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1992 NA1 Type-R, which I think you could argue at that time was one of the highest-performance cars in the world. 2700 lbs!
I'd love to see what the B&B C30 from the R put out on the dyno...
I
believe the '93+ NA1
NSX-
R didn't have a blueprinted/balanced motor, but instead featured weight-savings through a few lighter-weight components/parts, tuned sports-suspension, obvious JDM "short-gears", and a revised ECU-chip which improved the throttle response, raised the redline & even bumped up the h.p. & torque marginally.
Procar Specials can offer more insight on this (especially the ECU-chip), as it was explained to me years ago by them.
its was funny I ripped the Corvette up,saying the NSX was an "Exotic Supercar " and that the corvette was an off the shelf Junk car,,and that Z06 lalalala you could add all the letters in the alphabet Z06-R Z06-L Z06-Q Z06-Y etc. to its name and it wouldnt be a Super car... Will keep you guys updated LOL
Why would you even ponder such, let alone do it? I'm absolutely dumbfounded.
It's good to take the initiative to have your voice heard, but at least have some merit, basis, and insight in your argument. Denigrating & dissin' another make/model doesn't then all of a sudden make your desired make/model better.
I'm very, very disappointed you would make your view-point known in such an ineloquent & immature manner (assuming that's how you stated everything in the email). That does absolutely nothing to make our community look any better, as a reflection of one then falls on all. I do realize & commend your enthusiasm & adoration of the NSX, but it's better to state one's view-point in a different light.
Like other here I don't consider the NSX a supercar - I'm not sure if I would even say it was an exotic - I don't believe any of Porsches regular production cars is an exotic or supercar, maybe the 911 GT3. The Carrera GT was the only Porsche super car that comes to mind of recent date. I don't even consider the 959 to be an exotic now. Historically it was but that technology was moved into regular production vehicles and even surpased in todays 911s.
It is a true sports car and it is a true performance car - even today I believe it to be. It may not be as fast as the GTR or many others but it is still as fast in the right hands as many "sports cars" are today.
This is one of those simantic areas that will always be argued. For the day with it's aluminum body, frame and suspension it was probably an exotic. It wasn't cheap back then either. When it went out of production it was as expensive as a new 911. I would of course rather have had a new NSX than a new water cooled 996 - for sure. Actually the 911 is a sports GT - it has rear seats after all.
tbromley, you're totally missing the point of what in-essence may define an exotic or personify a supercar. Once an exotic or supercar, always an exotic or supercar.
You're telling me that a quicker Mitsu' Evo X is a supercar, and a Ferrari F40 is no longer one because the Evo is quicker than it along w/ better performing/handling? Apparently such is the case, if you're basing what was then w/ what is now.
It's all relative w/ regards to the time-frame of a model's run, in-comparo to it's contemporaries & past models, which are what distinguish if not elevate a platform into the realm of being exotic, supercar, or whatever else they may choose as reference.
Even dated Ferrari 308/328/etc' models from '70s & early '80s are still exotics, despite some of them being 2+2 and/or being outclassed by modern-day stock Civic-Si's.
... but when it comes to Performance for its Era Yes its a "Supercar"...
Would you seriously put the NSX in the same ball-park, let alone same league performance-wise as the Ferrari F40/F50, Lamborghini Diablo/Murcielago, Koenigsegg CC's, Pagani Zonda, Porsche Carrera-GT, Maclaren F1, Maclaren Mercedes SLR? HeII know. Those are the supercars of the same era.
If the NSX had a V8 w/ 100 more h.p., or a V10/V12, then it would be a compelling case for being a supercar (IMO). . .
shawn110975 said:
So NSX is low on the Price tag but Its considered an "Exotic" and if you dont see one everyday then it is in true form and exotic,
The concept of exotic transcends criteria & categories. Of-course it can mean hand-assembled, limited-number production, mid/rear engine position, high-performance, high-price, engineering prowess, unique materials, advanced technologies, unique styling, blah-bla-bha...
So, based on that quick-hit list, exotics would then include Aston Martin Vanquish/DB-S, Ferrari 550/575/612/599/California-GT, Porsche 911, Nissan GT-R, Mercedes Benz SL-AMG Black_Series, Bentley Continental GT Speed, Maserati GranTursimo, Chevrolet Corvette Z06/ZR1, TVR, etc'. But, by most keen observers & enthusiasts, they aren't generally considered exotics as there are other makes/models emulating the concept of exotic much more-so.
But, it's there's also the
je ne sais quoi aspect to being an exotic which entails input from the senses & visceral feedback from the experience, meaning visual presence, sonorous sounds, seating position, view, ride-height & road-closeness of occupants, driving dynamics. As much as it may sound like hyperbole, exotics exude something that is experienced physically & sensually.
Tougher yet is what to say about the BMW Z8, Lotus Elise/Evora. Though, it's accepted that the NSX, Ferrari 348/355/360/F430/F458, Lamborghini Gallardo, Lotus ESPRIT, Ford GT, Audi R8, Noble, and even the Mercedes Benz SLS are exotics.