Forza 5 - November 22, 2013 on Xbox One

[Midnight_Raven]

Well since Akira3d posted something for GT6 I guess to let some of you guys know Forza 5 is coming out in about 2 weeks on Xbox One.

Positive news is the game looks to be very high quality! Bad news is it had a lot of content cut for the sake of having to start over from scratch (200+ cars and 14 tracks). Luckily both the 1992 and 2005 NSX-R models made the cut. (I'm actually excited to see how the 1992 NSX-R will look because if any of you can recall the early NSX model they used in Forza 4 was not very accurate/horrible and was just a carried over 3d model from Forza 2!)

Another bummer is the Nürburgring Nordschleife was cut but is suppose to be release on January as DLC. Apparently they are laser scanning the track this time so that's why it's not included in the game. Additionally they will be releasing 6 DLC packs (1 every month) with 10 cars each so a total of 60 more cars will also be added but it will cost you to add these. First DLC pack includes Ferrari LaFerrari. Seems like they are nickle and diming us this time around...

Here is the trailer for the game that just came out about 2 days ago.
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Here is a comparison video from Forza 4 vs Forza 5.
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Here's the list of cars available on launch day.

Abarth
2010 500 esseesse

Acura
2001 Integra Type-R

Alfa Romeo
1965 Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale
2007 8C Competizione

AMC
1971 Javelin-AMX

Ariel
2013 Atom 500 V8

Aston Martin
1964 DB5
2006 Aston Martin #007 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
2008 DBS
2010 One-77
2012 Vanquish

Audi
1983 Sport quattro
2006 #2 Audi Sport North America R8
2006 RS4
2010 R8 Coupé 5.2 FSI quattro
2010 TT RS Coupé
2011 RS3 Sportback
2011 RS5 Coupé
2012 #1 Audi Sport Team Joest R18 e-tron quattro
2013 R8 Coupé V10 plus 5.2 FSI quattro
2013 RS7 Sportback
2013 S4


BMW
1973 2002 Turbo
1981 M1
1991 M3 E30
1997 M3 E36
2003 M5 E39
2005 M3 E46
2008 M3 E92
2009 #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2
2011 1 Series M Coupe
2011 X5 M
2011 Z4 sDrive35is
2012 M5 F10

Bugatti
2011 Veyron Super Sport

Buick
1987 Regal GNX

Cadillac
2011 CTS-V Coupe

Chevrolet
1960 Corvette
1967 Corvette Sting Ray 427
1969 Camaro SS Coupe
1969 Nova SS 396
1970 Camaro Z28
1970 Chevelle SS-454
1970 Corvette ZR-1
1970 El Camino SS 454
1990 Camaro IROC-Z
2002 Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
2002 Corvette Z06
2009 Corvette ZR1
2011 #4 Corvette Racing ZR1
2012 Camaro ZL1
2012 #28 Andretti Autosport DW12
2013 #1 Andretti Autosport Dallara DW12
2013 #12 Team Penske Dallara DW12

Chrysler
2012 300C SRT8

Citroën
2011 DS3 Racing

Dodge
1999 Viper GTS ACR
2005 SRT4 ACR
2008 Viper SRT10 ACR
2012 Challenger SRT8 392
2012 Charger SRT8

Eagle
1998 Talon TSi Turbo

Ferrari
1957 250 Testa Rossa
1962 250 GTO
1976 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 312T2
1984 GTO
1987 F40
1991 512 TR
1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1995 F50
1998 #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
2002 Enzo Ferrari
2003 Challenge Stradale
2007 430 Scuderia
2008 California
2010 458 Italia
2011 #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia
2011 599 GTO
2012 F12berlinetta
2013 LaFerrari [LaFerrari Car Pack DLC]

