O/T Have any of you been subjected to Internet Fraud?

[Bigglezworth]

Making no assumptions for how knowledgable any of the fellow board members here are, I'm curious on how many people have been on the receiving end of Internet Fraud. I was boned on the RS6.com forum I chat with other fellow Audi owners on a few months ago and it made for my second time getting shafted in 10 years of Internet dealings. I consider myself as strong as it gets for "spotting the not" and have caught 100's of scams without getting drawn in. While my latest experience wasn't a "scam", it was still fraudulent in that after numerous communications via email and even via phone calls, I never received the item and have little to no recourse to recover funds (Australia)....

Anyway, just curious.

Tim

 

[Sarge]

Its happened to even the best of us. But then im nobody, certainly not the best of anything, so I cant say its ever happened to me :biggrin:

 

[Tom239]

This may not be the kind of fraud you had in mind, but it is fraud:

I own a few domain names. Spammers impersonate me all the time,
that is they send mass e-mailings with [email protected] as the return address
(where y.com is one of my domain names). Because lots of the email
addresses they send to are out of date, I get the return messages
('no one at that address'). Sometimes thousands come in per hour.
Yes, I have them automatically filtered out, but it still sucks that people
are misrepresenting themselves as being at one of my domain names.

 

[Bigglezworth]

This may not be the kind of fraud you had in mind, but it is fraud:

I own a few domain names. Spammers impersonate me all the time,
that is they send mass e-mailings with [email protected] as the return address
(where y.com is one of my domain names). Because lots of the email
addresses they send to are out of date, I get the return messages
('no one at that address'). Sometimes thousands come in per hour.
Yes, I have them automatically filtered out, but it still sucks that people
are misrepresenting themselves as being at one of my domain names.

I was speaking of scam, not spam. lol I filter out lots of spam stuff yes.

 

[Tom239]

I was speaking of scam, not spam. lol I filter out lots of spam stuff yes.

I brought it up because it's worse than just getting spam. As I said, it is fraud.

By pretending to be from my domain names, the spammers sully my reputation. That helps put my domain names on blacklists, i.e. it makes legit email I send more likely to be ditched by other people's spam filters.

 

[95ttht]

See my sig.

 

[Bigglezworth]

Well I'm making some minor progress. Here's what I've been able to scratch up so far.

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My transaction was for $1,000.00USD and was a wired transfer to an Australian Bank.

Real Name: Jordan Vlotis

Known Username(s): DESCR8, TIKUF, GR8NES, MR_RB, Skyline95, GTR_Junkie, NissanFreak, BlownNboosted, CRACKD, RB Engineering, quick500
Names Used: Jordan Vlotis, George Vlotis, Kirrin Vlotis, 'Joe', 'Joe Savva', Nathan Vlotis, Nathan Arthur, Sam, Jerry

Active on these forums: Skylines Australia, Calais Turbo, GTROUK, SDU, OzAudi.com (Banned from RS6.com)

Email I contacted him though: [email protected] from the RS6.com forum.

This is the info I used to perform a bank transfer:
Jordan Vlotis
37 Austin Avenue
Croydon NSW 2132
Australia

+61 430 214445

Bank Details:
ANZ Bank
BSB: 012245
ACC: 522996423
SWIFT CODE: ANZBAU3M
Acc Name: Jordan Vlotis

Other particulars I've been forwarded from a user on other forum where the scams have been going on.

Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]

Mobile: 0424 519 298
Mobile: 0419 818 795
Mobile: 0424 995 627

Drivers Licence No: 12808522
Bank Details: Bank: St. George Bank, Account No: 1372932043, BSB: 112 879
Bank Details: Bank: CBA, Account No: 028014668 , BSB: 062-105
Bank Details: Bank: ?, Account No: 010323375 , BSB: 062-128

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NSX Prime is a wealth of knowledge with the type of members who drive our fine rides. Can anyone provide any insight on how I can take this further and possible get this dude? I'm going to be calling the local Police Fraud group here this afternoon after I get myself going for the day. My first lazy day in many weeks, so I'm not really moving all that fast yet.

Tim

 

[scorp965]

Tamoske

I also sold a watch to an eBay member in France, who claimed non-receipt, when the tracking info was botched by the French post office. Paypal refunded his cash, the watch disappeared, the US post office passed the blame to the French post office and refused to pay on the insurance, and the French post office agreed to cover the loss, but their indemnity was limited to $20 bucks, on an $1800 Breitling.

 

[docjohn]

Well I'm making some minor progress. Here's what I've been able to scratch up so far.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My transaction was for $1,000.00USD and was a wired transfer to an Australian Bank.

Real Name: Jordan Vlotis

Known Username(s): DESCR8, TIKUF, GR8NES, MR_RB, Skyline95, GTR_Junkie, NissanFreak, BlownNboosted, CRACKD, RB Engineering, quick500
Names Used: Jordan Vlotis, George Vlotis, Kirrin Vlotis, 'Joe', 'Joe Savva', Nathan Vlotis, Nathan Arthur, Sam, Jerry

Active on these forums: Skylines Australia, Calais Turbo, GTROUK, SDU, OzAudi.com (Banned from RS6.com)

Email I contacted him though: [email protected] from the RS6.com forum.

