT.

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I used to have a R1 Yamaha,Got my self into an NSX because of that possibilty. Miss the bike but just to risky on the streets.
 
Bikes are so much fun but just as dangerous. You don't realize ALL the dangers until you own one. I do miss my Suzuki Bandit but cannot justify the risk.
 
NsXMas said:
I think I figured out how the accident happened here. The van was making a left turn into the parking lot. The biker probably figured he could speed by before the van turned left.

A little too late, a lot too fast, and the impact must have been horrific. The van's right side was literally a huge crater.

In motorcycle safety school, you learn that that is exactly the way most motorcycle accidents happen... someone not seeing the motorcycle and turning left right in front of them.

That doesn't mean that the biker was necessarily speeding, regardless of how fast the bike was, the van still pulled out in front of the biker.
 
hlweyl said:
That doesn't mean that the biker was necessarily speeding, regardless of how fast the bike was, the van still pulled out in front of the biker.
Doesn't matter who was at fault, end result is the same = dead biker. I've known too many people that have been seriously hurt in motorcycle accidents to ever want to ride one on public streets.
 
It must be the nice weather...

I've noticed a bunch of people "exercising" their bikes from the winter.

I have a very similar story.

I was going to class and I was waiting for the bus and I noticed, from the noise, a bike driving down the street. Then he turned right and drove down the street in front of me. I looked away and then I looked back when I heard the scraping of his bike sliding and saw the crash a second after it happened. This was the same scenario, a Jetta turned left in front of the bike. The guy, either intentionally or out of shock, layed down the bike and slammed into the front right of the car. He bent the cars' rim, and pushed in the front side pretty good. I'd guess he was going atleast 40 when he tried to stop. The guy's left arm was pretty mangled. He had on chaps so I guess he didn't road rash his legs up, but he wasn't wearing a helmet. There was a stream of blood coming from somewhere. The guy was crying so I guess that is a good sign. I haven't heard what happened to him.

I'd like a bike someday, but everytime I think of that I look at the scar on my elbow from wrecking a moped going like ~8mph and then I quickly change my mind :biggrin:. There is just no room for error on those things, I'm sure they are a blast, but that's one last risk I will be taking.
 
I've been on bikes 34 years. Last summer I paid the price. I dumped my Ducati at 100 MPH when I hit gravel on a country road and shot off into the ditch. I hit a boulder hard enough to snap the frame in two. Missed half the summer in a coma.

All I can say is that anyone who doesn't wear a helmet and proper gear is a fool. I really laugh at those who don't wear a helmet because "they would rather be dead than a veg." I'm not dead and I'm not a veg because of my Arai.

Now I have an NSX too, but, another bike is in my future.
 
My brother was in a really bad motorcycle accident about 2 years ago with his 02 R1. The doctors didn't know if he was going to make it. Ever since then I gave up the notion to buy myself a motorcycle.
 
I don't think motorcycles are as dangerous as a lot of people are making them out to be. I've got over 120,000 miles of riding over the past 7 years. In town, freeway, day, night, rain, shine, snow etc. with only 1 crash on the street... that was partly do to my own stupidity. If you use common sense, ride a little defensively and be extra alert, you can be just fine riding a motorcycle.

A friend of mine had a rather bad crash when a car turned in front of him. He was traveling waaay in excess of the speed limit though, so I wouldn't count that really as the drivers fault. You shouldn't expect others on the road to figure on any approaching vehicle running double the posted limit.

Get a bike and ride it! You're missing out if you don't :)
 
MDB..... good advice. Bike accidents happen, just like car accidents happen. A good driver can avoid 99% of accidents. My dad road motorcycle for 25 years...he had a bad accident a couple years back where he still suffers from seizures. However he got back on and still rides today. He gave me this advice that's saved me many times.