Ford
1966 GT40 MkII
1969 Mustang Boss 302
1985 RS200 Evolution
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1993 SVT Cobra R
1995 Mustang Cobra R
2000 Mustang Cobra R
2005 Ford GT
2007 Shelby GT500
2009 Focus RS
2011 #5 Ford Performance Racing FG Falcon
2011 F-150 SVT Raptor [VIP Car Pack]
2013 Focus ST
2013 Shelby GT500
2014 Fiesta ST

GMC
1991 Syclone

Hennessey
2012 Venom

Holden
2011 HSV GTS
2011 #1 Toll Holden Racing Team Commodore VE

Honda
1992 NSX-R
1997 Civic Type-R
2004 Civic Type-R
2005 NSX-R
2007 Civic Type-R
2009 S2000 CR
2013 #9 Target Chip Ganassi Racing Dallara DW12
2013 #15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Dallara DW12

Hyundai
2012 Veloster Turbo
2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

Infiniti
2011 IPL G Coupe

Jaguar
1961 E-Type S1
2012 XKR-S

Jeep
2009 Grand Cherokee SRT8

KIA
2011 cee'd

Koenigsegg
2011 Agera

KTM
2012 X-BOW R

Lamborghini
1967 Miura P400
1988 Countach LP5000 QV
1997 Diablo SV
2010 Murciélago LP670-SV
2011 Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
2012 Aventador LP700-4

Lancia
1982 037 Stradale
1986 Delta S4

Land Rover
2012 Range Rover Supercharged

Lexus
2009 IS F
2010 LFA

Lotus
1971 Elan Sprint
2009 2-Eleven
2012 Exige S
2013 #7 Lotus F1 Team E21

Maserati
2010 GranTurismo S

Mazda
1991 #55 Team MAZDASPEED 787B [VIP Car Pack]
1994 MX-5 Miata
1997 RX-7
2010 Mazdaspeed 3
2011 RX-8 R3
2013 MX-5 Miata

McLaren
1976 #11 Team McLaren M23
1993 F1
2011 MP4-12C
2013 P1

Mercedes-Benz
1954 300SL Gullwing
1990 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II
2005 Mercedes-Benz SLR
2011 SLS AMG
2012 C 63 AMG Coupé Black Series
2012 SLK 55 AMG
2013 G65 AMG

Mercury
1970 Cougar Eliminator

MINI
1965 Cooper S
2009 Mini John Cooper Works

Mitsubishi
1995 Eclipse GSX
1999 Lancer Evolution VI GSR
2004 Lancer Evolution VIII MR
2008 Lancer Evolution X GSR

Nissan
1970 Datsun 510
1971 Skyline 2000GT-R
1992 Skyline R32 GT-R V-Spec
1994 240SX SE
1997 Skyline R33 GT-R V-Spec
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2002 Skyline R34 GT-R V-Spec II
2003 Fairlady Z
2010 370Z
2012 GT-R R35 Black Edition

Oldsmobile
1969 Hurst/Olds 442

Pagani
2009 Zonda Cinque Roadster
2012 Huayra

Peugeot
2009 #9 Peugeot Sport Total 908
2011 308 GTI

Plymouth
1971 Cuda 426 Hemi

Pontiac
1969 GTO Judge
1969 Firebird Trans Am
1973 Firebird Trans Am SD-455
1977 Firebird Trans-Am

Renault
2003 Sport Clio V6
2010 Mégane Renault Sport 250

RUF
1987 CTR Yellowbird [VIP Car Pack DLC]
1995 CTR 2
2011 RT 12 S

Saleen
2004 S7

Scion
2012 tC

Shelby
1965 Cobra 427 S/C
1965 Cobra Daytona Coupe

Subaru
1998 Impreza 22B STi
2004 Impreza WRX STi
2005 Impreza WRX STi
2011 Impreza WRX STi
2013 BRZ

Toyota
1985 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex AE86
1994 Celica GT-Four ST205
1995 MR2 GT
1998 Supra RZ
2003 Celica SS-I
2013 GT86

TVR
2005 Sagaris

Vauxhall
2012 Astra VXR

Viper
2013 #91 SRT Motorsport GTS-R
2013 Viper GTS

Volkswagen
1963 Beetle
1984 Rabbit GTI
1992 Golf GTI 16v
1995 Corrado VR6
2003 Golf R32
2010 Golf R
2011 Scirocco R

 

[NetViper]

Can't wait but I am hoping my fanatec wheel will work.

