I got some new wheels on ordered and will need tires real soon.Debating on if i should go with Nitto 555 or BFG KDW2. Or should i just go back with Falken 452? Which is what i had on my ADV's. What do you all think?
Nitto 555 or BF Goodrich KDW2?
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You're referring to three different "ultra high performance (UHP) summer tires", and I wouldn't recommend ANY of them on an NSX. There are so many better alternatives with better performance. For the best performance in a street tire, you can get one of the "extreme performance summer tires" such as the Dunlop Star Spec, Bridgestone RE-11, Yokohama AD08, etc. And if you are willing to trade off a little bit of performance for better treadlife, the "maximum performance summer tires" are still way better than the UHP tires; the Continental ExtremeContact DW in particular is much better than the UHP tires in almost every way - dry grip, wet grip, etc - and the price and treadlife are almost identical.
Tell us what size wheels you have and we can give you a more specific recommendation.
Tell us what size wheels you have and we can give you a more specific recommendation.
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Ken I started doing some research on the Continental DW and there are alot of people complaining about extreme noise after the tire hits ~ 6k miles wear. Saying it was so bad they replaced the tires. I'm not sure how much to read in to this. I'm use to noisy tires anyway, I use to run my r comps on the street.
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Ouch. The problem with 18"/19" wheels is that tire availability is so limited. I've known numerous NSX owners who replaced them with 17"/17" or 17"/18" for that very reason. I hope he/she didn't get another set of 18"/19". Otherwise your best bet in those sizes is the Sumitomo HTR Z III, which is the only max performance summer tire available, AFAIK.
But I'm guessing the OP has something else, because the NT555 isn't available in 215/35-18.
Thanks for the report. FWIW, many tires get much noisier as they start wearing down close to the treadwear indicator bars. I'm not sure whether the DW is any worse than any other tire in this regard.
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18x8.5/19x10.5
215/35/18 front - 265/30/19 rear
Looking for a long lasting tire. It's a sport car and weekend rider so noise is not an issue. It seem like the cheaper the tires the long lasting you will get out of the tires? Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought you get what you paid 
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I don't want to spend $800 to $1000+ for some high end tires like Bridgestone or Pirelli's and only get 2 or 3 thousand mile when I can spend $400 to $600 for some cheap tires and get 5 to 10 thousand+ miles out of it. Does that sound right to you'll?
Nitto NT555 and BF Goodrich KDW2 is a little up there too. Do they last for what's they cost? After reading some post on here I'm not sure I want to go there and not get my moneys worth.
Falken's 452 is ok, very sticky tires. I'm not racing so don't really care about sticky tires.
Any suggestion!?:smile:
?I don't want to spend $800 to $1000+ for some high end tires like Bridgestone or Pirelli's and only get 2 or 3 thousand mile when I can spend $400 to $600 for some cheap tires and get 5 to 10 thousand+ miles out of it. Does that sound right to you'll?
Nitto NT555 and BF Goodrich KDW2 is a little up there too. Do they last for what's they cost? After reading some post on here I'm not sure I want to go there and not get my moneys worth.
Falken's 452 is ok, very sticky tires. I'm not racing so don't really care about sticky tires.
Any suggestion!?:smile:
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I'm well aware of that. But with a 340 tread wear this should be a 20k mile tire (non NSX). 6k miles should be 2/3 of the tread remaining. And people are replacing the tire because of the noise - this not something that is common compared to other tires with even 1/2 tread.
Not according to the specs on their website. But they could be wrong, I suppose.
Not true. Not at all.Looking for a long lasting tire. It's a sport car and weekend rider so noise is not an issue. It seem like the cheaper the tires the long lasting you will get out of the tires? Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought you get what you paid
As a general rule, tires that last a long time have worse performance than tires that don't - the highest performance tires generally don't last as long - but there are exceptions, such as the Continental ExtremeContact DW mentioned above (which doesn't come in the sizes you need). There is even less correlation between performance and price; many high-performance tires cost more than those with lower performance, but there are plenty of exceptions to that generalization. That's why you need to look at specific make/models when selecting a tire.
