Should NSXprime Permit Posts About How to Commit Fraud?

I would lean against allowing any posts describing in detail, specific procedures used for the purpose of committing fraud. I'm sure determined crooks will find the information somehow, but why make it easier?

On the other hand, I do think we should provide information on how to detect fraud (as opposed to how to commit it).

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[This message has been edited by PHOEN$X (edited 25 February 2003).]
 
Originally posted by PHOEN$X:
I would lean against allowing any posts describing in detail, specific procedures used for the purpose of committing fraud. I'm sure determined crooks will find the information somehow, but why make it easier?

On the other hand, I do think we should provide information on how to detect fraud (as opposed to how to commit it).


I agree, never tell anyone how to fraud, but if you can help to detect fraud, then you should.

Just cause I can pick a lock/card a door, or anything else, doesnt mean I will, and I have never, nor will ever show someone how to.

My dad told me something that applies to this when I was a kid, " Locks can only keep out honest people "



[This message has been edited by KODIAC (edited 25 February 2003).]
 
I really think censuring information is ALWAYS the worst way to go.

Everybody with an IQ higher than 70 can ask how that "thing that measure how old my car is", "yes the miles thing" and find out that it is called "odometer".

From that point he tips in Google: "odometer recalibrator" or "odometer correction" and he finds everything. It is not the information that makes the people dishonest. It is the person that decides to use them that way that wants to be dishonest.
 
Originally posted by gheba_nsx:
... It is the person that decides to use them that way that wants to be dishonest...

I agree with Giuseppe here - in the original thread I viewed these as a "heads-up" on things to look for and it was prompted by the unfortunate situation with an innocent member being caught out as a victim.
Several members have stated similarly that if someone really wants to do it, they'll look for the way. I can't really imagine anyone being swung by this new "revelation" of "how-to" because it had never entered their head before.
There's no getting away from it, however - clocking is ugly & unfortunately quite prevalent. I personally would have no problem with legislation enforcing a more permanent record of actual mileage, which is quite do-able with today's technology, if not with our NSX dinosaurs!
 
Originally posted by D'Ecosse:
I personally would have no problem with legislation enforcing a more permanent record of actual mileage, which is quite do-able with today's technology, if not with our NSX dinosaurs!

I agree, its wrong. You are buying the car based on its wear, and pay a price according to it, and have expectations about how long it will last you based on its milege...

Ppl can change seats, or pedals, or interior, but the engine and suspension, and everything else on the car is not often changed, and you assume it will last you a long time because of its low milege.

If we had a more permanent record it would make us feel safer, but that still wouldnt prevent it from happening...

"Everytime you make something idiot proof what happens??? they make a better idiot...."

There will always be that element in society that will cheat the rest of the honest ppl.

JMHO
 
I am against the idea of censorship as well, but IMO this is more of a morality issue. Just because the information is out there doesn't mean we should provide a "how-to" manual on committing fraud. What I'm saying is that I would rather provide a "how-to" manual on detecting fraud.

Also, there's the legality issue. Would Lud want to be placed at risk for hosting that kind of information? What if someone decided to sue Lud because their car got stolen as a result of information obtained from here? Even if such a suit were groundless the legal fees could bankrupt someone.
 
i echo Phoen$x's concerns... i dont like the thought of any risk of action against Lud (and hence prime).
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Lud, let me know your opinion and if you think that there is any risk for you I will edit my post in the General Discussion forum. I am not familiar with the US laws and I heard many stories (but almost all of them turned out to be urban legends...) about crazy legal actions...
 
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