Well before I start this story..Let me refresh your memory to what happenned between my 378 rwhp auto 2004 C5 and my buddies stock NSX 2 years ago............................................... ...................................
Well my friend just got a 05 NSX manual and we decided to go have a little fun..
I was expecting to kill him easily since the mags say his car can do 12.9-13.3 stock and Im only a tenth behind the stock gen 2 Vipers at the local strip and around 2 tenths faster than the stock C5Z06's at the same strip..
So he should be no problem......WRONG..Mag times dont tell the hole story..
Before we even raced he took me for a ride in the car a few days ago and I thought it fely VERY FAST...But thought that it was becasue we were so low to the ground and just dismissed it..
BIG MISTAKE....We go on the 3 honk from a 30 mph roll and we stay side by side each other with neighter gaining an inch all the way to 95 mph were we shut down for an upcoming light.
I could not beleave what just happenned. Everyone says these cars are so slow...
But it wasnt slow at all..Actually very very fast and the fastest bone stock car Ive ever raced....
Ive killed Fbodys and 03 Cobras with out a sweat at these speeds..
I recently pulled a 2006 911s at these speeds ( quite easily)
And lost a few months ago to a 430 rwhp Supra by 2 cars going from 70-140 mph....
How could his NSX be so fast???? If it's only a 12.9-13.3 second car???
Well I did some research and found the following stats..
-3100 pounds
-.30 drag
-270 rwhp
-8000 rpm redline
-4.06 gears
-378 rwhp vrs 270-280 rwhp means I have a 1 second advantage
-well he's 100 pounds lighter than me so thers a tenth he earned back
-.29 vrs .30 means are arodynamics are virtually the same
-8000 rpm's vrs my 6300 rpm's means he probaly takes 2 tenths back
-my 2.73's vrs his 4.06's means he probaly takes 5 tenths back..
So do to gearing and rpm's as well as weight it seems like my car is really only 2 tenths faster despite the rwhp differance????
So why do the NSX's only run 12.9-13.3 at the strip if they can run with 378 rwhp C5's on the freeway????
What I noticed is that anything from 1000-4500 rpm's in his car feels sluggish..( like high 14 second car sluggish) but when it gets to 4600 rpm's it pulls as hard as my 378 rwhp Vette all the way to it's 8000 rpm red line...
I think that if the NSX had more tourque and could pull as hard from 1000-45000 rpm's as it dose from 4600-8000 rpm's that it would be a low to mid 12 second car bone stock...
Talk about being surprised!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW. He bought his car last month with only 200 miles on it. It is bone stock.
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So anyway I sold that vette and bought a bone stock 99 Viper ( 450 HP) I raced him with the stock Viper VS his stock NSX and was able to put 3 cars on him from 50-120 mph............................................... .........................
I then later got a 2003 Viper that I never raced against him with....I wrecked that and fast forward to today and I also have a NSX now.........
So their we were...My 1991 NSX with a 5 pound supercharger and his bone stock 2005 NSX....I knew exactly what I was up against and didnt take him for granted..After all running dead even with a 378 rwhp C5 and only getting pulled by 3 cars by a stock 410 rwhp Viper deserves it's respect....
Now I know your thinking the obvious...Supercharged NSX VS stock NSX means a easy win for me...But the 1991 NSX's only ran like 13.7 at 103 mph in stock form on average while the 2005 NSX's run 13.3 at 107 mph with average drivers.....As well my 1991 is a 5 speed manual VS the newer NSX's being 6 speed manuals..
Beep beep beep. all through second gear where door to door and then I miss third gear and he jumps a car our and then I start gaining back fast and feel like I was gonna zip by him...But he lets off...A win for him...
Second race we go from a dig and it's dead even till around 6000 rpm's in second gear and then I put a car on him..Then I change to third gear and he comes a car back..But it's short lived and I start walking away...
We race 5-6 more times and it's always the same out come..from 2000-5500 rpm's were dead even and then around 5500 when I start making boost I start walking away..He always let off when I got a car or two in front of him But I think that by 100 mph I WAS USUALLY AROUND 2 CARS IN FRONT.....
So she didnt pull quite as hard as my stock 99 Viper did at 3 cars...But a little faster than my 2004 378 rwhp C5 did wich could only stay dead even with him..
