Stereo in the Navpod?
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The search function is your friend but off hand, I'd say there's no HU on the market that will fit in the JDM Nav Pod because of the depth required. Most setups have a single-DIN HU in the factory location and a monitor in the Nav Pod.
Check out this thread, looks like the Pionner AVIC F-500BT may fit with a custom bezel:
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114785
-Josh
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114785
-Josh
its not a radio in the normal sense. its a nav unit that has the ability to input ipod. no am/fm tuner.
I have this setup in my car, just installed a few weeks ago...
I am using a Kenwood Carportal V500, with the L-702W touchscreen in a navpod; also attached are XM radio, ipod, and G510 navigation - everything, including AM/FM tuner, is controlled through the touchscreen in the pod, the V500 unit is a hideaway 'amp' style unit, which I have installed near the glovebox.
There is no 'deck', only the screen in the navpod.
I am using a Kenwood Carportal V500, with the L-702W touchscreen in a navpod; also attached are XM radio, ipod, and G510 navigation - everything, including AM/FM tuner, is controlled through the touchscreen in the pod, the V500 unit is a hideaway 'amp' style unit, which I have installed near the glovebox.
There is no 'deck', only the screen in the navpod.
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Sounds great, can you post pics please.
Here are some quick pictures of my setup:
Interface menu:
AM/FM:
iPod (w/video):
XM radio:
Garmin Navi:
You can also control a (kenwood) CD changer, play songs from a USB thumb drive, install a rear view camera in the video aux (I am using this as a 'viewfinder' for my front rollbar mounted camera), or use the unit with dual screens, so you can display different menus at the same time on different monitors.
As I mentioned, the stereo's main unit is about the size of an amplifier, this unit is installed in the passenger footwell in my car.
Interface menu:
AM/FM:
iPod (w/video):
XM radio:
Garmin Navi:
You can also control a (kenwood) CD changer, play songs from a USB thumb drive, install a rear view camera in the video aux (I am using this as a 'viewfinder' for my front rollbar mounted camera), or use the unit with dual screens, so you can display different menus at the same time on different monitors.
As I mentioned, the stereo's main unit is about the size of an amplifier, this unit is installed in the passenger footwell in my car.
Nice setup, I like it! Where in the footwell did you install main unit? I'm considering replacing my mac mini with this setup, but I've got a Zetoolman sub, so the footwell may not be an option for me. I might have to go with behind the drivers' seat, or maybe the glovebox would work.
-Josh
It's too big for the glovebox, mine is mounted against the factory sub location, with the Zetoolman box, this location would no longer be viable, you would need to put it against the firewall, behind the driver's seat.
Another option might be to get an alternative kenwood single-DIN unit that allows for connection to the L702 screen - you could then stash this single DIN behind the glovebox, or under the console, as all of its features can be operated by the pod-mounted screen (including hard buttons for source, and volume) - the single DIN would be easier to hide.
There is limited information on the carportal line of products, the V500 was a little larger than I was expecting, but I wanted to reduce cabling over my previous carpc setup, so mounting it in the same location would not have provided me with any benefit. I like the G510 navi, and the screen is easier to read in full sun (the above pictures are taken with direct glare).
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Osiris_x11
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a limited, though viable alternative...
scorp965... you really got me intrigued about this Kenwood V500 setup! I imagine it gets really pricey bundling w/ the necessary basics (ie. tuner, GPS-Nav', LCD-touchscreen, and some sort of music/media hard-drive or SD-capability)?
I finally was able to test-fit the Pioneer AVIC F500BT into the JDM Nav' pod, and it fits effortlessly. There is a approx' 1/4" space at the top & bottom, of which a custom bezel made of plastic/aluminum/balsa-wood/etc' would address adequately (as suggested by Joshs).
Also, the F500BT unit can be inserted into the front of the nav' pod & fit snugly (the horizontal-length of the unit is literally identical to that of the nav' pod). This means using some custom-mounting bracket w/ a release tab can allow the F500BT to be inserted into the Nav' pod & removed easily for swapping-out SD-cards (8GB is the max' size listed in the manual, but others have used larger ones w/ success), and even for use on other vehicles. This unit comes w/ a rechargeable lithium-ion battery for portability, detachable direct/hardwire harness & adapter (which would be used in the NSX), and additional 12V cig'-adapter for other vehicles (along w/ adjustable suction-mount).
