GOT RECKLESS TICKET! (need a lawyer?)

[2fast2c]

I got a ticket for a reckless doing 82 on 55 zone on a highway.
It was Halloween night.
He pulled me over and gave same old lecture about "Do you know how fast you were going?" I told him "Maybe 65?" He said "Do you think I was born yesterday? (He was a young prick, too.)
He also gave me a ticket for no front license tag.

What a shitty night. Whenever I drive my NSX, I just feel like they are out to get me. I got pulled over many times since I acquired NSX.
Whenever I drive my NSX, I'm so paranoid, cop will just pull me over.

Anyways, back to my main question? Do I need to hire a lawyer for a reckless ticket or not. I never had a reckless so I'm not sure.
Before NSX, my record is pretty clean. No speeding in a couple of years.

Thanks for your responses in advance.....:biggrin:

 

[Matt_337]

Re: GOT RECKLESS TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!(need a lawyer???)

With posts like these, get ready to get flamed.


In any case, getting a traffic lawyer will help. I got a racing ticket once on a group drive a few years ago and my lawyer got the racing part eliminated so I was just left with a speeding infraction.
Good luck

 

[zahntech]

Re: GOT RECKLESS TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!(need a lawyer???)

Yes you need a lawer and BTW your Prime name says a lot about why you get pulled over a lot:wink:

In tha last 2 years I have not been pulled over even once in the NSX

In my wifes damn V8 lexus?..that's another story:biggrin:

 

[RSO 34]

Re: GOT RECKLESS TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!(need a lawyer???)

First step: Get a lawer

Second step: Get a better attitude

Conspicuous by its absence is any denial that you were speeding. Why is it that the officer is a "young prick" but you are not simply a speeder without a front tag who got caught? I have defended many NSX owners on speeding tickets but I have to admit that I have never taken a case when the owner has had your attitude about getting caught breaking the law. If you did it, suck it up and hope for the best deal you can get but don't blame a police officer for doing his job.

 

[BioBanker]

Re: GOT RECKLESS TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!(need a lawyer???)

Reckless though? 82 in a 55 sounds more like a typical speeding ticket to me. Why did you end up with that charge? There has to be something else youre not telling us.

 

[Hal_396]

Re: GOT RECKLESS TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!(need a lawyer???)

Some states if your doing more than 20 mph over speed limit it is considered reckless!

 

[2fast2c]

Thanks, for all your inputs.

I guess I better find a lawyer then. How much should I expect to pay for this kind of thing. Once I again, this is the first time for me so I have no clue.

As far as an attitude issues, the cop pulled me over had an attitude problem.
I have no problem just getting a ticket. But how he handled the situation which I didn't like. He really didn't have to give me reckless just speeding ticket. If I got pulled over in my other vehicle, cop could have given me just speeding ticket but the fact it was NSX played a role in my opinion.

Anyways, thanks all.

 

[ak]

You probably need a lawyer. If you go to court without one, they'll ask you if you want one or not, and if you tell the judge no, unless you have a REALLY good argument, your license will mostlikely be suspended. That's what I have seen the last 2 times I went to fairfax court. In VA, 20mph over the limit can get you reckless, although not always.

In any case, the end of the month in northern VA is the worst time for speeding. There are cops hiding everywhere.

ak

 

[QWKSLVR]

This is ironic, your NSX is cursed, LOL! I believe you are the guy that bought Charley Sung's NSX judging from your avatar. Just do a search under his user name which happens to be "charleysung" and you will find a very lengthy thread about how he got pulled over and got a reckless on his way to Atlantic City, I believe this was on top of a prior reckless that was still on his record! See what he did. I'm certain he hired a lawyer (he's a lawyer himself)! VA is pretty strict, but it's completely subjective to the judge. Some go in to court w/o a lawyer and that automatically gets their violation reduced to just regular speeding. Others, not so lucky and get the book thrown at them- I believe reckless is up there w/ DUI and you could potentially have your license suspended for up to 6 months. What I'm saying is that it's a crap shoot, you can gamble or go in there w/ a lawyer who is well versed, knows the prosecutor/ judge and have your violation reduced as much as possible. As for Charley, he's back in the saddle now in his 996 TT!!! BTW, just a suggestion from the wise- don't drive your NSX on nights that are known to be major drunk fests: halloween, new year's eve, St. Patrick's Day, Cinco de Mayo, etc. Why would you? As if the NSX weren't already cop magnet. If you choose to and you're speeding, it's just asking for trouble.

