ebay listing

[Hasdrubal]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acur...018QQitemZ280185848305QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Anyone seen this listing? I hesitate to buy anything serious off eBay, and I'm really not in the market for a supercharger anyway, but I'm curious if anyone thinks this looks reasonable.

I know the best answer would be to find a reputable shop and get something professionally installed (if Comptech was still available, especially), but really, I'm just curious.

Nick

 

[NSX_NICK]

That thing will probably cause your engine to fail.

 

[J-RnsxT]

Looks like a nice set up but make sure you do your homework before installing one to your NSX. I would... trash up that fuel pressure regulator, and fuel control system. I will get an engine management system... tuning is the key for that system.... but, you probably wont get that one cause im pretty sure your eyeballing on CTSC. Good luck with what ever your getting this chistmas.

 

[01blacks4]

lol that thing will probably cause your engine to fail. I tell you what, order it up, get it installed and drive it like you stole it.

why would you say something so ignorant?

it actually looks like a very good system, well thought out, with a IC capable of actually cooling something....

you probably just saw the name BASCH and thought you would be cool and say its crap, when you really dont know anything more than how to type...making you an internet expert...i hope you at least look and see it isnt the comptech or basch that the add has in the headline.

sorry to be harsh, but silly comments like this are why the NSX FI community is 4-5 years behind the rest of car-ville.

wait till you see what your custom turbo kit looks like sitting on a card table....

ed-u-ma-cate yourself before throwing the disarranging comments

 

[MJK]

As it sits, I wouldn't put that thing on my NSX if you paid me.

1. SS fuel management is what caused a lot of the BBSC problems. This has it.
2. Advertised as 'designed by NSX Modified' means Larry Garcia. Might work, but let's just say he isn't known for being a high quality perfectionist.

If you view the listing as parts for a project, I would say it looks like a nice deal. If you are looking at it as a bolt-up and go solution then I would say you are in for one hell of a ride.

 

[01blacks4]

As it sits, I wouldn't put that thing on my NSX if you paid me.

1. SS fuel management is what caused a lot of the BBSC problems. This has it.
2. Advertised as 'designed by NSX Modified' means Larry Garcia. Might work, but let's just say he isn't known for being a high quality perfectionist.

If you view the listing as parts for a project, I would say it looks like a nice deal. If you are looking at it as a bolt-up and go solution then I would say you are in for one hell of a ride.

Again...this shows your silly preconceived ideas....
SS boxes work on thousands of vehicles just fine...yes there were a handful (ok 3-4 fistful) pf people who had an issue...
AND THEY ALL HAD THE SAME BASE TUNE FROM BASCH....so its no wonder there were issues...
A few people who learned how to operate what the bought...retuned it with the SS and had no issues....
SS was not the problem; it was people who don’t know what they are doing...

as far as designed by Larry....it says designed by, not built by so that argument doesn’t work...its the same setup that Cunningham had and the same that Dali is selling, same one that autowave just listed here not so long ago on a race car so the layout must be somewhat accepted...its still better that a non-intercooled comptech...which uses the rising rate fuel pressure regulator also (until you spend more on an AMS)

the SC part of this should sell for 1500$ itself... the IC system is worth another $1000....seems like a deal to me, buy an AEM on top of this...be done for under 5K and have 400hp plus...

I still stand behind my comment that there are too many keyboard experts on this FI forum, which scare and hold back others from pushing the envelope.

Its funny how the people who actually are FI never post, and everyone who went all out with I/H/E post all the time about what is good and what isn’t…have you ever even seen a Larry Garcia project in person? Or a BASCH SC in person? I am not trying to belittle anyone, or their opinions….but to state these opinions in a public forum as fact, without any actual hands on knowledge is kinda silly…..

 

[The Kid]

Mark,

You think this setup would work best with an AEM FMU or another stand-alone unit. I'm currently the high bid and was wondering what else you thought was required? Seems like a great deal...

 

[Flexer]

lol that thing will probably cause your engine to fail. I tell you what, order it up, get it installed and drive it like you stole it.

CLICK THE LINK: (make sure your sound is turned on)


http://NSX.NICK.YouAreMighty.com


J. R.

 

[01blacks4]

jr that was some funny sh i t...should have been white94 though

Kid, i would think, AEM,new injectors and colder plugs....should be good to go....