I'll hopefully get it installed in my NSX soon, but of-course w/ an aux' input converter so I can integrate to the OEM/stock Bose head-unit. This lil' unit is a very-very feature rich & versatile unit, for the money. Added portability for vehicle-to-vehicle swapping even w/ the fixed Nav' pod hardwire make it all the more appealing!
scorp965... you really got me intrigued about this Kenwood V500 setup! I imagine it gets really pricey bundling w/ the necessary basics (ie. tuner, GPS-Nav', LCD-touchscreen, and some sort of music/media hard-drive or SD-capability)?
I got home a week or so ago after a near 2-month vacation...
I finally was able to test-fit the Pioneer AVIC F500BT into the JDM Nav' pod, and it fits effortlessly. There is a approx' 1/4" space at the top & bottom, of which a custom bezel made of plastic/aluminum/balsa-wood/etc' would address adequately (as suggested by Joshs).
Also, the F500BT unit can be inserted into the front of the nav' pod & fit snugly (the horizontal-length of the unit is literally identical to that of the nav' pod). This means using some custom-mounting bracket w/ a release tab can allow the F500BT to be inserted into the Nav' pod & removed easily for swapping-out SD-cards (8GB is the max' size listed in the manual, but others have used larger ones w/ success), and even for use on other vehicles. This unit comes w/ a rechargeable lithium-ion battery for portability, detachable direct/hardwire harness & adapter (which would be used in the NSX), and additional 12V cig'-adapter for other vehicles (along w/ adjustable suction-mount).
I'll hopefully get it installed in my NSX soon, but of-course w/ an aux' input converter so I can integrate to the OEM/stock Bose head-unit. This lil' unit is a very-very feature rich & versatile unit, for the money. Added portability for vehicle-to-vehicle swapping even w/ the fixed Nav' pod hardwire make it all the more appealing!
Re: a limited, though viable alternative...
There is the basic V500 unit, then a LZ702-W touchscreen, G510 navi unit (w/SD capability), XM tuner, and ipod cable; these costs would be shared with most other headunit solutions. Shopping around, I was able to purchase these items around $1200, including a new replacement navpod.
If you wish to retain an OEM interior appearance, with the addition of a navpod, the V500 would be a perfect solution - this was my original interest in the carportal, I intended to essentially replace the headunit, but leave it in place so I wouldn't need to modify the center console. For the audio output of the V500, you would put it into an aux-in unit attached to the CD changer plug on the OEM deck. Now the OEM deck controls volume, but navi, xm radio, AM/FM tuner, cd changer, ipod, etc. are controlled on the screen, and the interior appears stock, with the addition of a touchscreen in a navpod.
There is the basic V500 unit, then a LZ702-W touchscreen, G510 navi unit (w/SD capability), XM tuner, and ipod cable; these costs would be shared with most other headunit solutions. Shopping around, I was able to purchase these items around $1200, including a new replacement navpod.
If you wish to retain an OEM interior appearance, with the addition of a navpod, the V500 would be a perfect solution - this was my original interest in the carportal, I intended to essentially replace the headunit, but leave it in place so I wouldn't need to modify the center console. For the audio output of the V500, you would put it into an aux-in unit attached to the CD changer plug on the OEM deck. Now the OEM deck controls volume, but navi, xm radio, AM/FM tuner, cd changer, ipod, etc. are controlled on the screen, and the interior appears stock, with the addition of a touchscreen in a navpod.
Re: a limited, though viable alternative...
So Scorp965,
Following your suggestion to keep the OEM interior appearance, the items needed are (please correct me if I am wrong), 1 navpod, 1 Carportal V500, 1 LZ702-W touchscreen, 1 G510 navi unit and 1 iPod Cable.
By purchasing these parts, I can hook the stock HU, stock CD changer (or an updated one, since it doesn't matter because it sit in the trunk), G510 and iPod cable to the V500 and ouptput the display to the LZ702-W touchscreen in the navpod and make a seamless transition from 1990 to 2009? Brilliant idea!!! Are you having someone to put all these together or doing it yourself? If you are having someone to do this, please pass along the info. If you are doing it yourself...can you help me by giving me more details on the installation? Thanks in advance....
So Scorp965,
Following your suggestion to keep the OEM interior appearance, the items needed are (please correct me if I am wrong), 1 navpod, 1 Carportal V500, 1 LZ702-W touchscreen, 1 G510 navi unit and 1 iPod Cable.
By purchasing these parts, I can hook the stock HU, stock CD changer (or an updated one, since it doesn't matter because it sit in the trunk), G510 and iPod cable to the V500 and ouptput the display to the LZ702-W touchscreen in the navpod and make a seamless transition from 1990 to 2009? Brilliant idea!!! Are you having someone to put all these together or doing it yourself? If you are having someone to do this, please pass along the info. If you are doing it yourself...can you help me by giving me more details on the installation? Thanks in advance....