 

[4AU4LIFE]

You were speeding, got pulled over, got a ticket and you complain.
The cops are pricks for doing their job. You have an NSX so they are looking for just that kind of car to pull over. Half the time a police officer doesn't even know what kind of car it is. They are looking for people, such as yourself, breaking the law. Nothing more.
What is it with speeders these days????
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78545

 

[btcog82]

Re: GOT RECKLESS TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!(need a lawyer???)

With posts like these, get ready to get flamed.

I'm runnin' a group buy on flame suits:wink:

 

[Floyd]

Indeed. How you act can greatly shape the outcome of the stop.

I got pulled over during one of those typical deals where the CHP followed right behind me waiting for me to do something stupid. Going mellow, I still got pulled-over.

Cop: Do u know why I pulled you over?
Me: Nope?
Cop: I think your exhaust is above the acceptable decible level.
Me: Ummm OK?
Cop: License
Me: Its in the trunk. (i had it in my backpack. Don't like cargo in passanger seat)
Cop: OK go ahead and get it. (now this is the first sign that this is not a hard stop. Officers usually don't like you getting out of the car). While he's writing my # on his palm (I was apperantly stop #4), he starts in with the questions.
Cop: What kind of exhaust is this?
Me: RM with Comptech headers.
Cop: How much horsepower does this thing have.
Me: Just shy of 300 as it sits.
Cop: These things are pretty light?
Me: Ya, all aluminum body and check out the suspension. It's all aluminum as well. (now I know I've got one of those stops where they just want to see the car. He's almost on his hands and knees with his head behind my front wheel. A bad position to be in if he really thought i was a bad guy.)

I think rolling with it and even indulging his curiosity about the car made the stop go smooth as glass. If I had gotten all pissy, I think the result would have been different and I'd be dealing with a fix it ticket on my exhuast and a no front plate ticket as well.

I don't think cops target the NSX as much as they just might target fast looking cars. Hell, the NSX looks fast in a parking spot.

Cops are just people in a uniform. And like people everywhere, there are good ones and bad ones. Just hope you get a good one and stay cool. You know...Like Fonzi

 

[dyee]

The two regulars are always going to chime in on a topic like this and they're going to lecture you (naughty, naughty).You got caught,you got caught. I see a compounding of the infraction by lying to the officer. He was dick back to you when you made that statement.Less said during the stop the better. I don't really say too much. Shoulder shrugging and nodding yes are the order of the day. We all know when we speed in the NSX. As a matter of fact I just got through speeding all the way from Riverside to Redondo Beach. I knew it. 80 mostly sometimes 90. I know I could get caught. No boooo hooo here. I agree with 2fast2c, reckless is extreme. Speeding, yes. Reckless....... debatable. Duplicate conditions (generally) and videotape the amount and flow of traffic. Drive an unknown speed and see if the judge can determine it to be reckless. Again, speeding yes, reckless..... debatable. You want to get the reckless off but can live with the speeding, right? Any kind of experimental evidence that is reasonble for how you were driving can be helpful. I got popped for a carpool lane (there was a catch) and fought it.The officer didn't show up. My demonstrations were sound and reasonable. She knew she was wrong.

Danny RED SR 71
REPEAL V.C. 22351
:smile: :biggrin: :wink:

 

[Zenky]

you deserve to get a ticket because of your stupidity and dangering others.

stop whining and go someplace.

no one will give you an advice.

*lock this thread.

 

[NSXGMS]

I got a ticket for a reckless doing 82 on 55 zone on a highway.
It was Halloween night.
He pulled me over and gave same old lecture about "Do you know how fast you were going?" I told him "Maybe 65?" He said "Do you think I was born yesterday? (He was a young prick, too.)
He also gave me a ticket for no front license tag.

What a shitty night. Whenever I drive my NSX, I just feel like they are out to get me. I got pulled over many times since I acquired NSX.
Whenever I drive my NSX, I'm so paranoid, cop will just pull me over.

Anyways, back to my main question? Do I need to hire a lawyer for a reckless ticket or not. I never had a reckless so I'm not sure.
Before NSX, my record is pretty clean. No speeding in a couple of years.

Thanks for your responses in advance.....:biggrin:

You were speeding and deserve the ticket. Whether or not you were reckless is a different issue.