This is the info I used to perform a bank transfer:
Jordan Vlotis
37 Austin Avenue
Croydon NSW 2132
Australia

+61 430 214445

Bank Details:
ANZ Bank
BSB: 012245
ACC: 522996423
SWIFT CODE: ANZBAU3M
Acc Name: Jordan Vlotis

Other particulars I've been forwarded from a user on other forum where the scams have been going on.

Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]

Mobile: 0424 519 298
Mobile: 0419 818 795
Mobile: 0424 995 627

Drivers Licence No: 12808522
Bank Details: Bank: St. George Bank, Account No: 1372932043, BSB: 112 879
Bank Details: Bank: CBA, Account No: 028014668 , BSB: 062-105
Bank Details: Bank: ?, Account No: 010323375 , BSB: 062-128

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

NSX Prime is a wealth of knowledge with the type of members who drive our fine rides. Can anyone provide any insight on how I can take this further and possible get this dude? I'm going to be calling the local Police Fraud group here this afternoon after I get myself going for the day. My first lazy day in many weeks, so I'm not really moving all that fast yet.

Tim

There is a pretty active Austalian forum on prime,did you ask some of our nsx owners in australia to check that address?

 

[DucTerry]

My business is just starting to get hammered with a slew of chargebacks on orders shipped to Gaza. What really sucks is the CVV2 and Billing Address verification matched on every transaction and the Merchant account is still pinning this all on us. Apparently these guys are buying card info and going on huge sprees. The last guy I talked to had 10k in unauthorized charges all shipped to the same name/addy I shipped to. Of course, we shipped via USPS Priority so no signature. Removed that option pretty quickly, leaving FedEx as the only option, effectively killing international sales because FedEx is about 2x the cost.

 

[Cozmo]

My business is just starting to get hammered with a slew of chargebacks on orders shipped to Gaza. What really sucks is the CVV2 and Billing Address verification matched on every transaction and the Merchant account is still pinning this all on us. Apparently these guys are buying card info and going on huge sprees. The last guy I talked to had 10k in unauthorized charges all shipped to the same name/addy I shipped to. Of course, we shipped via USPS Priority so no signature. Removed that option pretty quickly, leaving FedEx as the only option, effectively killing international sales because FedEx is about 2x the cost.

Don't you love that? The CC companies give us merchants absolutely no real tools to deal with this sort of thing, and when the sh!t hits the fan we're the ones that are liable. CVV #s are useless when they're being stolen right along with the card info. There really is no way to prove with any certainty that any particular order isn't fraudulent.

I won't even ship things to anywhere outside the US, it just isn't worth it. I also find a lot of bogus orders where people attempt to have them shipped to freight forwarding companies (usually in florida) where I assume they'll be redirected to some other country.

 

[DocL]

I've never been scammed on an internet transaction. However, I only buy from sellers with a brick and mortar store and if I buy off of ebay I limit my purchase to $200. I've never attempted to sell anything because I know how easy it is to get scammed by some jerkoff.

 

[NSX_Dreamer]

I've been scammed aplenty of times by rebates. I hate doing rebates!!!

 

[DucTerry]

Don't you love that? The CC companies give us merchants absolutely no real tools to deal with this sort of thing, and when the sh!t hits the fan we're the ones that are liable. CVV #s are useless when they're being stolen right along with the card info. There really is no way to prove with any certainty that any particular order isn't fraudulent.

I won't even ship things to anywhere outside the US, it just isn't worth it. I also find a lot of bogus orders where people attempt to have them shipped to freight forwarding companies (usually in florida) where I assume they'll be redirected to some other country.

Almost anything in Doral, Fl or Springfield Gardens, NY is a forwarder. We ship every single item to them via Fedex because the rate is dirt cheap with a business addy and with a signature it is a lot easier to win a dispute.

Checked out your knife site. Lotsa goodies, I love my spyderco's and am kind of hunting for an Embassy.

 

[Cozmo]

Almost anything in Doral, Fl or Springfield Gardens, NY is a forwarder. We ship every single item to them via Fedex because the rate is dirt cheap with a business addy and with a signature it is a lot easier to win a dispute.

Checked out your knife site. Lotsa goodies, I love my spyderco's and am kind of hunting for an Embassy.

Unfortunately the knife store is pretty neglected. I really need to invest some time and money into it.

I do some GeoIP stuff as well and find that most bogus orders are going through an anonymous proxy. Nice try jerks!

 

[netfreak]

I attempted to buy some airsoft stuff from a local site which promised that all the product was within Canada so no border issues. Sent my money, waited a bit, was then told the stuff was stuck at the border. Owner then shut down the business and left the province. I never forget a name, so when I get the chance I will go collect.

Around the same time, I was buying an MSD ignition system from a Yahoo based store. Little did I know, whoever was running it seems to have shut down but left the site up. Yahoo took my money and by the time I realized they shafted me, it was too late for a chargeback.