 

[Midnight_Raven]

Rumors are going around saying Fanatec wheels won't work on the Xbox one...

 

[NetViper]

Rumors are going around saying Fanatec wheels won't work on the Xbox one...

That would really suck. Ms was behind them 100% for forza 4. I dont understand why Ms left them in the cold on Xbox one.

 

[Midnight_Raven]

Yeah I think they shot themselves in the foot with that decision. Considering those wheels cost hundreds of dollars and that if you get the clubsport stuff you are into it at least 500 dollars for the equpiment. To not offer support for that is like a slap in the face to their fanbase. Hoping that they do release a firmware update or patch to allow it in the future though.

 

[Moses]

NSX-R is at :49, looks good.

 

[vivanshah]

I preordered as soon as it came out. I also have a fanatec csr with clubsport pedals...really hoping for some good news soon but it's not looking good. Really sucks. Might consider selling the fanatec if I can get a good price for it.

 

[jaja]

I've still got high hopes for Fanatec to get their 360 products to work on the One.

But, until I hear it for sure, I'll be sticking with 4za. Like others, I've invested too much in my set up. Fingers Crossed!

 

[jaja]

Heart brake at 3:40

"Xbox 360 Wheels won't be compatible with Xbox One"

 

[NetViper]

Heart brake at 3:40

"Xbox 360 Wheels won't be compatible with Xbox One"

That is true, BUT there is hope fanatec will work with some type of dongle like it does with the PS3. We will learn more soon.

 

[robr]

Might want to think about when a good time is to sell the Fanatec's if it's not looking good. Once the masses hear, the resale value will plummet

PS, did I mention I'm in the market for a wheel setup for GT6? Just picked up a playseat for REALLY cheap $$$ (the guy threw in a Logitech Momo setup for free... but already thinking of upgrading). This is for my son for XMAS of course.... *cough*

 

[NetViper]

I will certainly sell mine if it doesn't work. I am hoping xbox one has a wheel that is half as good as the fanatic. I hear the thrustmaster ones suck. I really don't understand why ms would just abandon fanatec. I think ms should have bought them.

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So I played forza 5 Friday at the Microsoft store and it is amazing. I want it bad, but no way I'm playing it without a wheel.

 

[vivanshah]

I will certainly sell mine if it doesn't work. I am hoping xbox one has a wheel that is half as good as the fanatic. I hear the thrustmaster ones suck. I really don't understand why ms would just abandon fanatec. I think ms should have bought them.

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So I played forza 5 Friday at the Microsoft store and it is amazing. I want it bad, but no way I'm playing it without a wheel.

Unfortunately just 1 year ago I could have sold my setup for 5-600. Now I'd be lucky to get 250 for it going by what I see on ebay. So we've already missed the window for resale value.

 

[Cozmo]

Looking forward to it, wheel or not.

 

[akira3d]

Seems like they are nickle and diming us this time around...

As much as I'd like to knock them, I've actually been defending Turn 10's decisions to release with a lesser number of cars and circuits. I never liked the car models in Forza, preferring the accuracy of Gran Turismo's over Forza's...even GT5's standard models were more proportionally accurate than many of Forza's 4 higher detailed models. So I am glad to see that all of the cars in Forza 5 have been remodeled or are completely new...and look far more accurate than any they have included before. It must have been a really tough decision to not carry over their flawed version of Nordschleife...though I personally would have prioritized remodeling it over any other circuit given how much time I spend on it in the Gran Turismo series.