Fun races
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Well my friend just got a 05 NSX manual and we decided to go have a little fun..
I was expecting to kill him easily since the mags say his car can do 12.9-13.3 stock and Im only a tenth behind the stock gen 2 Vipers at the local strip and around 2 tenths faster than the stock C5Z06's at the same strip..
So he should be no problem......WRONG..Mag times dont tell the hole story..
Before we even raced he took me for a ride in the car a few days ago and I thought it fely VERY FAST...But thought that it was becasue we were so low to the ground and just dismissed it..
BIG MISTAKE....We go on the 3 honk from a 30 mph roll and we stay side by side each other with neighter gaining an inch all the way to 95 mph were we shut down for an upcoming light.
I could not beleave what just happenned. Everyone says these cars are so slow...
But it wasnt slow at all..Actually very very fast and the fastest bone stock car Ive ever raced....
Ive killed Fbodys and 03 Cobras with out a sweat at these speeds..
I recently pulled a 2006 911s at these speeds ( quite easily)
And lost a few months ago to a 430 rwhp Supra by 2 cars going from 70-140 mph....
How could his NSX be so fast???? If it's only a 12.9-13.3 second car???
Well I did some research and found the following stats..
-3100 pounds
-.30 drag
-270 rwhp
-8000 rpm redline
-4.06 gears
-378 rwhp vrs 270-280 rwhp means I have a 1 second advantage
-well he's 100 pounds lighter than me so thers a tenth he earned back
-.29 vrs .30 means are arodynamics are virtually the same
-8000 rpm's vrs my 6300 rpm's means he probaly takes 2 tenths back
-my 2.73's vrs his 4.06's means he probaly takes 5 tenths back..
So do to gearing and rpm's as well as weight it seems like my car is really only 2 tenths faster despite the rwhp differance????
So why do the NSX's only run 12.9-13.3 at the strip if they can run with 378 rwhp C5's on the freeway????
What I noticed is that anything from 1000-4500 rpm's in his car feels sluggish..( like high 14 second car sluggish) but when it gets to 4600 rpm's it pulls as hard as my 378 rwhp Vette all the way to it's 8000 rpm red line...
I think that if the NSX had more tourque and could pull as hard from 1000-45000 rpm's as it dose from 4600-8000 rpm's that it would be a low to mid 12 second car bone stock...
Talk about being surprised!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW. He bought his car last month with only 200 miles on it. It is bone stock.
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So anyway I sold that vette and bought a bone stock 99 Viper ( 450 HP) I raced him with the stock Viper VS his stock NSX and was able to put 3 cars on him from 50-120 mph............................................... .........................
I then later got a 2003 Viper that I never raced against him with....I wrecked that and fast forward to today and I also have a NSX now.........
So their we were...My 1991 NSX with a 5 pound supercharger and his bone stock 2005 NSX....I knew exactly what I was up against and didnt take him for granted..After all running dead even with a 378 rwhp C5 and only getting pulled by 3 cars by a stock 410 rwhp Viper deserves it's respect....
Now I know your thinking the obvious...Supercharged NSX VS stock NSX means a easy win for me...But the 1991 NSX's only ran like 13.7 at 103 mph in stock form on average while the 2005 NSX's run 13.3 at 107 mph with average drivers.....As well my 1991 is a 5 speed manual VS the newer NSX's being 6 speed manuals..
Beep beep beep. all through second gear where door to door and then I miss third gear and he jumps a car our and then I start gaining back fast and feel like I was gonna zip by him...But he lets off...A win for him...
Second race we go from a dig and it's dead even till around 6000 rpm's in second gear and then I put a car on him..Then I change to third gear and he comes a car back..But it's short lived and I start walking away...
We race 5-6 more times and it's always the same out come..from 2000-5500 rpm's were dead even and then around 5500 when I start making boost I start walking away..He always let off when I got a car or two in front of him But I think that by 100 mph I WAS USUALLY AROUND 2 CARS IN FRONT.....
So she didnt pull quite as hard as my stock 99 Viper did at 3 cars...But a little faster than my 2004 378 rwhp C5 did wich could only stay dead even with him..
Fun races
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