Damaged SS brake-line

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Last week, I had replaced my worn Racing Brake rotors with new rotor rings together with a new set of Hawk HPS brake pads. The job was not that difficult (will do a write-up later) and everything seemed ok afterwards. Braking was fine.
However, I was going on a trip in the Ardennes, so I wanted to do some preparation in advance. Under heavy braking, I had been experiencing left rear wheel lock-up, which was very unnerving as it would cause the tail to come around.

The suggestion was to flush the ABS-system, which I had not done before. I used the DIY-method as described at www.danoland.com. Had some trouble at first with the left rear solenoid which would click but otherwise do nothing, but after some times posted here http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105107, I finally got it working again and I was able to replace all the fluid.
However, when doing my test-drive, after a couple of emergency stops, I lost practically all brake pressure, then the parking light came on and a few moments later also the ABS and TCS lights.
I drove home very carefully. And some consultation with other NSX-owners, it was suggested that somehow air might have entered the system and I was have to flush my brake fluid as well.

This, I did on Saturday with some help and yes, there was indeed some air bubbles coming out. However, when finished, after a few hard steps on the brake, pressure was gone AGAIN :eek:
Then, I found out, that my right front brake line had been damaged to the point the fluid was squirting out of it if you stepped on the pedal.

Luckily, I still had a set of brake lines at home including the banjo bolts and washers, so I was able to replace the damaged line, redid the brake fluid change and went out for a very, very careful test drive.
Also, during the trip, I paid close attention to the functioning of my brakes.
They did get a bit soft on a very fast and long descent, but that was simply to do the fact my brakes were extremely hot. More easy driving for a couple of minutes was enough to solve that problem.

I am very lucky to have found this out in time before my trip and not during some descent.
Here is a pictures of the brake line. I must have damaged it during the rotor replacement without noticing. And yes, it was a braided stainless steel brake line.
The SS lines are LESS flexible than the OEM lines and are probbe therefore more easily damaged when stressed beyond their limit.

Needless to say, brake lines will be on my check list from now on :smile:

Brake_Line.JPG
 
I had such a problem before when I had my Tein RA suspension, the problem was, the brake bracket somehow got loose and turn, kinked the brake line.

That wasn't a problem until the knuckle caught the kink and rupture it. And funny thing, it happened at the track. I'm lucky that it's happening on my 2nd lap...

Since my shocks doesn't come with fixed welded-on bracket; I just used zip tie and it worked good. (It does rub the anadozied color off a little bit)
 
This is the only reason I don't run SS brake lines. I've heard of things like this happening too often. For racing, it's fine because you check stuff like that often. But for a daily driver where you may go a few years without really taking a hard look at brake lines, it's too risky IMO.

What brand were they?
 
How long have you've been using these? Doesn't matter anyway as this story tells me NOT to use other than OEM brake lines anyway for a street car. :eek:
Lucky guy!
 
NSXDreamer2 said:
I had such a problem before when I had my Tein RA suspension, the problem was, the brake bracket somehow got loose and turn, kinked the brake line.
Since my shocks doesn't come with fixed welded-on bracket; I just used zip tie and it worked good. (It does rub the anadozied color off a little bit)

I also have the TEIN-RA suspension and had the same problem. Have been using zips since then and yes, it does rub the color of the shocks a bit.
Now, I have put a piece of the good old duct tape between it :smile:

Can you post a photo of the entire line?

Ken, here is a picture of the brake line:
Brakeline2.JPG


goldnsx said:
How long have you've been using these? Doesn't matter anyway as this story tells me NOT to use other than OEM brake lines anyway for a street car.

These SS-lines have been on the car for about two years now.

Again, I have probably damaged the line when replacing the rotors. My SS-lines were installed begore I upgraded my brakes and to be honest, there were a little bit tight after fitting the bigger rotors. Getting the caliper of to change pads was a bit tricky but of line had very little play.

The other line is still fine, but this weekend I will replace it with my new SS-lines which, in fact, are slightly longer than the old ones.
 
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