The fan base must realize it is very tough for any developer to match content and quality of such titles as a launch title for any new console. Look how much of a hit the Gran Turismo series with its debut on new consoles...and it came out nowhere near the launch of each PlayStation.


That said, it is absolutely fair for fans to complain about the lack of support for older wheels. This has been my favorite aspect of the GT series...I can still use the USB force feedback wheel I bought for PS2 with PS3 and PC. These type of controllers are among the most expensive you can buy, so why gimp their usability by limiting them to a single console. I have long had an issue with wheels on Microsoft consoles because it was Microsoft who decided to disallow USB force feedback wheels with the first Xbox, not support the Logitech wheels on Xbox 360, and then prevent users from bringing their 360 wheels to Xbox One.

Note that Sony has stated USB-based controllers from PS2 and PS3 are not compatible with PS4, but, unlike Microsoft, they left a loophole....stating that publishers can elect to support specific controllers with certain games. In other words, our current wheels may or may not still work whenever GT7 comes out on PS4. Given how many wheels within the Logitech Driving Force series were developed specifically for entries within the Gran Turismo series, I cannot imagine Sony wouldn't continue to support them on future titles.

 

[Midnight_Raven]

I'm actually not upset about the lower count or track count because of the reasons you just stated. I even mention they are remodeling the older body style NSX which was poorly modeled in all the previous iterations. So I am quite happy they decided to make high quality models for this generation.

The nickle and dime comment was more about the day one DLC for the LaFerrari car pack. I understand they are still working on it hence why it's not on the disk, but for it to be released on the same exact day the console launches and then being ask to pay for it that same day you just bought the full retail copy leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I personally think at least the 1st DLC pack should be free to all Day 1 and LE purchases of Forza 5 as a thank you from Turn10 and Microsoft to it's fans/early adopters. Would be a good gesture to the gaming community and start things off in better terms than how it is now.

Either way only one more week guys

 

[NetViper]

Posted today

XBox 360 Wheels on XBox One
So far there is no adapter solution to make an Xbox360 wheels compatible with Xbox One and it is unsure if this will be possible.
But there is a high chance that you can use your pedals, rims and shifters with a potential new Fanatec wheel for Xbox One although we cannot confirm a launch date yet. This will save you a lot of money and you can keep using the equipment you prefer.

 

[Ritesh]

Sorry for the Dumb Question: How much more realistic are control and the graphics and compared to Forza 3/4? I hate to buy a whole new console just for 1 game. All my son and I play is Forza and F1 on Xbox. I don't need it for anything else - Not Xbox live or Movies or Internet or music, etc etc.

 

[Aaron94T]

Sorry for the Dumb Question: How much more realistic are control and the graphics and compared to Forza 3/4? I hate to buy a whole new console just for 1 game. All my son and I play is Forza and F1 on Xbox. I don't need it for anything else - Not Xbox live or Movies or Internet or music, etc etc.

I was thinking the same thing, as I don't need a new console as I am not a big gamer. However i beat the previous Forza's including 4 and def got more than my monies worth out of them. To do Forza 5 right it will cost close to $800 and I am not sure it is worth it.

 

[NetViper]

Picked up Xbox one, but since no wheels are out and mine doesn't work, I didnt get Forza. I will wait until I can get a wheel.

 

[vivanshah]

forza & xbox are waiting on my doorstep...can't wait to get home!

 

[Aaron94T]

forza & xbox are waiting on my doorstep...can't wait to get home!

Too slow, I beat you home and snagged the box. Watch my youtube channel for the unboxing video. :biggrin:

 

[Midnight_Raven]

I just played about an hour of the game. I was able to buy a NA1-R and make it look like my NSX. Very happy with the new model for the pre-02 NSX. Unfortuneatly had to leave to go to work and now will need to wait until later tonight to play again.... it's gonna be a long night .

 

[Cozmo]

Unfortunately my copy of Forza won't be here until next Monday.

 

[vivanshah]

NSX looks incredible in game: