PM from Tamoske!

[davidf]

I got this from Tamoske this morn. Some nerve, LOL
SORRY MY FRIEND COULD YOU HELP ME?
I THINK ONE MEMBER RIPPED ME FOR 15K$ THESE WHERE TO RETURN HALF TO THE GB MEMBERS . WHATT TO DO IF I POST EVERYTHING HONEST PEOPLE WILL NOT BELIEVE ME THEY WILL BE IN HIS SIDE ;((((((((

 

[Dtrigg]

I got this from Tamoske this morn. Some nerve, LOL
SORRY MY FRIEND COULD YOU HELP ME?
I THINK ONE MEMBER RIPPED ME FOR 15K$ THESE WHERE TO RETURN HALF TO THE GB MEMBERS . WHATT TO DO IF I POST EVERYTHING HONEST PEOPLE WILL NOT BELIEVE ME THEY WILL BE IN HIS SIDE ;((((((((

:biggrin: That's too funny.

 

[RSO 34]

I got the same one from him. I think it is time to suspend his PM privileges again.

 

[RSO 34]

Talk about brass ones. Now he just sent me this:


"i bagged you for a help honest why you doing this you nobody understand me"

Since he is watching but remaining silent, why ARE YOU refusing to refund the monies you stole from the community?

Why were YOU lying about when you took the photos of your NSX?

Why were YOU lying about trying to order parts for your NSX when you owe thousands of dollars to members here who you ripped off?

Why did you not respond in this thread when your pathological lying was exposed once again???

 

[Tamoske]

i had to make parts by this members asking. to sell them here and by pieces to return them!!!!!!!!!!!!! you not understand that i lost almoust 21k$ with forms for parts i just got lend from bank done everything to resolve all problems- no bank will put me into jail take my parents house everything i will live in a street- this i deserv that i was overcheated lots of times but found people who could helpo to get here lend to do parts and by selling them recovery my name and return money by pieces :frown:

 

[Dtrigg]

Here we go...again...

 

[Tamoske]

you dont even know the situation i told everything honest.

if i will not get back these money i cannot refund back to members money and i will not have where to live and studie so try to imagine what i will do after next week because i need to return loan.:frown:

i done parts by selling them to return every cent got loan from friend and bank and i was ripped- i think, so imagine how to do this. i went honestly good way but one man that i trusted i think overcheated me.

PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS ANSWER WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS TO GET MONEY TO COMMUNITY BY PIECES AND TO GET MONEY TO THE BANK TO DO NEW PARTS AND TO SOLVE EVERYTHING AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!! I TRUSTED YOU..............

 

[RSO 34]

i had to make parts by this members asking. to sell them here and by pieces to return them!!!!!!!!!!!!! you not understand that i lost almoust 21k$ with forms for parts i just got lend from bank done everything to resolve all problems- no bank will put me into jail take my parents house everything i will live in a street- this i deserv that i was overcheated lots of times but found people who could helpo to get here lend to do parts and by selling them recovery my name and return money by pieces :frown:

I have no idea what this means.

Just answer the simple question: When are you going to refund the money you took from everyone?

 

[RSO 34]

you dont even know the situation i told everything honest.

if i will not get back these money i cannot refund back to members money and i will not have where to live and studie so try to imagine what i will do after next week because i need to return loan.:frown:

If you took a loan to repay the money you took from everyone a year ago, then why did you not repay the money directly to those owed? Are you trying to say that you took a loan to pay everyone back and somehow "lost" that money?

How about showing some good faith and posting a scan of the "loan" documents.

 

[Tamoske]

RSO YOU ARE HONEST MAN LIKE OTHERS I -WROTE I NEED TO GET FROM HIM SOMEHOW MONEY TO GET REFUND TO EVEYONE BY PIECES $ ALSO TO RETURN TO BANK AND WITH LITTLE PIECES AND MAKING REAL PARTS TO MOVE ON.
WITHOUT YOUR ALL HELP I WILL REALLY LOSE MY PARENTS HOUSE MY STUDIES EVERYTHING........ PLEASE DONT TURN YOU FACES........... I REALLY TALKING HIONESTLY AND SERIOUSLY:frown:

 

[Tamoske]

I took loan onto my friends name plus another money from my friends to make parts to sell and - by pieces to refund to everyone.
But i was ripped i think when i shipped parts to that honest member that i trusted sooooo much........
Now without your help i cannot do nothing

 

[RSO 34]

you dont even know the situation i told everything honest.