"RIDE LIKE YOUR INVISIBLE"

which is true..... you don't ever assume someone sees you. Also "TAKE A DRIVERS TRAINING CLASS" if it's your first bike. I started riding when I was 15 and I took a class (mandatory for minors) It tought me so much about riding that I still use today.

Also, don't forget.....life is there to live, don't fear the "what ifs"
 
I agree with the last two posts, I've been riding for about five years relatively accident free(I broke a guys taillight with my clutch lever once)
I ride with about five or six other people who mostly ride sport bikes and the only accidents I have seen have been mostly from the rider screwing around. As long as you keep you eyes open, stay alert and ride defensively, most problems can be avoided. It's so worth riding, I could never give it up.
 
I keep toying with the idea of getting a bike myself. I want one pretty bad and only want one worse when I see a few of them out riding on a nice day around here.
I know the dangers are out there but don't want to live in fear of not being able to do what I want to. Please don't preach to me.
Just can't seem to find the right deal on one now to pull the trigger and buy it. But I will.........I think
 
If you do decide to buy, I highly recommend an Arai helmet.

When I used to ride my bike, I would get smacked in the helmet glass with bugs and other debris. I can't imagine getting hit in the face with that stuff, it would sting like crazy.

Plus the added head protection is well worth the slight discomfort. I always felt naked without a helmet.
 
NsXMas said:
If you do decide to buy, I highly recommend an Arai helmet.

When I used to ride my bike, I would get smacked in the helmet glass with bugs and other debris. I can't imagine getting hit in the face with that stuff, it would sting like crazy.

Plus the added head protection is well worth the slight discomfort. I always felt naked without a helmet.

for sure. here in FL you don't have a wear a helmet riding a motorcycle but you do a pedal bike??? :confused: go figure
I think you are NUTS if you ride without a helmet and proper protective attire. Might be a little uncomfortable, but will be nice protecttion if you ever need it.
 
One of my coworkers was in Florida last month to participate in a national biker event. While in a motorcycle caravan, a truck in front of them dropped a roll of carpet that was not secured properly. The bikers in front of him were able to avoid hitting the carpet, but my coworker had no room to manuever and ran directly into the carpet. It caught on his wheels, and took him down hard. He ended up having surgery to replace a badly torn shoulder, and 8 broken ribs. He is out of work for the next 8 weeks.

Like I said, no way I would risk riding a bike on public roads.
 
PHOEN$X said:
Like I said, no way I would risk riding a bike on public roads.

If you have seen what I've seen from car accidents you probably wouldn't drive a car either.... don't let the fear of death keep you from living.... :smile:
 
newby said:
If you have seen what I've seen from car accidents you probably wouldn't drive a car either.... don't let the fear of death keep you from living.... :smile:
Who said a fear of death was keeping me from living? There are levels of risk I am willing to accept, but riding a vehicle with with just a helmet & suit for protection on dangerous public roads is not one of them. YMMV.
 
I'm one of those fortunate enough to have survived a pretty nasty motorcycle crash, and I'm 100% sure it was due to my wearing a helmet and 100% due to luck. To survive getting hit by a car on I-95 and being thrown from a bike at 80mph isn't fun. Factor in that this was in the middle of traffic also going 80mph I probably would have had a better chance of winning the lottery than surviving, but I survived. As a result of learning how fragile life is, I promised myself that I would never get on a motorcycle ever again.

Whenever I geared up for a ride I was ready for it to be my last, hopefully not my death. There are many different causes for crashing on a motorcycle, but one thing is for certian: You will get hurt! I had 10 years of riding under my belt before my crash, there were a few close calls but never anything due to stupidity on my part. Heck, I never once pulled a wheelie, but I did acheive a top speed of 150mph which was scary as fcvk. I don't want to preach, but for those of you interested in getting on a motorcycle, please buy the best gear you can afford, that means no $100 helmets, and definitely take a MSF course. One thing is for sure though, I feel much safer in my NSX at 120mph than on a motorcycle at 80mph.