Re: a limited, though viable alternative...
Hello,
I did the installation myself, but any stereo shop should be able to do it (experience with kenwood is a plus).
With regard to the CD changer, you would need to replace your OEM unit with a cd changer produced by Kenwood, that is compatible with their interface bus; if you have a 1991 or 1992 (no passenger airbag), you could install this cd changer in the glovebox, otherwise, you would need to run a cable to the trunk to replace the factory/alpine bus cable.
Essentially your stereo becomes the Kenwood V500, this controls all of your audio, as well as navi, etc. - the V500 outputs would then be connected to an 'aux in' interface attached to the CD changer port of your stock deck, similar to how people get their ipods to work with the oem stereo. You would use the kenwood touchscreen for everything but volume, you would leave the OEM deck on the 'cd changer' option, and use its volume knob to control the audio level. You could opt to retain AM/FM on the stock deck if that is your preference, or switch the antenna over to the V500 and use it for AM/FM.
This is assuming you're looking to replace your sound system with one that allows for increased features, such as satellite radio, full ipod integration, bluetooth integration, backup camera, etc. - all of which is possible with the Kenwood carportal. In addition, the V500 has two external switches, which you could use with a relay to operate other powered devices, such as a garage door opener, or integrated radar detector, from the touchscreen.
If these advanced features are not important to you, if all you require is navi, the installation is much simplier, you could leave out the V500, purchase instead only a screen and the G510, and leave the stock deck in place for AM/FM, and CD changer control. Alternatively, Alpine produces a screen with integrated speakers, and bluetooth functionality; hook their screen up to a blackbird portable navi, and you now have navi and phone integration in a navpod, independent from your factory stereo system. It really depends on what features are important to you, what you require dictates what kind of system is needed - there is also the Kenwood carportal V1000, which offers even more inputs, for additional devices.
In either case, the stock deck remains in the center console, the stock center console is untouched, and a touchscreen in a factory nav pod is installed in place of the upper central vent.
In my installation, as you can see, I removed the stock deck entirely, I am using the V500 as a standalone stereo, so it is connected directly from its preouts to the factory stereo harness, much like an aftermarket stereo. The V500 turns on the factory nsx amplifiers when powered on, and volume is controlled either via the touch screen, or through the hard buttons on the monitor.
Hello,
I did the installation myself, but any stereo shop should be able to do it (experience with kenwood is a plus).
With regard to the CD changer, you would need to replace your OEM unit with a cd changer produced by Kenwood, that is compatible with their interface bus; if you have a 1991 or 1992 (no passenger airbag), you could install this cd changer in the glovebox, otherwise, you would need to run a cable to the trunk to replace the factory/alpine bus cable.
Essentially your stereo becomes the Kenwood V500, this controls all of your audio, as well as navi, etc. - the V500 outputs would then be connected to an 'aux in' interface attached to the CD changer port of your stock deck, similar to how people get their ipods to work with the oem stereo. You would use the kenwood touchscreen for everything but volume, you would leave the OEM deck on the 'cd changer' option, and use its volume knob to control the audio level. You could opt to retain AM/FM on the stock deck if that is your preference, or switch the antenna over to the V500 and use it for AM/FM.
This is assuming you're looking to replace your sound system with one that allows for increased features, such as satellite radio, full ipod integration, bluetooth integration, backup camera, etc. - all of which is possible with the Kenwood carportal. In addition, the V500 has two external switches, which you could use with a relay to operate other powered devices, such as a garage door opener, or integrated radar detector, from the touchscreen.
If these advanced features are not important to you, if all you require is navi, the installation is much simplier, you could leave out the V500, purchase instead only a screen and the G510, and leave the stock deck in place for AM/FM, and CD changer control. Alternatively, Alpine produces a screen with integrated speakers, and bluetooth functionality; hook their screen up to a blackbird portable navi, and you now have navi and phone integration in a navpod, independent from your factory stereo system. It really depends on what features are important to you, what you require dictates what kind of system is needed - there is also the Kenwood carportal V1000, which offers even more inputs, for additional devices.
In either case, the stock deck remains in the center console, the stock center console is untouched, and a touchscreen in a factory nav pod is installed in place of the upper central vent.