You have no clue what the definition of the word "honest" is.

if i will not get back these money i cannot refund back to members money and i will not have where to live and studie so try to imagine what i will do after next week because i need to return loan.:frown:

Just another "excuse" for not returning the monies that at this point must be considered stolen from the community.

i done parts by selling them to return every cent got loan from friend and bank and i was ripped- i think, so imagine how to do this. i went honestly good way but one man that i trusted i think overcheated me.

"Overcheated"???? Does that mean that someone cheated the cheater?

PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS ANSWER WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS TO GET MONEY TO COMMUNITY BY PIECES AND TO GET MONEY TO THE BANK TO DO NEW PARTS AND TO SOLVE EVERYTHING AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!! I TRUSTED YOU..............

What is this "WE" nonsense???? You took the money. You did not deliver the parts. Over one year has passed and you still lie and make up excuses.

YOU are the horrendous businessman at best and a pathological lying thief at worst. YOU get your head out of your ass and make this right with the individuals YOU wronged/cheated.

 

[RSO 34]

I took loan onto my friends name plus another money from my friends to make parts to sell and - by pieces to refund to everyone.
But i was ripped i think when i shipped parts to that honest member that i trusted sooooo much........
Now without your help i cannot do nothing

If you took a "loan" in your friend's name then why did you not just take the money and send refunds? If you actually made parts then why did you not send them to the people who actually ordered them rather than that "honest member that you trusted sooooo much........"?

 

[RSO 34]

RSO YOU ARE HONEST MAN LIKE OTHERS I -WROTE I NEED TO GET FROM HIM SOMEHOW MONEY TO GET REFUND TO EVEYONE BY PIECES $ ALSO TO RETURN TO BANK AND WITH LITTLE PIECES AND MAKING REAL PARTS TO MOVE ON.
WITHOUT YOUR ALL HELP I WILL REALLY LOSE MY PARENTS HOUSE MY STUDIES EVERYTHING........ PLEASE DONT TURN YOU FACES........... I REALLY TALKING HIONESTLY AND SERIOUSLY:frown:

I hope you kept some of the money to be able to buy a tent. Enjoy the outdoors. Ain't karma a bitch?

 

[davidf]

So he's accusing a member here of ripping him off.

 

[Dtrigg]

Now I admit it's early in the morning here, but do I understand...

He took money from members, didn't deliver the products, and now he is asking for more money?

 

[RSO 34]

i need to return loan.:frown:

First you claim that you took a bank loan and then you claim you took it out in your "friend's" name. What does that mean? Is your friend a co-signer? Did you forge his name on loan documents? And what type of bank loan did you take that it has to be repaid within a matter of weeks after you took it out? And what does your personal loan have to do with your parents' house?

You really need to think through your lies more closely before you post them here.

 

[Tamoske]

im so sorry that you do not undrstand- what im talking about!!!!!!!!!

i lended money from bank and friend to make more parts then to sell from profit to start return money do you understand this!!!!!!!!

Because of other money i needed to return lend. which ends next week and i will not want any money from you understand!!!!!!!!

just want to return my parts that my trusted friend i think ripped from me and some money to refund by half another to gave back to bank and friends if not i will loose my parents house and everything

i don not need your feeling I ONLY NEED A HONEST HELP TO RETURN MONEY FROM THAT MAN!!!!!!!!

 

[RSO 34]

im so sorry that you do not undrstand- what im talking about!!!!!!!!!

i lended money from bank and friend to make more parts then to sell from profit to start return money do you understand this!!!!!!!!