It's up to you to decide what to trade off - performance, price, treadlife, etc. But as noted above, the really high end tires just aren't available in 18"/19" sizes, so they're not even an option. (If you had 17"/18" wheels, for example, you could get those Continentals for about the same price and would last about as long as the lower-performance tires you're considering.)
Well, the Falken FK452 is a cheap, low-performance tire. I don't recommend it. Even if you aren't racing, why get an NSX if you're going to then degrade its performance by putting cheap, crappy tires on it? Even if you aren't racing, most people care about things like how long it will take to stop the car in an emergency. Especially considering how much it would cost to fix the NSX if you get in an accident.
For your 18"/19" wheels, I'd get the KDW2 or the Sumitomo rather than the FK452.
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They dont make the size i need in Sumitomo.
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The Continental DWS is an all season, you don't want that.
DW means dry and wet. DWS means dry, wet and snow. It's an all season tire and i don't want that? how come?
Maybe because you live in Houston where you only have two seasons - Hot and Wet. No snow. :biggrin:
I understand you want a long lasting tire and willing to give up handling to get it. I totally understand. But getting an all-season for a sports car is really going too far the other direction. The car will feel very mushy as all seasons tend to have very soft side walls and will probably squeal if you ever push it around corners at anything more than a moderate pace. Handling will be GREATLY reduced, braking distances will be GREATLY increased.
BTW: Will a 8.5" wide rim on the front even fit without sticking out past the fender? I thought you had to have a wide-body front to run anything wider than a 8".
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A 8.5" front will fit a stock bodied NSX, though the 215/35/18 tires are extremely stretched on them.
A few people run them. Those that have those CCW SP16a wheels and RYU to name a few.
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8.5 works fine in the front with the 215/35-18 tire. Also depending on your offset too.:wink:
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I had Falkens 452 on my 8.5 ADV'S and it was 215/35-18 . I dont think it was that extreme of a stretch. Just a bit stretch.:smile:
I had Falkens 452 on my 8.5 ADV'S and it was 215/35-18 . I dont think it was that extreme of a stretch. Just a bit stretch.:smile:
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BFG KDW2 well have to do. I'm gonna go ahead and just order them.I think with the BFG KDW2 I will get some lasting, performance and with the price it cost isn't so bad.BFG KDW2 it is :smile:
Thanks everyone for there input :wink:
Thanks everyone for there input :wink:
As Jim noted, the DWS is an all-season tire. Here's a bit more of an explanation of why you don't want that. All-season tires are designed to be a compromise, for people who use the same tires in winter snow as well as summer heat. In winter, they do okay on snow - not as well as a winter tire designed for those conditions, but better than summer tires. In summer, they do okay on dry and wet pavement - not as well as summer tires, but better than winter tires do. It's a compromise that works for people who have to use the same tires in snow as they do in warm weather. They don't make sense for a sports car, especially one that will never see snow.
That's just not true. There are some tires that offer better performance without any sacrifice in treadlife or price. Not always, but sometimes. The KDW2 and HTR Z III will both give much better performance than the crappy FK-452, with comparable treadlife. Prices are slightly higher, but not by much. (Note, though, that part of the reason you're paying so much for tires is the big 18"/19" wheels. In 17"/18" sizes, there are less expensive options with similar performance.)
They make the Sumitomo HTR Z III in a 215/35-18 front and 275/30-19. With a 215/35-18 front, 275/30-19 works just as well on the rear as 265/30-19. In fact, more people with 18"/19" wheels on an NSX use 275/30-19 than 265/30-19. Either one will work.
Mmmm... not really. They'll look slightly stretched, but that's about it. Most 215/35-18 tires are approved for mounting on wheels up to 8.5" wide. Not a big deal IMHO.
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NVM. I made up my mind. I'm gonna order the BFG KDW2. :biggrin:
Thank you everyone! :smile:
Thank you everyone! :smile:
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