These seats are bottom mount only. If anyone has these would you kindly tell us if the seats are easy or difficult to install and whether or not they are comfortable for a car that is driven on public roads (no track use). The weight saving seems significant (14.5 lbs compared to around 40 lbs for the OEM). TIA
Sparco Roadster seats
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They are very easy to install with the sparco sliders and Sparco NSX specific mounting brackets. Just drops right in (OK. maybe some fiddling)
As to comfort, I do not know, they are too small for my fat ass.
As for weight savings, remember you have to add the sliders and bracket back to the seat, so I would guess in the neighborhood of 10# total.
As to comfort, I do not know, they are too small for my fat ass.
As for weight savings, remember you have to add the sliders and bracket back to the seat, so I would guess in the neighborhood of 10# total.
And they look great! btw, if you go this route, I want to see them in person and see how they feel! I'd like them also, but I'm scared I'm to big. 
The Sparco Roadsters are side mount, not bottom mount. You can also order some pretty neat Taitec slider brackets from Science of Speed that will fit perfectly in the NSX.
As for the fitment, I guess that I'm going to be the guinea pig for the fat-ass bunch to see just how narrow they really are. I'm out of town for the weekend, but they should be waiting for me early next week. I'll post my findings here on Prime sometime mid-to-late next week. If they end up being too narrow, then look for a slightly used set of red ones here soon!
Chuck
As for the fitment, I guess that I'm going to be the guinea pig for the fat-ass bunch to see just how narrow they really are. I'm out of town for the weekend, but they should be waiting for me early next week. I'll post my findings here on Prime sometime mid-to-late next week. If they end up being too narrow, then look for a slightly used set of red ones here soon!
Chuck
Roadsters are both bottom and side. Believe me, I sold a pair to an NSX owner along with the sliders and brackets. He decided not to keep them. See the sizing chart below.
http://www.sparcousa.com/sizechart_seat.htm
http://www.sparcousa.com/sizechart_seat.htm
The Roadsters are great for drivers that want a more street-friendly seat. We have a pair of the limited edition silver back seats with less than 100 miles that would look awesome in a sebring silver car (or any car for the matter) if you're interested.
Cheers,
-- Chris
Cheers,
-- Chris
ncdogdoc said:
If you don't mind me asking, how big are you? What is your waist size/ weight?
ncdogdoc said:
Oops.....I didn't notice that they had bottom mounts as well as the side ones.
Why did the person you sold them to decide not to keep them? Was he too small for them as well? How big was he?
Jeez.....I really hate buying seats that I've never sat in.
What is the weight of these seats WITH the
sliders and brackets? The main reason I am interested in these is because of the very significant weight advantage over the OEMs, but if the sliders and the brackets add so much weight that the difference is 10 lbs or less then I will not bother. I will appreciate any information in this regard.
For me the size of the seats is not important as I am not a "big" guy.
sliders and brackets? The main reason I am interested in these is because of the very significant weight advantage over the OEMs, but if the sliders and the brackets add so much weight that the difference is 10 lbs or less then I will not bother. I will appreciate any information in this regard.
For me the size of the seats is not important as I am not a "big" guy.
Viper Driver said:
I have not sat in them at all, I was going from other posts here regarding comfort. I am 6'3" and now up to 220#
so not many of the seats work well for me. I currently use a Sparco Corsa for the driver's seat, and Pro2000 for my passenger seat in the track car. I actually like the Pro2000 better, but the seat belt holes are too low for my shoulders.I am not sure why he decided not to use them. I bought the brackets back from him and used one for the Pro2000.
I am very happy with the stock seats and prefer to keep it that way for my daily driver.
I will weigh the bracket and sliders this afternoon and post the weight later.
ncdogdoc, I will really appreciate your posting the...
bracket and slider weights......I will wait for it.....greatly appreciate your effort.
Thanks!
bracket and slider weights......I will wait for it.....greatly appreciate your effort.
Thanks!
Well, I just got the red/black Sparco Roadsters in an hour ago, and I'll begin by saying that these are some cool seats!
Now, my initial verdict on the fitment........
I'm sitting in the seat as I type this, so at least I can fit in them. My measurements are as follows: 5'11 1/2" tall, 205 lbs, 35-36-inch inseam.