For all the NSX bikers out there, please ride safe.
 
NsXMas said:
If you do decide to buy, I highly recommend an Arai helmet.

When I used to ride my bike, I would get smacked in the helmet glass with bugs and other debris. I can't imagine getting hit in the face with that stuff, it would sting like crazy.

Plus the added head protection is well worth the slight discomfort. I always felt naked without a helmet.

Hi

I use Shoei myself and love them. I am naked without my full Dainese leathers with back protector and my good boots.

I can not imagine riding my bike without all my protective gear. Doing that is just plain stupid.

I try to get 2-4 days at a track every year to practice. That is good training to learn skills that can save you on the road.

Regards
 
i'm a 36 (37?) year rider with 20+ honda's in my past (and 3 currently in my garage + nsx), hundreds of thousands of miles under my feet. i grew up riding a motorcycle here in calif without a helmet, often in shorts and barefeet as weather permitted. i've never had an accident on any of my bikes, but i did drop one of the wings in the garage while moving it (i'd had a beer or two :(

since the helmet law came into effect (94/5?), i've worn a helmet... didn't like it at first but confess that i'd feel naked and **very** exposed without it now.

to the poster who said bikes weren't as dangerous as people make them out to be: from your lips to god's ears, my man.

to the poster who's father said "drive like you're invisible", give the old man a hug and tell him thanks the next time you're with him.

i **always** assume someone will try to kill me while i'm on my bikes - they may not mean to, but they will - talking on cell phone/switching lanes, kicking a ball across the street without thinking, sudden/inappropriate turn, TRYING TO SHOVE ME INTO THE DIVIDER STRIP so they can get around the slow car in front of them on the freeway.

yup. they're out there, everyday, no matter where you are, where you live, how fast your bike and your reflexes are (or you think they are) - they're trying to kill you. darwin is a bitch.

in spite of these things, i **love** riding my motorcyles....

be well, all
(help: the paranoids are after me ;)
 
queenlives said:
(help: the paranoids are after me ;)

You bring up a good point. For those of your who are so paranoid about dying or getting hurt on a motorcycle... your right it's not the thing for you.
However for me.... I'm comfortable enough on a motorcycle to feel safe riding. I only wear a helmet when I'm on the highways (or it's cool out). [If you think that's stupid..then I'm sorry you judge people so quickly.] Riding to me is more then just going down a road on a motorized bike. I love the wind through my hair and the breeze on my face. It's a feeling of freedom.....
I have a safety gear, but only wear it when I'm doing agressive riding (going for a ride through the twisties).
If you are attentive while riding, your odds avoiding an accident are 100X better. For instance...watch the other drivers...not the vehicles. If someone is on the cellphone, pay more attention to them. When you are passing....look to see that the person in front of you sees you in their mirror...if not, be ready to hit the brakes or accelerate if they began changing lanes. It's called defensive driving. A bike (most bikes anyway) can respond twice as good as any car (including the NSX). It's faster, it brakes faster, and it turns faster. These are all to your advantage when it comes to avoiding an accident.
Some people just aren't motorcycle people. A friend of mine is like me....he enjoys nice fast cars... loves the feeling of acceleration...and things motorcycles are great. That is until he finally bought one. I told him to start out small....so he picked up a 96 Yamaha FZR (YZF?) 600 for about $3000. He drove it a few times and then dumped it once after hitting a gravel shoulder (didn't get hurt). He sold it a month after buying it. He said he just didn't feel safe on it.
It comes down to control. If you feel as though the bike is a part of you when you ride....you have more control then those who feel like they are just riding on something. Some have it...some don't. I'm not saying just because you have it means you are safe from all accidents....but I do mean you are more likely to avoid an accident.

DocL.... I understand your position for not wanting to get back on a Motorcycle. Just like my dad's accident...I wouldn't have blamed him if he never road again. Luck is a funny thing....kind of like lightening... :smile:
 
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