Harmonic Balancer Pulley (Crankshaft Pulley) Can Come Apart

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The harmonic balancer pulley (also known as the crankshaft pulley) sits on the end of the crankshaft on the right side of the car. It's the big piece number 7 in this diagram:

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It's basically a big piece of rubber attached to a metal housing, and smooths out the operation of the crankshaft.

And yes, it can break. What happens is that the big rubber piece on the inside can come apart from its metal outer housing. What happens next can be unpredictable, but is usually catastrophic. In my case, as well as in Wei-Shen's, it started digging into the timing belt cover and then caused the timing to jump, which then bends the valves. Which means an engine rebuild, and big bucks to fix. I'm aware of a third case in which it went flying into the firewall. All three cars have seen extensive track use.

If it hasn't come apart, the harmonic balancer pulley lists for $267 and takes about an hour of labor to replace. Replacing it might be a good preventive measure for any car that has been tracked extensively.

If it does come apart, you too may be looking at an engine rebuild like mine*. If so, I suggest you have it done by a place that has experience rebuilding NSX engines. Right now Ted at Woodfield Acura is working on mine; he's done it before, as have the folks up at Acura of Brookfield.

In the future, I'm probably going to have the harmonic balancer pulley replaced every time I have the timing belt replaced, as preventive maintenance.

* EDIT: Here's an update on mine. We originally hoped that we could get away with rebuilding the top end (valves, etc). However, when Ted opened up the bottom end of the engine, he found that the pistons were damaged. To rebuild the engine would involve new pistons (those suckers are expensive!), re-ringing the entire engine, bearings, etc - big bucks. So I am instead buying a used engine and having it installed, which should cost less than a full rebuild, given all the work that would be needed. :frown: I am also going to have a new crankshaft pulley installed on the used engine. ;)
 
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Ken,

What was the mileage on your car when this happened and was it at the track?

Otto
 
Ken, did this recently happen to you? Do you attribute this failure to track use alone, or is it advisable to replace the part on any older/high mileage NSX?
 
Ken, I'm sorry to hear about this. :frown:

Do you know if this type of damage can be detected while the pulley is still installed?
 
You can add me to the list of this happening to me. Fortunately, I was going about 30mph or so when mine broke. No engine damage.
 
otto_joe said:
What was the mileage on your car when this happened and was it at the track?
65K miles, including 11K actual track miles. And yes, it happened at Putnam Park.

ChopsJazz said:
Ken, did this recently happen to you?
Yes.

ChopsJazz said:
Do you attribute this failure to track use alone, or is it advisable to replace the part on any older/high mileage NSX?
I'm not sure. The three cases I'm familiar with are all cars extensively tracked. Sounds like djdrock's was not track-related.

Autophile said:
Do you know if this type of damage can be detected while the pulley is still installed?
I don't know, but I doubt it. When it comes apart, it immediately starts rubbing into and wearing through other parts.
 
Here is what this condition looks like:
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pictured: standing on the left is the inner damper ring, which has become separated from the larger diameter outer crankshaft pulley, laying down. When these 2 separate, you are only a few miles from engine failure.
 

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I know of another failure on this side of the big water. Also major engine disaster.

Sorry to hear about your failure Ken, you always keep your car well maintained.
 
Man, I've never heard of this happening before. Very surprising to me. What a bummer! Thanks for sharing the experience though. I guess a new CP would be a small amount to pay for some insurance.
 
djdrock said:
You can add me to the list of this happening to me. Fortunately, I was going about 30mph or so when mine broke. No engine damage.

Okay, now I'm worried. Are we talking about the need for preventative maintainence?

And what were the initial signs of failure? Were there any signs, or had the timing belt cover been self destructing for a long period of time before the "catstrophic" failure.
 
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ChopsJazz said:
what were the initial signs of failure?
There were no symptoms prior to the catastrophic failure.

ChopsJazz said:
Were there any signs, or had the timing belt cover been self destructing for a long period of time before the "catstrophic" failure.
No and no.
 
EIFFEL said:
I have seen quite a few crankshaft pulley failure on older cars.(Not NSX) Now the NSX are 16 yrs old, It is a great idea to replace it before it breaks.
True this is not an uncommon thing. In most cases though crank pulley failures are induced by using the wrong kind of puller. The NSX doesn't suffer from this since no puller is required. Be careful when changing belts on other cars.
 
Daedalus said:
True this is not an uncommon thing. In most cases though crank pulley failures are induced by using the wrong kind of puller. The NSX doesn't suffer from this since no puller is required. Be careful when changing belts on other cars.

Terrible to see this! Sorry to hear about your car Ken. Our cars have always shared a bond being similar in age, miles, maintenance, and track worthiness. Definately a bummer.

Can anyone advise on how difficult this is to replace? Is it risky for the DIY to perform? Any special tools needed? Seems like we need a "Danoland" submission for this one team.
 
I've edited my first post to add an update on my engine's condition and the course of action I am taking (replacement engine)...
 
nsxtasy said:
I've edited my first post to add an update on my engine's condition and the course of action I am taking (replacement engine)...
That is the same conclusion I took. I wish you best of luck in your search for a new engine an d the replacement of the damaged one. Do take pictures of the proces?

Here is one of mine. A valve pinned in a piston:
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Sorry to hear about your misfortune, Ken. However, THANK YOU for posting this. I will make sure this is on the replace list for my next major service. Yet another reason I love Prime.
 
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