They are a bit deeper and less open in the hip area than the pictures would seem to indicate. The seat is noticeably more snug than the stock seats, but (at least in the hip area) they are not uncomfortable at all. They cradle my hips just fine without leaving any room at all for me to slide side-to-side in them. I can imagine that if I were any bigger then these seats might tend to get uncomfortable. Also, they might not be good for road trips if you're the type of person who likes to fidget around. Since I am strapped to a much less comfortable seat for hours on end in my real job, these seats are definitely tolerable and should provide the perfect lateral support I'm looking for while being streetable at the same time.
I have fairly wide shoulders, and the "wings" on the seat are the exact same width as they are and are at the perfect height.
The only area where I am less than optimum in comfort is in the leg area. My legs are bigger than normal due to my junior/collegiate cycling career, and I wish that the side leg supports were a bit wider. As it is, there seems to be a lot less room to move my legs than the stock seats. Again, not uncomfortable at all, but I'm not ten hours into a twelve-hour road trip, either. I've been sitting in the seat for almost an hour now, and there isn't any spots where the seat is reminding me of it's presence.
Hope this helps, and I'll try to post more findings after the 21st, when these seats and my new harnesses get a workout in an autocross.
Chuck
Now, my initial verdict on the fitment........
I'm sitting in the seat as I type this, so at least I can fit in them. My measurements are as follows: 5'11 1/2" tall, 205 lbs, 35-36-inch inseam.
They are a bit deeper and less open in the hip area than the pictures would seem to indicate. The seat is noticeably more snug than the stock seats, but (at least in the hip area) they are not uncomfortable at all. They cradle my hips just fine without leaving any room at all for me to slide side-to-side in them. I can imagine that if I were any bigger then these seats might tend to get uncomfortable. Also, they might not be good for road trips if you're the type of person who likes to fidget around. Since I am strapped to a much less comfortable seat for hours on end in my real job, these seats are definitely tolerable and should provide the perfect lateral support I'm looking for while being streetable at the same time.
I have fairly wide shoulders, and the "wings" on the seat are the exact same width as they are and are at the perfect height.
The only area where I am less than optimum in comfort is in the leg area. My legs are bigger than normal due to my junior/collegiate cycling career, and I wish that the side leg supports were a bit wider. As it is, there seems to be a lot less room to move my legs than the stock seats. Again, not uncomfortable at all, but I'm not ten hours into a twelve-hour road trip, either. I've been sitting in the seat for almost an hour now, and there isn't any spots where the seat is reminding me of it's presence.
Hope this helps, and I'll try to post more findings after the 21st, when these seats and my new harnesses get a workout in an autocross.
Chuck
Chris@SoS said:
Chris
Are the Roadsters adjustable, not only front to back but is the back of the seat able to lean foreward and back?
Thanks
Armando
Chuck, that was great information! Thanks and enjoy your seats.
One question, what is the weight of the sliders and the brackets ?
You have already answered the question about the comfort factor, now if you would kindly let us know about the weight. Thanks a bunch.
One question, what is the weight of the sliders and the brackets ?
You have already answered the question about the comfort factor, now if you would kindly let us know about the weight. Thanks a bunch.
I don't know what the weights are. I have a bathrom scale here that I can use to approximate the weight when the sliders get here later on today. However, the UPS shipping weight of two sliders and packaging is 36 lbs. With about one pound of packing material, the sliders should weigh about 17 1/2 lbs apiece. If the bathroom scale shows anything far off of this, I'll post it here.
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So if each seat is about 14 lbs and the slider
for each is about 17 lbs or so, we have a more or less 11 lb savings of weight compared to the OEM seats per seat(31 lbs vs 42 lbs). That is pretty good but also makes one realize how light the oem seats are as well. Thanks Chuck, much appreciated!
Enjoy your Roadsters, those seem well worth it.
for each is about 17 lbs or so, we have a more or less 11 lb savings of weight compared to the OEM seats per seat(31 lbs vs 42 lbs). That is pretty good but also makes one realize how light the oem seats are as well. Thanks Chuck, much appreciated!
Enjoy your Roadsters, those seem well worth it.
I've got the Roadsters in the car now (finally!) and they are great. I'm probably going to have to re-adjust the brackets on the seat rails (which means pulling the seats again) but they are fine otherwise. The red/black seats look awesome in my black/ivory car, and I am really glad I made the choice to get them.