Because of other money i needed to return lend. which ends next week and i will not want any money from you understand!!!!!!!!

just want to return my parts that my trusted friend i think ripped from me and some money to refund by half another to gave back to bank and friends if not i will loose my parents house and everything

i don not need your feeling I ONLY NEED A HONEST HELP TO RETURN MONEY FROM THAT MAN!!!!!!!!

1. If you borrowed money, you should have used it to refund the money you owed to everyone.

2. If you borrowed money to make parts, you should have shipped those parts to the people to whom they were owed and not tried to sell them to new buyers for a profit.

3. What type of bank loan did you take out and why did it mature so quickly? We are still waiting for a scan of the loan documents to see if there is any reason to allow you even an iota of credibility anymore.

4. And, again, what does this have to do with your parents' house?

5. How can you "lose everything" if you have nothing? If you have something, then sell it and refund the money you took last year.

6. Finally, who is "THAT MAN"?????

 

[Tamoske]

answering
1. yes you right but i lended this to do parts to do profit because i have no money to return to lenders if i return to you. because profit only gets me return money to 2 sides are you understand.
3. than man i will scan document in the evening helped me but now he said i need to return money because he want to borrow money for him because i said i will return in a couple months.
4. that means that we took our house document to the bank to get credit. to solve everything - but that person that i thought an awersome honest friend i think ripped me.
5. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD TRUST ME TO BUY REALLY GOOD PARTS TO GAIN SOME $ AND TO BEGIN THESE THING WORK TO ME AND MEMBERS.

6. FINALLY - IF YOU READING THIS IF YOU REALLY STILL WANNA BE FRIENDS PLEASE DO IT RIGHT RETURN MONEY OR PARTS THAT YOU SELLING EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DO THIS FOR ME AND FOR THE PRIME.

 

[Jetpilot3]

Alright I also received a PM from Tamoske but I've also received alot more.

Now I'm not a biased guy nor have the hit out for anyone here on NSX Prime nor have I any affiliation with Tamoske. I haven't bought parts from him, know him, or wish to harm anyone on NSX Prime.

But...what he's sent me this morning should be seen by members of the NSX Prime community so that they can deduct their own conclusions.

Here we go (this will end up being one of the largest ever posts on Prime I suspect):

Now the story as I understand it is NSX Prime members sent Tamoske money (lots) prior in order to make these CF parts. He either pocketed the money or screwed up royally trusting some sort of manufacturer who duped him (we don't know the full story). As I understand from my conversations with Tamoske this morning (I spent 6 hours on this issue) he has asked a friend and the bank to loan him money to make these CF parts for the NSX community (whether or not this is true I don't know). I believe some have been made and sent to a NSX Prime member as you'll see below.

Side note: If you look at the dates on the invoices and courier waybills goods were shipped around July 1, 2008.

Now after seeing all of these this person appears to be "Scorp965" here on NSX Prime as Tamoske has told me (is it?). Tamoske said that he sent this product to Scorp (for some reason? Business transaction?) and now Scorp won't return his calls - Tamoske claims John picked up the phone and denied knowing a Tamoske. Tamoske also sent me the following images of products he claims to make and are being represented by Scorp in these following threads (I'm just posting what has been told to me).

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110555
-posted on August 28th and said to be from a German manufacturer

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110287
-posted on August 23rd

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110558
-posted on August 29th

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105748
-posted on May 25th
-its quoted as saying that these goods will be available mid-August from an overseas vendor and unsure whether 6 more sets will be made

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109073
-posted on July 31st

Now a company is introduced in February called X-Limit Tuning which are offering for sale CF parts made by a supplier in Germany that appear to be products made by Tamoske as he claims. They appeared to start on NSX Prime in February 08 and haven't posted a single thing since June (weird you'd think for a vendor interested in offering NSX parts). The lack of threads is weird...26 in total. Tamoske insists this company, although based overseas as the website would appear, was created as a user on NSX Prime by John Keezer and that all answers to posts are actually done by John (just reiterating what Tamoske has told me in e-mails).

Tamoske told me that he's sent the following to John Keezer:

12 consoles
2 sets of CF inserts
6 sets of CF Trim inserts
4 sets of Rear Valence
1 set of CF Door panels
1 set of CF Door Inserts
1 set of CF Gas Door
and other engine parts etc.

