Ban Kill Stories

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Lud, I'm not sure if you have any current policy on so-called "kill" stories: I personally object to content likethis regarding street racing. This follows a similar story that did result in an accident, fortunately it appears, with no casualties. This is all happenning in urban locations, too.
I hope you will receive support from fellow members to eliminate this kind of posting and endorse it yourself.
I have no vendetta against banning any individual, just content similar to this, which is wholly irresponsible & should not be encouraged via this medium. The general content of all the individual forums is of very high std. & I believe what makes it attractive to the community you have built. I hate to see it diluted by trash like the example quoted.
 
I second the motion - kill stories are a waste of keystrokes.
 
I had not read that post until now and I concure-rubish and not apropriate for prime,but then we all know that...right?!
 
Wow, I hadn't read that either till just now. Those were some pretty harsh things said back there.
I guess I'm stupid for owning such a wonderful car (NSX) and only wanting to bring it out of the garage on the weekends and enjoy it. I do so in moderation. I will admit that I do speed in it...on the on ramp to the interestate. Only to then slow back down to the posted speed limit. The car already is attention getting. No use in making it easier for a cop.
I agree that racing should be left for the track but everyone isn't so naive to think that that is where it will truly stay.

Remember that thing called freedom of speech. If you don't like reading such a thing as a 'kill story' you don't have to. Some people may though.
Afterall this is a free board right?
JMO

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D'Ecosse,
I would hardly can stand your kind of tone. This is not a trash or a kill story as you have pointed out (ie, it is not one sided, and like I explained, most of the time, we are the only one that involved). You might be a close minded person, but there are plenty of other who are not. All I hear from you are complains, and nothing else. What have you done to contribute to the NSX
community? nothing. If you have a problem with me, contact me directly. I run the show here in San Diego, and ny name is pretty well know here in the NSX crowd, and I will be more than happy to address any questions you might have.
 
One other thing, don't ever try to tell me what to do, you are not in the position to argue with me. Beside I think i have made enough wise decisions in my life to warranty a little respect and trust. If you don't like what I said, i suggest you go do something else to take your mind off from my story.
 
Originally posted by Deqle:
As it comes to be know as our weekend ritual here in San Diego; we went out hunting for our next match
Originally posted by Deqle:
I noticed this beautiful Jaguar tracking at very high speed. I jumped on him, we ran to about 115mph before he pulled away, at one point he was only inches away from my bumper.

Point of clarification here - it appears that since he was pulling away from you, as the pursuer, you were the one only inches from his bumper

Originally posted by Deqle:
I directed the silver S2K to track him down.
Originally posted by Deqle:
at speed around 140+mph... At one point the S2K driver went airborne at very high speed going over a bump,
Originally posted by Deqle:
As soon as the S2K went airborne, the Supra proceeded to took out the Jaquar, by running over him at over 150mph.
Originally posted by Deqle:
We will run again tommorow.

So, all of the above, going on the weekly "hunt", calling up the next member to take over, already planned for the next day, apparently is all impromptu, or so you would have us believe -

Originally posted by Deqle:
Why do we do this, you asked? First off, a lot of time, when we get together, it is often impromptu, and not schedule way in advance.


I had no problem with you personally, but don't like the content matter of posts like that referenced for the points already made, with no further clarification necessary.
Now you are the one getting away from the subject matter & getting personal, vilifying me for daring to suggest that street racing a few inches from another vehicle's bumper at speeds of 115mph, vehicles getting airborne at 140mph & wrecking cars downtown while on the way for a few drinks is objectionable.
I don't intend to debate you further in this or any forum - you obviously think you are flawless so good luck to you.
I am content to let the moderators & the other members decide whether this kind of material is deemed worthy of this fine forum - if they do, I won't sulk, or quit, I'll just ignore it as I choose going forward.



[This message has been edited by D'Ecosse (edited 30 December 2002).]
 
Now, now boys, settle your differences at the track...not here (or on the street)
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I'm no fan of kill stories either, but Deqle's post didn't come off as one. Granted some of the driving sounded reckless, but there was no putting down of the Jag or its driver. It was more like a little enthusiastic driving that got out of hand. I think he got the message though..

Also, I think both of you have contributed positively to this forum. I've enjoyed reading both your posts. Let's just let this issue die and move on, okay?
 
The run that we made after that night run was a canyon run, hosted by me for the SoCal sport car guys here in San Diego. It has nothing to do with what happened the previous night. This is different.

Now, I have said that I have taken everyone advises into consideration, and will be making certain changes regarding the way that things operate around here. Yet, everytime we go out, i have a responsibility to make sure evryone in the group will be Ok. But like I said, sometime, things happened, and it was not in my control.

Do I endorse and encourage what we do to others that is not in the group; No, this is just us. We know the inherent risks, and alway try our best to look after each other.
But like I said, things will change as I see fit.
 
Also, I think both of you have contributed positively to this forum. I've enjoyed reading both your posts. Let's just let this issue die and move on, okay?

Very nicely put !!

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92NSX, Very Nicely Put. Have to agree with you there.
 
I don't agree nor disagree the policy.
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Personally I like to have a kills forum to read stuff in. I have found some pretty funny stuff in them. At the same time people are complaining about the "kill" stories, they are posting in the "fastest you had your NSX to" thread with speeds of 150+.

