Larry and Ken, I am getting my 16/17's back from Wheels America tomorrow morning so I will have first hand info back to you then. Yes they do charge the same flat fee no matter what the condition or what they do (unless they paint with "hyper silver"). I bought them beautiful polished seven spokes. They were stripped, outer lips polished, inside of the spokes powdercoated sebring silver (same paint code) with the face of the spokes diamond cut, lugs and valve stem are chrome with a gunmetal center Acura cap. I elected to powdercoat clear the entire surface after that, sans the center cap. They do the work here on the Island so I was fortunate enough to experiment with the actual tech. Let you know tomorrow how they look and hopefully get some pictures at the River Run