Headlights retractor engine not working properly

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I recently bought a 1994 Honda NSX EUDM and the retractor engine for the right headlight will keep running whenever I turn the car on. It's making noises as if you were flipping the pop-up lights up/down.

Could this be a bad relay? And is this relay located behind the right headlight aswell?
 
I recently bought a 1994 Honda NSX EUDM and the retractor engine for the right headlight will keep running whenever I turn the car on. It's making noises as if you were flipping the pop-up lights up/down.

Could this be a bad relay? And is this relay located behind the right headlight aswell?
On the US models the retractor relays for both sides are behind the right headlight, and the retractor cut relays are in one of the relay boxes under the hood. Should be similar. I would start doing the easy things like changing the relays around to see if the problem follows. Right to left and vice versa. Also check that there are no obstructions in the mechanism.
 
With the headlight in the up position, disconnect the negative battery terminal. Then proceed to remove the headlight cover. There's a manual knob that you can use to raise and/or lower the light. Remove this cover, and you'll see the knob. The cover just pulls off. 1750896601865.png
 
On the US models the retractor relays for both sides are behind the right headlight, and the retractor cut relays are in one of the relay boxes under the hood. Should be similar. I would start doing the easy things like changing the relays around to see if the problem follows. Right to left and vice versa. Also check that there are no obstructions in the mechanism.
Will try this, thank you
 
With the headlight in the up position, disconnect the negative battery terminal. Then proceed to remove the headlight cover. There's a manual knob that you can use to raise and/or lower the light. Remove this cover, and you'll see the knob. The cover just pulls off. View attachment 201871
The pop-ups work just as normal, it's just that the right headlight pop-up engine is making sounds as if it's on all the time.
 
Something is fishy! To be clear, the headlights are in the down position and you can hear the right retractor motor running when the headlight is down; but, you can only hear this when the ignition switch is in the run position (engine running)? Perhaps @Heineken can advise whether there is something unique to Euro spec cars; but, on North American spec cars the headlight system is 'HOT AT ALL TIMES' and is unaffected by the position of the ignition switch. Make absolutely sure that it is the retractor motor that you hear running and not the right side condenser fan motor running which can also be caused by a stuck relay which would match up with key on / key off symptom. So, need some clarity as to what exactly is going on.

If it is definitely the retractor motor and the Euro models have the key on / off provision then you likely need the ETM for the Euro models and perhaps Heineken can help there. If this is not some Euro specific thing then I think a previous owner might have been messing with things. It is also possible that there is a problem with a wiring short of some king that is causing retractor motor power up when the ignition is switched on.

If this were a North American spec vehicle the likely candidates would be a stuck relay as @comtec mentions or a problem with the limit / position switches in the retractor motor (or pinched / broken wiring to the limit switches. As comtec also notes, the first easy thing to do would be to pull the right side retractor relay and cut relay. This shows the position of the cut relays in relay box A
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These are the retractor relays
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Although checking relays is the easy thing to do (so do it first) my bet would be a problem associated with the position switch inside the retractor motor.

The very first thing to resolve is is it actually the retractor motor you hear and if so why the headlight operation is affected be the ignition switch position and whether this is a normal Euro thing or whether it something fishy with the wiring / a previous owner caused problem.
 
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I'm not aware of any changes related to the headlight motor wiring in EUDM vehicles.

Since my NSX is JDM I can't check but I left a question with a German owner and will be back with the results
 
Works the same way, no ignition needed.

Just wondering if it might be the headlight adjuster motor that he's hearing?

These do suffer from capacitor leakage and that causes them to run permanently. They are powered via the ignition switch.
 

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Headlight adjuster would definitely be a Euro thingy :).
 
Headlight adjuster would definitely be a Euro thingy :).

Works the same way, no ignition needed.

Just wondering if it might be the headlight adjuster motor that he's hearing?

These do suffer from capacitor leakage and that causes them to run permanently. They are powered via the ignition switch.
It's definetely the motor for the headlight, but I don't know what differentiates the headlight adjuster motor from the retractor motor?

However, I did some troubleshooting today. Tried to remove the 'Retra Motor' fuse 15A in the front of the hood, but that did nothing. Also tried to switch the relay for the left headlight, but it also did nothing. Motor just keeps going, headlights down/up doesn't matter. Seems like it gets power as long as the ignition is on..
 
The headlight adjuster motors are connected to a small selector near the armrest. They do fine-adjustment based on vehicle load (baggage, etc).

One of their error modes is to run continuously as soon as the ignition is turned on.
 
The headlight adjuster motors are connected to a small selector near the armrest. They do fine-adjustment based on vehicle load (baggage, etc).

One of their error modes is to run continuously as soon as the ignition is turned on.
Do you know how I fix it? It sounds like that, because it runs continously when iginition is on.
 
Kaz and me learned how to fix the electronic side about a week ago. The issue is, when they run continuously the gear can wear out which requires a replacement gear from another adjuster.
 
Kaz and me learned how to fix the electronic side about a week ago. The issue is, when they run continuously the gear can wear out which requires a replacement gear from another adjuster.
What would you recommend me doing? Would it be an idea to disconnect the cables to the motor so that it stops, albeit a temporary solution
 
If not required, you can disable them by disconnecting at the plug in the headlight assembly. Correct levels can be mechanically adjusted afterwards.

Depending on where you are located, the adjusters might be required to pass the vehicle check.
 
If not required, you can disable them by disconnecting at the plug in the headlight assembly. Correct levels can be mechanically adjusted afterwards.

Depending on where you are located, the adjusters might be required to pass the vehicle check.
I disconnected the plug to the adjuster motor, but when putting the headlight plug back and leaving the adjuster motor plug unplugged, the headlights didn't work on that side. Could it be a bad connection or does this plug actually have to be connected in order for the headlights to work normally? Picture is from a YT video to show which plug I mean.
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