Not trying to start a war, but lots of contradictory stuff. I just refrain from posts such as that on here, and read them on Temple of VTEC or Ricecop.com.
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SR

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Originally posted by Deqle:
92NSX, Very Nicely Put. Have to agree with you there.

Deqle! Nice to see you posting again (BTW that was my comment that 92NSX reposted)
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Will you be more active and forthcoming once things get back to normal?
 
A real "kill story"

http://www.newsday.com/mynews/ny-lishot033204197apr03.story


Murder Charges in Accident
DA: Duo’s drag race took lives of couple
By Jennifer Sinco Kelleher and Andrew Smith
STAFF WRITERS

April 3, 2003

Two young drivers whose speeding cars crashed into a third vehicle, killing a couple in Muttontown in June, have been indicted by a grand jury on murder charges, a Nassau prosecutor said yesterday.

Blake Slade, 20, of 206 Brookville Rd., Muttontown, and Kyle Soukup, 18, of 5 Woodedge Lane, Brookville [CORRECTION: Based on incorrect information from Nassau County police, a story yesterday misstated the address for Kyle Soukup, one of two men indicted on second-degree murder charges stemming from an automobile crash. Soukup's address is 3 Woodedge Lane in Brookville. pg. A20 NS 4/4/03], were each arraigned yesterday in Mineola on two counts of second-degree murder under circumstances evincing "depraved indifference to human life."

"Their conduct was so egregious. They showed enough disregard for human lives that we felt the murder charges were appropriate," Assistant District Attorney Michael Walsh said in an interview after the brief court appearance.

Slade and Soukup, who are free on bail - Slade's was set at $100,000 and Soukop's at $50,000 cash or $100,000 bond - pleaded not guilty before Court of Claims Justice Alan Honorof. Their attorneys said the crash was a tragic accident and the men are sorry for it.

Police said on June 10, Slade was driving a 2002 Mercedes and Soukup was driving a 2000 Corvette. Both men were headed north on Route 106 when their cars slammed into a 1993 Jeep carrying Sophia Bretous, 23, and her fiance, Jean Desir, 31, as the couple's car turned left onto Muttontown Road. The two cars struck the Jeep with such force it split in two, police said. According to Walsh, the men were driving at more than twice the legal limit of 55 mph in a neighborhood where there are homes with driveways abutting the road. Witnesses said the men were driving side-by-side as they increased speed, which Walsh said indicated they were engaging in a speeding contest.

John Kase of Garden City, attorney for Slade, said murder charges are usually reserved for the most heinous crimes and should not be used in this case to prosecute two young men who have never been in trouble with the law before. "I am dismayed. This was clearly an accident and to escalate it to murder, in my opinion, is a stretch," Kase said yesterday.

Kase also complained that District Attorney Denis Dillon's office increasingly has used murder with "depraved indifference to human life" to prosecute defendants in fatal automobile crashes. "There is criticism in some judicial circles of the use of this statute," said Kase. "We plan on fighting this tooth and nail."

Fred Klein, chief of the district attorney's Major Offense Bureau, said such prosecutions are "very rare" and he could not recall Dillon's office ever bringing a murder charge stemming from a car accident before.

Slade, who was a student at Tulane University in New Orleans at the time of the crash, has since transferred to Hofstra University, Kase said. Slade made the move, Kase said, so he could be closer to home while the criminal case against him unfolds.

Soukup's attorney, Stephen Scaring of Garden City, did not return calls seeking comment.
Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.

NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.
 
PHOEN$X,
Thankyou for correcting my mistake, VERY NICELY PUT, what a great saying; I will be sure to keep that line in mind.

Also, I appreciate eveyrone else for voicing their opinions and concerns, I really appreciate that. Like I said before, this is a great board to have around, because of people like you guys.

Last but not least, for only those who's interested; we also just lost a blue Lamborghini recently here in Encinitas on a trip with a twin-turbo Corvette. Wow, we have lost quite a few cars in the past 4 months. This is unbelieveable. Please no more.

You guys up on this board, and I mean everyone. Take great care of yourselves, your family, and the people that matter to you. Good luck, and god speed to everything that you do. I will talk to you guys from time to time.
 
PHOEN$X said:
Russ - thanks for posting that extremely sad story.

I didn't mean to bum anyone out, I was merely trying to underscore that for participants as well as non-participants, street racing can have extremely serious consequences.
 
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Russ said:
I didn't mean to bum anyone out, I was merely trying to underscore that street racing can have extremely serious consequences.

Thanks, Russ. We all need a dose of reality now and then to keep us grounded. Like D said, stay safe! :)
 
I used to be in the street racing scene. I would only go out and watch them do it...honestly. I wouldn't race anybody and that irritated them. They have since been getting caught on a regular basis and now about 30-35 of them have court dates set to go before the judge. A good friend of mine is heavily involved and he STILL continues to go do it despite having been busted.

I was out with them one night when we all got caught and the cop told me that he would let me go this time but to not come out anymore and do it. I haven't been back since. My buddy was with me that night, he still keeps going back though.

Moral of this, some people just never learn until something tragic happens to them.
 
I have to agree with everyone here. Street racing is not worth it, no matter what's kind of vehicles you drive. Like I said, take care, and good luck everyone.
Sincerely regards,
De
 
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