In my installation, as you can see, I removed the stock deck entirely, I am using the V500 as a standalone stereo, so it is connected directly from its preouts to the factory stereo harness, much like an aftermarket stereo. The V500 turns on the factory nsx amplifiers when powered on, and volume is controlled either via the touch screen, or through the hard buttons on the monitor.
Well, I've start acquiring the parts for swapping out my Mac Mini for this Carportal based system. With the new laws in California regarding texting, I just don't want to deal with having the PC in my car anymore. Plus the mac mini will be more useful to me as a media PC anyways.
So far I've ordered the 510 nav (269.00 from Salectronics via Amazon), the BT-200 for 89.00 (the bt-100 is less than half that, but doesn't support A2DP), and the KNW/USB-AV ipod adaptor for $17.
For the main unit, I may go with the KOS-V1000, since it's only $100 more, and is just a few mm bigger. It's really not much different - from what I can tell it only has an extra video output (which I don't need), but the pre-out's are 5v instead of 2v, and it has 2 USB instead of 1. It also looks a bit nicer with the polished covering.
I'll use the preouts to send the signal to my existing amp in the trunk, so I'm hoping the 5v should help reduce any alternator whine or other noise. I haven't decided if I'll bother to hook up the OEM stereo, but I'm leaning towards leaving it out of the loop.
The KOS-V500 is available as a refurb for $299 and the KOS-V1000 is $399 from Crutchfield. The L702 is $279 for a refurb. They have a 20$ off coupon, and a $25 rebate if you use ebillme during checkout. I'm going to have my GF order the screen so I can get $45 off both the main unit and the screen.
Unfortunately, Crutchfield's coupon system is broken so I haven't ordered the screen or core unit yet.
For those considering this sytem - the KOS-v500 is also available NEW here for $329: http://www.dealercostcaraudio.com/kos-v500.aspx
-Josh
So far I've ordered the 510 nav (269.00 from Salectronics via Amazon), the BT-200 for 89.00 (the bt-100 is less than half that, but doesn't support A2DP), and the KNW/USB-AV ipod adaptor for $17.
For the main unit, I may go with the KOS-V1000, since it's only $100 more, and is just a few mm bigger. It's really not much different - from what I can tell it only has an extra video output (which I don't need), but the pre-out's are 5v instead of 2v, and it has 2 USB instead of 1. It also looks a bit nicer with the polished covering.
I'll use the preouts to send the signal to my existing amp in the trunk, so I'm hoping the 5v should help reduce any alternator whine or other noise. I haven't decided if I'll bother to hook up the OEM stereo, but I'm leaning towards leaving it out of the loop.
The KOS-V500 is available as a refurb for $299 and the KOS-V1000 is $399 from Crutchfield. The L702 is $279 for a refurb. They have a 20$ off coupon, and a $25 rebate if you use ebillme during checkout. I'm going to have my GF order the screen so I can get $45 off both the main unit and the screen.
Unfortunately, Crutchfield's coupon system is broken so I haven't ordered the screen or core unit yet.
For those considering this sytem - the KOS-v500 is also available NEW here for $329: http://www.dealercostcaraudio.com/kos-v500.aspx
-Josh
Anyone can suggest a good Audio place around Torrance area or City of Industry area? I am really leaning to do this before exchanging my exhaust....
I suggest you post in the SoCal regional forum, you'll likely get more responses there.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47
-Josh
Re: a limited, though viable alternative...
problem is the mounting depth, I have tried this already
problem is the mounting depth, I have tried this already
Osiris_x11
Gold Member, Moderator: Marketplace
wut...
The F500BT unit is barely 3/4" thick (there's no CD/DVD-drive). If I lined up 3 of these units back-to-back, they'd fit into the JDM nav' pod w/ ease.
Are you thinking of the F700BT or F900BT double-DIN in-dash head-units w/ integrated CD/DVD drives, respectively?
I've already put my F500BT into my JDM nav' pod, it just needs to be hardwired for power & connected to the OEM/stock Bose head-unit w/ an aux' input converter through the CD-changer connection. . .
Reference:
The power-source adapter-plate shown on the adjustable suction-mount arm is detached & then kept attached to the actual unit. This power-source adapter-plate is what the hardwire 'bundle' connects to (inside the JDM nav' pod). The adjustable suction-mount arm can be kept in another vehicle to be used w/ the aux' 12v ciggie'lighter adapter. Also, there's the internal lithium-ion battery for portable use. . .
I'm not sure if I follow you...
The F500BT unit is barely 3/4" thick (there's no CD/DVD-drive). If I lined up 3 of these units back-to-back, they'd fit into the JDM nav' pod w/ ease.