 

[jeffchai]

its funny i been watching this since yestoday. it looks like a pretty sweet set up just need some minor work on the tuning part. i dont want to start a bidding war on this my max bid is 3500 on it.

 

[J-RnsxT]

Good luck on your bid KID. I would add aeromotive adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 255 lbh fuel pump, 440 or 550 cc fuel injector and.... the "boost juice"... you may want to add that system if this SC system is giving you high intake temp. EMS system is also important. 01blacks4 said... AEM EMS... i think i threw away my split second box.

 

[KooLaid]

Better be prepared to bid big :biggrin:

 

[01blacks4]

Good luck on your bid KID. I would add aeromotive adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 255 lbh fuel pump, 440 or 550 cc fuel injector and.... the "boost juice"... you may want to add that system if this SC system is giving you high intake temp. EMS system is also important. 01blacks4 said... AEM EMS... i think i threw away my split second box.

why the adjustable FPR? and if so why not the AEM which bolts to the rail? with the added 255, which who knows if its REALLY needed you should have no worries with smallish 440s...and be good to go with 550's which is what i would run.

the boost juice, i am guessing is you refer to is a methonal injection...? ALA a snow setup or the like???
again, with that IC and the lower boost levels..and living in a cooler climate like NJ, i can not see the benifit.

i do find it weird that some many people have intrest in this, and so few in a turbo....what are you all former Mustang owners who havent caught up yet

 

[peiserg]

well i certainly wouldn't be advertising that larry garcia had anything to do with it if you want to sell it, since the thread on his turbo setup was near-legendary (along with the thread on how many parts he stole from nsx owners)... but really, the ignoramouses out there have no idea what they are talking about... if this centrifugal setup is so bad why is the dali set using it, the comptech s2000 setup using it (i think), and the SOS SC setup using it (though they stopped somewhere along the way to making them publicly available).

i agree the tune is probably what killed all those bbsc systems... that and people being cheap on the setup. I had not only the sc system put in, but wideband AFR, fuel and boost gauges, and a water/air aftercooler setup. probably 7k in all.

go back to feeling fast with your I/H/E nsx. just let me know if one of my taillights is burned out please.

gerry

 

[J-RnsxT]

why the adjustable FPR? and if so why not the AEM which bolts to the rail? with the added 255, which who knows if its REALLY needed you should have no worries with smallish 440s...and be good to go with 550's which is what i would run.

the boost juice, i am guessing is you refer to is a methonal injection...? ALA a snow setup or the like???
again, with that IC and the lower boost levels..and living in a cooler climate like NJ, i can not see the benifit.

i do find it weird that some many people have intrest in this, and so few in a turbo....what are you all former Mustang owners who havent caught up yet

just a little insurance on the fuel system is what im trying to add but with 440 or 550, he should be fine... I benefit a lot on methanol injection being here in florida. With the IC, I think this set up is pretty good. I cant wait for tax season maybe ill have enough to get a turbo setup:biggrin: . I like your turbo setup, super clean and efficient. kid, I'd go with the turbo...:wink:

 

[arfnsx]

If I remember correctly this is George Penchies(Sp?) old setup. It was quite fast but it did have a bit of a whine coming from the supercharger.

01blacks4 - I think people are with the scared of the turbo systems because of the relaiblility factor. Is there really a good turbo system without constant adjustments? I think the NSX community wants basically plug in power without having to mess with it afterwards.

 

[01blacks4]

If I remember correctly this is George Penchies(Sp?) old setup. It was quite fast but it did have a bit of a whine coming from the supercharger.

01blacks4 - I think people are with the scared of the turbo systems because of the relaiblility factor. Is there really a good turbo system without constant adjustments? I think the NSX community wants basically plug in power without having to mess with it afterwards.

well i really think that realiablity is relitive... there are plenty of cars that have blown up from a SC system yet noone ever speaks about them...they just say that u turbo is less reliable...this just isnt true.

neither one of these types of systems are any moe, or less dangerous....it just in the tuning...even the best stock NA car will blow up with crummy tunning....

as far as playing with it all time...i am not sure what you mean....i know plenty of people with turbos who never touch thier car....and plenty with SC who are always playing with them.....

as far as the pug and play...i dont know any SC system that is plug and play...even the beloved compech is an above average install. FWIw i just removed my turbo system and shipped it to it new owner. it took me one hour and 50 minutes to put the car on jack stands, remove the turbo system, wrap with bubble wrap and pack it into 3 large boxes. how much simpler can it get?


i really think that most who say they are afraid to speand the money on a turbo...really just dont want to speand the money anyway...which is fine, just say that.

oh yeah alex....valet/airport is a great idea...i was talking to someone about that last year as i travel all the time.......hope you do it

 

[Elite]

If I remember correctly this is George Penchies(Sp?) old setup. It was quite fast but it did have a bit of a whine coming from the supercharger.