If a reckless charge is as bad as it is here in CA and MA than you need a lawyer. Gonna cost you probably ~$800-$1,200 (figure 4-6 hours including court at ~$200/hour) but any good lawyer should be able to get you off if it was just a matter of speeding on an open highway as you claim.

I was stopped going over 100MPH by the CHP in the NSX once. For those who aren't familiar CHPs primary job is to write tickets. When I was pulled over I had a conversation similar to the one outlined by Floyd. I treated the officer with respect and the result was him stating "you were going too fast, even for a car like this, but you passed properly and did nothing unsafe otherwise. I'm going to knock it down to 99MPH because an over 100MPH ticket is different category."

ALWAYS treat the police with respect, show your hands, explain you have to reach into the glove box or trunk for your documentation before you do it, etc. These little things let them know you respect their job and they might cut you breaks if they can. You don't have to admit guilt either--just listen and don't argue.

 

[GOTTSPD]

Howdy 2fast2c. We met up in Westminster. It's always a major bummer getting stopped for a motor vehicle moving violation. You mentioned that he didn't have to give you a reckless ticket. While that's true, he could have defined your speed as lower than he'd actually clocked you, pursuant to § 46.2-862 of the VA Code, "a person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives a motor vehicle on the highways in the Commonwealth (i) at a speed of twenty miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limit or (ii) in excess of eighty miles per hour regardless of the applicable maximum speed limit." Thus, he didn't have a lot of "wiggle" room because it says you shall be guilty at 20 over, not that you may be guilty.

Get a lawyer and deal with what happens.

 

[Cairo94507]

This just kills me; I got a ticket and they are picking on me! I suggest no under 30 be allowed to buy an NSX. Oh, yeah and the cop was a prick....right. I would sell the car until you grow up and learn to accept responsibility for your juvenile behavior and oh, yeah, get ready to pony up at least $1500 for an attorney to try to save you sorry butt and keep your license. You attitude in the post says it all to most of us that have lived long enough to know better.
Funny, I have been driving nice, fast cars over 25 years and never been stopped. Guess that blows the nice car stop theory huh?
Sorry to rag on you, but really, you need to learn the old action/consequence paradigm before you really get into trouble.
Good luck with leeping your licence. I won;t even comment on doing that stupid stunt on Halloween night, onw of the most highly patrolled nights of a year.

 

[H-carWizKid]

you deserve to get a ticket because of your stupidity and dangering others.

stop whining and go someplace.

no one will give you an advice.

*lock this thread.

Are you sure? Because it looks like GOTTSPD, QWKSLVR, and ak each provided some valuable advice.

More likely your post is an example of this...

That kind of "Dog Pile" post is just useless IMO.

Everyone is a saint when criticizing someone else's mistake, yet there probably isn't even one of us who hasn't done something that was potentially destructive to others. Maybe it wasn't a DUI, or wreckless speed, but at some point we have all been that redneck screaming from the roof of the trailer "HEY YALL! WATCH THIS!" It's pointless to deny it.

I know that when people yell at me, or criticize me in the way the OP is being criticized, it gets about as far as the third "you're stupid" before I start seeing red, and go into defensive mode. At that point I am no longer paying attention to the message about my mistake. I am spending all my thought process on

1. What a dick you are
2. whether or not I can take you down in a fight
3. All the ways I can justify stomping your self-righteous guts out.

I am NOT thinking about how what I did was wrong until I am cleaning said guts off my boots...

Sometimes I wonder if all the self-righteousness you find on the boards isn't really just about a bunch of fragile ego's trying to make themselves look good rather than introduce an effective resolution.

I pose a question: If the sentiment is lost in the composition of a post because it is corrupted by the narcissism of it's author, and that post is rendered totally worthless because the recipient of the criticizm won't take away any corrective value, doesn't that post then become a sort of HTML Diarrhea of the mouth?

The point?

Good job to those kicking this man while he is down. Hopefully in this critique of your behavior you will find direction, and ultimately correct your actions. I'm not naming names, you know who you are if this post refers to you.

Enough is enough.

and now... The Lovely Cameron Diaz...

I think I will just repost that quote everytime I see ya'll kicking a member when he is down.

Philip

 

[Zenky]

...I think I will just repost that quote everytime I see ya'll kicking a member when he is down.

It looks like you put to much of your time typing these, lol. Why don't you cook him dinner while as well your at it. I don't have any sympathy for these fools, whining when they got a ticket. Innocent people die everyday because of these idiots.

