HID installation

[whiteNSXs]

I just installed a $350 generic kit on my 1997 T. I sent in a post 2 days ago asking for advice but the post got loss due to the change of server. Here is my question again. My 6000k HID made the front marker lights very yellow. They are already the Raybrig Superwhite markers. Could anyone recommend for sure a pair of markers that will match the 6000K temperature? I need fact, not guessing please since I don't want to throw money away just trying out bulbs.
BTW, the installation is a total no brainer. I did have to modify the seal caps which were also very easy.
Thanks,
Steve

 

[LJSB]

What brand did you use?

 

[whiteNSXs]

The brand I used is called Super Vision. It actually comes in many different names. The bulbs are custom molded in 9006 configuration and the "gas chamber" matches the 9006 filament hence the correct beam pattern. I could have shortened the kit's wiring so that only a small hole needs to be drilled on the seal cap to let the wires go through. Instead I kept all wiring stock but drilled a big hole on the cap and glued on the end of a specimen cup to increase the volume of the cap to house all the extra wires. The new generation HID kits are just that simple. Why spend $600 for some so-called NSX specific kits which are actually just also generic kits with drilled caps? In fact, Catz makes a very good kit which you can get online for about $450 if you want to buy brand name. I certainly can use the $250 I saved to buy another set of HID H3 kit for my factory foglights in a year or so when the price continues to go down. For now, I am very happy with the lights.
Regards,
Steve

 

[Russ]

Could anyone recommend for sure a pair of markers that will match the 6000K temperature?

PIAA double white LED wedges match my 5800K HIDs perfectly.

 

[Zishan]

Good post!! Can you describe the color of the light? I'm looking into buying some HID's also. Ofcourse $$$ is a factor, but I was looking into the 8000k lights because I want to have the purplish/deep blue color effect. I understand from what I've read that just because HID lights that are rated higher, such as 8000k do not perform as well as some 4300k or 6000k, but I want to achieve that specific HID look.
Regards
Z

 

[MiamieNeSeX]

8000k lights parked next to an S2000. give great light but bluish tint. I installed them about 5 months ago and have had no problems, only compliments on the look.

 

[CiaoBoy]

The brand I used is called Super Vision. It actually comes in many different names. The bulbs are custom molded in 9006 configuration and the "gas chamber" matches the 9006 filament hence the correct beam pattern. I could have shortened the kit's wiring so that only a small hole needs to be drilled on the seal cap to let the wires go through. Instead I kept all wiring stock but drilled a big hole on the cap and glued on the end of a specimen cup to increase the volume of the cap to house all the extra wires. The new generation HID kits are just that simple. Why spend $600 for some so-called NSX specific kits which are actually just also generic kits with drilled caps? In fact, Catz makes a very good kit which you can get online for about $450 if you want to buy brand name. I certainly can use the $250 I saved to buy another set of HID H3 kit for my factory foglights in a year or so when the price continues to go down. For now, I am very happy with the lights.
Regards,
Steve

I just bought the 4300K (pure white, no blue tint) Catz HIDs in an online group buy for $410 + $20 shipping. According to UPS tracking, they are scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'll post how they look and how easy/hard the installation was.

-CiaoBoy

 

[whiteNSXs]

Everything is relative. Photographic flashes generally use 5600k to approximate the color temp of sunlight. 4300k is much whiter than the halogen bulb but "redder" than the 6000k kit that I have. If I put my car next to the 4300kit, my car will look very blue. I was shopping for mainly kits that are from 5000k to 6000k since these temps are closest to sunlight. For me, I will never consider higher K since it is closer to the violet region of the spectrum and you will not be able to see the red/orange/yellow/green objects on the road too well. In fact, if I have to do it again I will probably buy the Catz 4300k kit since I am afraid I might get pulled over with such white light
Steve

 

[Zishan]

Hmmm, anyone know what AUDI uses?? I love the way the AUDI xenon/HID headlights look. Purple/Deep Blue with those projection headlights look awesome!!!

I thought I read somewhere that the higher the rating, the more purplish the light becomes? Maybe I should do a search.
Z

 

[CiaoBoy]

Everything is relative. Photographic flashes generally use 5600k to approximate the color temp of sunlight. 4300k is much whiter than the halogen bulb but "redder" than the 6000k kit that I have. If I put my car next to the 4300kit, my car will look very blue. I was shopping for mainly kits that are from 5000k to 6000k since these temps are closest to sunlight. For me, I will never consider higher K since it is closer to the violet region of the spectrum and you will not be able to see the red/orange/yellow/green objects on the road too well. In fact, if I have to do it again I will probably buy the Catz 4300k kit since I am afraid I might get pulled over with such white light
Steve

I read that sunlight is 5250K, but it is slightly blue in actuality. 4100K is pure white. Less than 4100K starts to get yellowish, like halogens. More than 4100K starts to get blueish.

-CiaoBoy

 

[MiamieNeSeX]

There was a post that went into detail about the differences in the lights and their temperatures. I am sure you can find a happy medium between function and looks

 

[CiaoBoy]

Hmmm, anyone know what AUDI uses?? I love the way the AUDI xenon/HID headlights look. Purple/Deep Blue with those projection headlights look awesome!!!

I thought I read somewhere that the higher the rating, the more purplish the light becomes? Maybe I should do a search.
Z

Yeah, higher the kelvin number, more purplish, but actually less brightness and more glare. If you think purple lights look cool though, that's your choice.

Consumer Reports just did a comparison of various headlights. Interestingly enough, it wasn't as simple as all of the OEM HID lights beating the OEM halogen lights. In fact, one of the worst headlights happened to be the HID lights on the Audi TT.

One of the best was the Mazda Miata's halogen projector lights. Having a 2001 Miata in the stable, I can attest to the Miata's lights as being quite superb.

-CiaoBoy

 

[whiteNSXs]

FoYoAss,
You will not go wrong with 6000k. Any temp higher will be too blue/purple and you will not be able to see jack and run higher risks of being pulled over. With the 6000k, you are whiter/bluer than 99 % of all cars out there with halogen bulbs. Trust me, I am not an engineer but I did VERY well in ALL my science classes. English is my weakest subject.

Steve

 

[Zishan]

Cool, thanks for the info. I will start doing some more research when I get more serious about getting HID's. For now, it's more a learning experience.
I've seen the SOS kit in person and can say that is definately lights up the road. But it doesn't have the Audi look. I could be wrong because I haven't seen them side to side.

 

[MiamieNeSeX]

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6427&highlight=hid

 

[Zishan]

Thanks Miami, guess Chris at SOS answered my question.... there goes that idea.

Chris, does the kit that you sell give off light identical to the Audi hid lights? If I were to see a NSX with your kit installed at night might I mistake it for an Audi?

Hi Steve --

The color is very similar. The NSX application puts out slightly less of the prism like red and purplish flashes that you would see with say an Audi. This is however more due to the headlight focal design vs. the actual electronics.

Cheers,
-- Chris

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[ANYTIME]

PIAA double white LED wedges match my 5800K HIDs perfectly.

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