I don't know what to think at this point in time. I have approx.36 emails with pictures of every single CF part that are JPG's. Now if a guy were a scam artist and posted up pictures that were someone else's wouldn't they be .bmp files. For example, if I wanted to steal an image off an NSX Prime thread I'd right click and save the image but the only option I'm given is .bmp and not .jpeg. All of the images Tamoske has sent me this morning are .jpeg and large in size (lends me to think he took them himself).

Now I've told him his credibility and such are tarnished here on prime but he insists he can provide me with original photos taken by him. We'll see. He also insists he can recreate the photos as shown in posts because he took them and they were done in the factory.

I've got photos of the factory and lots of trick CF parts like headlight bezels, etc. I can post all of this up if anyone wants...

As I inquired this morning there appears to be a center console being sold on Ebay that is using the same picture as shown in Scorp965's post here:

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110287

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...viewitem=&item=110282474362&_trksid=p3907.m32

Note the address of Mission Viejo, CA...
Doesn't John Keezer live in Laguna Hills, CA?

Now refer to the pictures of Courier Waybills and such posted and stamped by USPS and addressed to both Laguna Hills, CA and Mission Viejo, CA.

Anyway I won't partake in any more of this crap because I don't know what or whom to believe and I'm not involved. This is the stuff Tamoske sent me today and I can send anyone all 36 or so e-mails or if you want or post them up in this post.

It got me to thinking this morning why would Tamoske keep posting and contacting people on Prime?

 

[RSO 34]

I noted in another thread that there was some type of "business relationship" between Tamoske and Scorp965 who claimed that he sent $16,000 to Tamoske but seemingly was not overly concerned about that large sum of money. I then started seeing random items for sale that appeared to be similar to those purportedly being made by Tamoske. I just thought that Tamoske was using Scorp to sell some products piecemeal in order to raise the money he said he needed simply to cover shipping charges.

This is getting stranger even by Tamoske standards......

 

[Tamoske]

everything correct im attaching you more 3 letter where you can see orders about cf trim pieces here also other parts aso recreated place where they done. in the evening i will provide document that from bank lend. john i did not wanted to do this but obviously you done to me a very bad thing- i trusted you i done parts for you why you changed your ebay id why you did not responde to my pm and emails and ebay letters i sended you over 20 letter bagging on my legs to solve everything - why you dont to me this?????????

 

[Tamoske]

yes i have to get scoorp money he knows that but ok lets be truth he gave me time to recover AND YOU SAID I OWN YOU 16$K YOU KNOW THAT I SPEND 21-25.5K$ MAKING NEW FOR AND PARTS FOR YOU !!!!!!!!


WHY YOU DONE THIS TO ME JETPILOT WROTE YOU NAME I SEARCHEDD YOU FOR ONE WEEK AND WHAT TO DO KNOW????????? I WILL LOOSSE WITH MY PARENTS HOUSE I WILL LOSSE EVERYTHING WHY YOU DONE THIS???????????

I TRUSTED YOU AS A HONEST AND VERY GOOD PERSON WHY YOU DISSAPEARED AND WHEN MY FRIEND CALLED YOU - YOU ANSWERED SAID YES ITS JOHN , HE SAID DO YOU KNOW FRIEND IN LITHUANIA HE CANNOT REACH YOU- THEN IT WAS COUPLE SECONDS SILENT YOU SAID- SORRY I DONT KNOW NOTHING- WHY TO PRETEND??? WHY YOU DO WITH ME LIKE THIS?????THEN YOU SAID SORRY WROONG NUMBER????????? BUT ON ALL YOU PACKAGES TO ME YOUR NUMBER????? ALSO WHY YOU DONT REPLIE TO ALL MY 20 MAILS BAGGING TO SOLVE EVERYTHING. PLEASE SOLVE EVERYTHING IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO LOOSE MY MINDS ABOUT YOU AS A ONE OF THE HONEST PERSONS HERE

 

[Jetpilot3]

One letter just sent to me by Tamoske by production facility (tamoske you must learn to post these on your own).