Modifying them for the 5th point harness belts was easy with a rotary tool. It literally took five minutes per seat to do. There is a space between the front seat pad and the middle one that is perfect to run the anti-sub belt through. Now, if I had a harness bar, I could install my five-points.......but, I digress.
On the passenger side, the seat BARELY fits. There isn't much room at all between the seat and the center console to adjust the slider, and the outside shoulder "wing" just taps the door panel when the door is closed.
On another note, I'd like to comment on the Taitec brackets that SOS sells. First of all, they are pretty easy to figure out how to assemble, especially with the pictures on the ScienceofSpeed web site. Seat mounting was a snap, and the many slots provide a ton of mounting options. I think that I'll end up making another adjustment when I pull them to install the harness bar.
Now, for the bad news on the rails.......
You've got to be a tall mofo (or have long legs) to set up the seat mount brackets as depicted on the SOS site. I'm going to have to flip them around just so I can move the seat forward more. As it is, my seat is all the way forward on the sliders and I still feel like I should be a half-inch or so closer to the pedals. I don't think anyone shorter than me will be driving my car any time soon.
On the passenger side, I had to do quite a bit of modifying with a rotary tool to open up the rear floor mounts on the rail. Initially, they weren't even close to the holes on the floor, so I had to remove quite a bit of metal on the rails and do some hefty wrenching to get the seat bolted to the floor.
The rails themselves came painted black, and the paint had flaked off where the sliders meet the rails. Personally, I think it looks ugly, and the rails would look a lot better if they were not painted at all. They weren't the precision instruments I had thought they'd be coming from Taitec, but they do the job quite well.
Chuck
Modifying them for the 5th point harness belts was easy with a rotary tool. It literally took five minutes per seat to do. There is a space between the front seat pad and the middle one that is perfect to run the anti-sub belt through. Now, if I had a harness bar, I could install my five-points.......but, I digress.
On the passenger side, the seat BARELY fits. There isn't much room at all between the seat and the center console to adjust the slider, and the outside shoulder "wing" just taps the door panel when the door is closed.
On another note, I'd like to comment on the Taitec brackets that SOS sells. First of all, they are pretty easy to figure out how to assemble, especially with the pictures on the ScienceofSpeed web site. Seat mounting was a snap, and the many slots provide a ton of mounting options. I think that I'll end up making another adjustment when I pull them to install the harness bar.
Now, for the bad news on the rails.......
You've got to be a tall mofo (or have long legs) to set up the seat mount brackets as depicted on the SOS site. I'm going to have to flip them around just so I can move the seat forward more. As it is, my seat is all the way forward on the sliders and I still feel like I should be a half-inch or so closer to the pedals. I don't think anyone shorter than me will be driving my car any time soon.
On the passenger side, I had to do quite a bit of modifying with a rotary tool to open up the rear floor mounts on the rail. Initially, they weren't even close to the holes on the floor, so I had to remove quite a bit of metal on the rails and do some hefty wrenching to get the seat bolted to the floor.
The rails themselves came painted black, and the paint had flaked off where the sliders meet the rails. Personally, I think it looks ugly, and the rails would look a lot better if they were not painted at all. They weren't the precision instruments I had thought they'd be coming from Taitec, but they do the job quite well.
Chuck
Thanks Chuck, finally a hands on pros and cons
type of information. Greatly appreciated!
type of information. Greatly appreciated!
picture time!! 
It seems really strange that you'd have that kind of fitment problems. Hopefully Chris@SoS will comment on this thread.
-Mike
-Mike
Finally!!!
Sorry for my tardiness. Sparco brand NSX specific seat mount and bottom mount sliders weigh in at 12.5#. Not as much as I thought.
Sorry for my tardiness. Sparco brand NSX specific seat mount and bottom mount sliders weigh in at 12.5#. Not as much as I thought.
liftcontrol said:
I have try the roadster seat at the sema show in vegas. They look better than comfort. I weight 155, 5'9 tall. the seat were too small for me. It looks nice. But, i rather get one that fit me better for that price! I might just go with the EVO. fits me better. Goodluck guys!
Viper Driver, now that you've had the Sparcos for about 3 months, what's your long-term opinion?
PorknBeanz said:
I like them! So much, as a matter of fact, that I'm probably not going to put my stock seats back in when I get them re-done.
They are a bit more supportive than the stock seats and they are "deeper," which limits side-to-side movement when cornering. They also compliment the car greatly, and I get a lot of comments on the seats alone!
HTH,
Chuck
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