01blacks4 - I think people are with the scared of the turbo systems because of the relaiblility factor. Is there really a good turbo system without constant adjustments? I think the NSX community wants basically plug in power without having to mess with it afterwards.

The people who believe that turbo's are less reliable then superchargers are likely stuck in the 80's when turbo technology was in it's infancy. Since then, things have come a long way and turbo's are extremely reliable.

If anything most superchargers are more dangerous because of the high intake air temps most have because of no intercooling/aftercooling. And this has been beaten to death, but in the end, to make a supercharger(for the NSX) as reliable as a turbo system, you end up with the same final bill.

As far as plug and play, in FI, plug and play is relative. There are a couple options already out, and a few more coming soon. But if you want to play, you should be as informed as possible because it is probably not as simple as some would like in an ideal world.

 

[NSX_NICK]

why would you say something so ignorant

HE WANTED AN OPINION AND HE GOT IT. LOOK AT IT...WOULD YOU REALLY WANT THAT ON YOUR RIDE? PLUS ITS WAY TOO CHEAP, NORMALLY WHEN THINGS ON EBAY THAT ARE PRICED THAT LOW, ITS NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT MONEY FAST, ITS BECAUSE SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH IT OR ITS PHYSICALLY DAMAGED.

I wouldn't order ANYTHING off EBAY and put it on my car, especially a turbo kit or supercharger, thats just silly I don't care if the price is right either.

It says its capable of producing 400+ hp but does not say that in 1-2 years your engine is toast, regaurdless of the tuner, either a) your the one selling it or b) you just like startin crap

 

[01blacks4]

HE WANTED AN OPINION AND HE GOT IT. LOOK AT IT...WOULD YOU REALLY WANT THAT ON YOUR RIDE? PLUS ITS WAY TOO CHEAP, NORMALLY WHEN THINGS ON EBAY THAT ARE PRICED THAT LOW, ITS NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT MONEY FAST, ITS BECAUSE SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH IT OR ITS PHYSICALLY DAMAGED.

I wouldn't order ANYTHING off EBAY and put it on my car, especially a turbo kit or supercharger, thats just silly I don't care if the price is right either.

It says its capable of producing 400+ hp but does not say that in 1-2 years your engine is toast, regaurdless of the tuner, either a) your the one selling it or b) you just like startin crap

That’s just it...your saying look at it...and i am, it actually looks like a well thought out setup, maybe you dont understand what your looking at...

as far as the price...yes its starts kind of cheap, but I am sure it will go for about 4K, if not more...so that rational has nothing to do with it

and no im not starting crap, nor am I the seller....I just hate when people who don’t know what they are talking about throw sh i t out there like they do.....you asked a good question in this forum on a different thread, and got allot of stupid answers.....now you feel like you should give them?

how do you know it will only last a year or two...regardless of the tuner? Your basing this on what KNOWLEDGE? so you don’t like it fine...but to blast on it like you have ANY knowledge of it is ignorant...stick around, read other FI forums and you may learn something...like the gt35r which you had never heard of, is the #1 selling turbo from garrett......and that guys with Honda tattoos may not show the best judgment with their own stuff, how sure are you they will with yours?

 

[NSX_NICK]

My advice = don't order ANYTHING for your NSX off ebay. EOD.

 

[01blacks4]

HA, i bought my car off ebay

 

[NSX_NICK]

 

[01blacks4]

ya know Nick that was pretty funny....but you need to grow up and go away...you are taking this WAY to personally...i didnt call you out or get personal with you..
take your holly than thou attitude and glorified opinion of the NSX and get the frick outta here....your the type of Noob that everyone always gets upset about...hell you idiot i even stuck up for you in this thread and the last and you lash out at me?...i stand corrected, not only do you post some ignorant comments...your an idiot...

sorry to everyone else for having to see our little lovers spat...

 

[NSX_NICK]

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