Now if you wan't to support this moron, be my guess. This is one reason also NSXPrime don't condone "street racing stories"

 

[H-carWizKid]

It looks like you put to much of your time typing these, lol. Why don't you cook him dinner while as well your at it. I don't have any sympathy for these fools, whining when they got a ticket. Innocent people die everyday because of these idiots.

Now if you wan't to support this moron, be my guess. This is one reason also NSXPrime don't condone "street racing stories"

He wasn't street racing, he was speeding- many (I could very probably say ALL) of us speed. He wasn't even doing over 100, in fact his rate of speed is legal in some states (Texas in particular speed limit is up to 85 in places)

And you're right, I took a good piece of time to write it. Not just for this guy, but also for you, and for all the rest of the members who could use a little positive personal growth.

Maybe next time you will put a little more time into your writing- you know, to avoid misspelling "werdz", or getting them out of order, or maybe for content- since you very obviously didn't read the OP if you thought he was street racing, and endangering the lives of others.

This was a case of an overly oppressive speed law in the state of VA, not some kid out making a top speed run... As stated before, in parts of Texas you could go 3 mph faster and still be within the law on the highway.

You were too eager to jump on the self righteous bandwagon.

These boards are for reading
Posting is for contributing.

If you aren't doing either, perhaps you should re-evaluate?

Philip

 

[I1O101I]

I got a ticket for a reckless doing 82 on 55 zone on a highway.
It was Halloween night.
He pulled me over and gave same old lecture about "Do you know how fast you were going?" I told him "Maybe 65?" He said "Do you think I was born yesterday? (He was a young prick, too.)
He also gave me a ticket for no front license tag.

What a shitty night. Whenever I drive my NSX, I just feel like they are out to get me. I got pulled over many times since I acquired NSX.
Whenever I drive my NSX, I'm so paranoid, cop will just pull me over.

Anyways, back to my main question? Do I need to hire a lawyer for a reckless ticket or not. I never had a reckless so I'm not sure.
Before NSX, my record is pretty clean. No speeding in a couple of years.

Thanks for your responses in advance.....:biggrin:

Dude that sucks, I have a good lawyer in fairfax, James Young 7033528056. I have used him about 3 times already in the last 4 years and he has also helped some of my other friends as well.

Good luck

 

[Jin1976]

This is simply the case of an owner getting paranoid over some unlucky events. You'll get used to it after sometimes. I've been stopped three times and two tickets. Two for overspeeding and one for putting tint on the windows (illegal here). No problem encounter as I admit the faults are all mine. Don't forget to call the policeman Sir and smile. Some policeman may have a rough day which could contribute to his rough treatment. If you think he is abusing his power you could take note of his badge number and talk to his higher officer. That's what my friend did last time and I believe the policeman got enough lecture from his boss.

 

[rickysals]

82 MPH in a 55 zone in an NSX is not wreckless.

82 in a 55 in a SUV is much more wreckless. I'd lay $20 bucks down to bet that if he was a middle-aged woman driving her 3 kids to practice in an H2 there would have only been a ticket and no wreckless violation

If he was on an open highway not swerving, just moving... that's not wreckless. Period. I wish the police would go do something more benefitting society, like more drug busts, instead of collecting even more revenue with speeding tickets for going 6 over in some cases.

 

[ericwgnsx]

I would forget all of the "I'm gettin' a lawyer" stuff and take your lumps. You know you broke the law, the cop knows you broke the law, and everyone here knows you broke the law. You won't lose your license (maybe you'll get a "work only" driving suspension for a few months and have to pay a fine).

Also, some advice for next time:
The way I address a cop when I get pulled over goes something like this:

"Good afternoon, officer....yes, officer...Oh, I'm sorry...thank you, officer"

Some people do have a bug up their ass sometimes, but it can't hurt to be extra nice if it saves you some points on your license or knocks your fine down.
Good luck.
Also, try doing some track events with your NSX. Oftentimes, it satisfies the "need for speed" and you can go as fast as you want there, and no one can give you a ticket!

 

[95EagleAWD]

This just kills me; I got a ticket and they are picking on me! I suggest no under 30 be allowed to buy an NSX.

Why does age come in here?

I'm 22 and have got pulled over 3 times in the NSX; one ticket. Guess there should be an IQ test and background check to buy a 15 year old used car, eh?