Honda NSX - High Performance Mediocrity

That sounds like something a college student without much knowledge about the automotive industry would write. And did.
 
Probably next in line for a job at the Acura design studios. :tongue: :biggrin:
 
The biggest problem with that article is the title. He doesn't say the NSX is mediocre. He really says the NSX is perceived by some as mediocre.

But the article meanders and has no clear message. He has some work to do if he wants to become a good journalist.

I will say that Honda will never attain the levels of respect given to the Germans if they stay with FWD. I'm very pessimistic that the NSX replacement will be an edgy Lexus, not a real sports car.
 
The biggest problem with that article is the title. He doesn't say the NSX is mediocre. He really says the NSX is perceived by some as mediocre.

But the article meanders and has no clear message. He has some work to do if he wants to become a good journalist.

I will say that Honda will never attain the levels of respect given to the Germans if they stay with FWD. I'm very pessimistic that the NSX replacement will be an edgy Lexus, not a real sports car.

I think it might as well. The new GTR will really be the deciding factor i think for most of the Japanese manufacturers. If it sells well and people line up to pay sticker price then i am sure Honda and Toyota will throw their hats back into the super car ring but if the GTR flops at retail then i think it will be a VERY long time before Japan tries to build another true sports car for the U.S. market.

BTW, i do think the new GTR is ugly but would love to take one for a spin.
 
That sounds like something a college student without much knowledge about the automotive industry would write. And did.

It is a college student....It’s at the bottom of the PAPER (Article). We all have to start some where. He does ramble allot and keep you guessing what the point is....It has some okay moments, but its a subjective opinionated piece without TECHNICAL DATA or RAW DATA---Then he would have to ref some other source ...............I was a little confused with Title also, But I think I understand his point (comme ci comme ca)....That’s why I read it...


At least he doesn’t BASH the Car....Sorta seem like he was saying shame on the Lambo, Fearri, etc....With their tradition, cost....etc....But letting a v6 Honda Keep up with them....

I have heard it said a thousand times that Fearri and Lambo count on rich Doc, Lawyers, Athletes, etc....to buy the cars so they can use the money to build better race cars....??? By no way do I agree with it totally. I do not know the industry, biz, etc.... I just love to Wash and Drive my car..... But the Prospective is not a typical read that you would see about the car....
 
even though hes writing about the nsx, i could not keep going after the third or so paragraph,



i dont think car and driver will be hitting him up for a job anytime soon:tongue: or any other decent car oriented anything
 
I'm very surprised at how rambling and disjointed the piece is. His thesis isn't clear, his apparent, multiple "subjects" are restated several times and there's no presentation of backing facts, direct examples, stats or evidence of any kind.

This is all stuff learned in junior college English 102. Please remind me not to send my kids to SUNY Farmingdale. :frown:

The piece really comes off like a post in the Second Generation forum on Prime, not at all like a professionally written, formal commentary article.
 
The biggest problem with that article is the title. He doesn't say the NSX is mediocre. He really says the NSX is perceived by some as mediocre.

I agree. I was very thrown off by that. He perhaps could have simply used a question mark at the end--"...High Performance Mediocrity?" To let readers know that the piece is addressing the "perceived mediocrity" he writes about. The title seems as if that's his thesis which it is not (especially since I'm not sure what his thesis really is.)

If he wants to continue writing he desperately needs to take a few English journalism courses (and retake English 102.)

But I suppose that's just the former editor in me. :wink:
 
I will say that Honda will never attain the levels of respect given to the Germans if they stay with FWD.

I'd venture to say that people that really know cars have no respect for German cars. Their perceived respect is fabricated by marketing and propagated by people who buy these pieces of junk and believe they are state of the art automobiles. The Germans export large numbers of their crap here to sell to ignorant Americans. But as the saying goes, image is everything.
 
BMW crapppppp? compared to what car---- a 3 series vs a Malibu vs Altima vs g35..... Never heard that one...I have owned 7 bmw, and have not had as many issue with all 7 as I have had with JAG (Ford) and Sport Trac( ford)....Now all my freinds with BENZ (The 100k plus cars are always in the shop).....Maybe I am BIASED about BMW.....But if you do the sched man.....They can last forever.... If you just put gas and oil in the car....Yes you may have issues that cost an arm and a leg. Thats why its best to get the Extended Warranty....And their are allot of BMW shade tree mechanics that can do good work for 1/4 the cost.....

I have a 1986 325e 289k miles and still gets 30 mpg.....

Sorry got off topic...
 
I'd venture to say that people that really know cars have no respect for German cars. Their perceived respect is fabricated by marketing and propagated by people who buy these pieces of junk and believe they are state of the art automobiles. The Germans export large numbers of their crap here to sell to ignorant Americans. But as the saying goes, image is everything.

Exactly how many German cars have you owned?

My last 4 DDs were German (Audi's) and they are some of the finest specimens anywhere.

Show me a 4 door DD from Japan that could put up with the likes of an RS6?
 
Greetings

I don't think he is dis'ng German cars in general, just complaining about how much it costs to maintain one. I loved the 2 that I owned, just hated the amount of money it cost to keep them going -- also hated the closest dealership when getting mine fixed under warranty. One of my buddies has two BMW's -- 750 and 740 -- he calls the "The Ultimate Maintenance Machine".

I do like Audi's -- I have very fond memories of driving an A8 around and across German on the Autobahn. I have never owned an Audi -- stigma in German is that "Old Men" drive Audi's -- MB's are "German Taxi's". That from former coworkers in Germany. I hope Audi decides to import the new RS6.

Cheers,
Martin
 
I'd venture to say that people that really know cars have no respect for German cars. Their perceived respect is fabricated by marketing and propagated by people who buy these pieces of junk and believe they are state of the art automobiles. The Germans export large numbers of their crap here to sell to ignorant Americans. But as the saying goes, image is everything.

Say what? A brand new 325i (base model) is the greatest value right now. Brilliantly engineered for the autobahn with craftmanship second to none for a $32K car. I guess I must be one of those ignorant Americans. Confession, I'm a BMW addict. Purchased 3 Beamers over the past eight years. German engineering rocks.
 
Greetings

I don't think he is dis'ng German cars in general, just complaining about how much it costs to maintain one. I loved the 2 that I owned, just hated the amount of money it cost to keep them going -- also hated the closest dealership when getting mine fixed under warranty. One of my buddies has two BMW's -- 750 and 740 -- he calls the "The Ultimate Maintenance Machine".

I do like Audi's -- I have very fond memories of driving an A8 around and across German on the Autobahn. I have never owned an Audi -- stigma in German is that "Old Men" drive Audi's -- MB's are "German Taxi's". That from former coworkers in Germany. I hope Audi decides to import the new RS6.

Cheers,
Martin


I agree with that statement.....When mine are out of warranty I sell....745 Brake Job if done by the Dealer is darn near 2k......

3 series brake job is pushing a 1000........Due to they change the rotors and dont turn them....I turned mine once and boy my car was pulling like i needed an alignment.....
 
Say what? A brand new 325i (base model) is the greatest value right now. Brilliantly engineered for the autobahn with craftmanship second to none for a $32K car. I guess I must be one of those ignorant Americans. Confession, I'm a BMW addict. Purchased 3 Beamers over the past eight years. German engineering rocks.

I had a loaner 325.....I was impressed. I actually got out of the car to make sure it wasnt a 330 or 335.....It pulled hard in every gear. I cant imagine how the 335 drives...
 
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