Are you thinking of the F700BT or F900BT double-DIN in-dash head-units w/ integrated CD/DVD drives, respectively?
I've already put my F500BT into my JDM nav' pod, it just needs to be hardwired for power & connected to the OEM/stock Bose head-unit w/ an aux' input converter through the CD-changer connection. . .
Reference:
The power-source adapter-plate shown on the adjustable suction-mount arm is detached & then kept attached to the actual unit. This power-source adapter-plate is what the hardwire 'bundle' connects to (inside the JDM nav' pod). The adjustable suction-mount arm can be kept in another vehicle to be used w/ the aux' 12v ciggie'lighter adapter. Also, there's the internal lithium-ion battery for portable use. . .
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Not intending to highjack this thread but since you guys seem to know allot about car pc's then i thought i'd pose this question here.
I looked at all of the double din head units today and i am less than impressed with what they can do vs the cost.
All i want is a touch screen that works 2 way with my iphone. I want to be able to use the touchscreen to control my iphone the same as it would if i were holding the phone. That means being able to view my contacts, maps, weather and most importantly music and movies. An am/fm tuner and pre amp would be a great as well.
Surely there has to be some simple touch screen out there that can interface with my iphone seamlessly isn't there? All the current double din units on the market wont even play the movies from my phone. That just seems ridiculous for the amount of money they are asking for these things.
Whats my best option guys?
I looked at all of the double din head units today and i am less than impressed with what they can do vs the cost.
All i want is a touch screen that works 2 way with my iphone. I want to be able to use the touchscreen to control my iphone the same as it would if i were holding the phone. That means being able to view my contacts, maps, weather and most importantly music and movies. An am/fm tuner and pre amp would be a great as well.
Surely there has to be some simple touch screen out there that can interface with my iphone seamlessly isn't there? All the current double din units on the market wont even play the movies from my phone. That just seems ridiculous for the amount of money they are asking for these things.
Whats my best option guys?
The quick answer is that you don't really have any options.
There are a couple issues. First is that for full functionality, you'd need a multi-touch screen, which are still relatively rare. Also, the aspect ratio would likely be off.
With a jailbroken iphone, you could probably set up some sort of VNC server on the iphone, but then you'd need another computer to act as a client to connect and control it. However, watching videos through VNC isn't going to happen anytime soon either.
I have read about some people who did get video out working on the iphone, so there is that possibility. But control was still limited to the iphone screen itself.
Maybe something like this will be available eventually, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon
-Josh
Got the KOS-V1000 ordered finally for $379, free shipping plus a forthcoming $25 rebate.
Crutchfield's discount code system is still not working, but if you call or chat with them, they will tell you to proceed with the order at full price, and in the special notes, reference the person you talked with and they will adjust the amount before charging your card (or if you use ebillme, they'll adjust the invoice - note that you'll still get a first ebillme invoice for the full amount, but a few minutes later a corrected one will arrive showing the discounted amount).
(FYI the $20 off $100+ expires 1/31)
Use code 3A825
-Josh
Bumping an old thread. I really like Scorp's setup and it seems like Osiris's would end up working as well?
1) I've been thinking of installing a double din unit with console modification, but the Navpod is another option I had not considered. Admittedly, I am little hesitant about how the Navpod will look--form factor. But after seeing a few pics, it looks pretty OEM and probably has the benefit of being closer to eye level instead of looking down towards the console.
2) Are these units in Navpod working well? Also, what are recommendations for newer units (thread is old) that would fit well in the Navpod?
3) Lastly, for any of you who went FI what boost gauges did you buy where did you guys place your gauges to look OEM as possible or hidden? I found this thread--and this digital gauge seems cool, but not sure where it can be installed to look non-intrusive.
http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150098
The goal is to upgrade the dash with new age features with as OEM look as possible.
1) I've been thinking of installing a double din unit with console modification, but the Navpod is another option I had not considered. Admittedly, I am little hesitant about how the Navpod will look--form factor. But after seeing a few pics, it looks pretty OEM and probably has the benefit of being closer to eye level instead of looking down towards the console.
2) Are these units in Navpod working well? Also, what are recommendations for newer units (thread is old) that would fit well in the Navpod?
3) Lastly, for any of you who went FI what boost gauges did you buy where did you guys place your gauges to look OEM as possible or hidden? I found this thread--and this digital gauge seems cool, but not sure where it can be installed to look non-intrusive.
http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150098
The goal is to upgrade the dash with new age features with as OEM look as possible.
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