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Alpine Changer and HID
- Thread starter rednsx3
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for the alpine conversion you will need two extra cables or they can be modded. Make sure the Ai-net cable is Alpine since other generic ones will not work.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22606&highlight=changer
Just about all HID PNP systems work on any flip up light NSX. Im running the Autovision (German made) on my 92 NSX with no issues.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22606&highlight=changer
Just about all HID PNP systems work on any flip up light NSX. Im running the Autovision (German made) on my 92 NSX with no issues.
http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/DIY/Alpine-S634.pdfrednsx3 said:
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Crutchfield has Ai-net cable for ~$10
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-zoZpk202Vy6/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=500KCA130B&id=detailed_info#Tab
ACUALP cable ~$19
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=628
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-zoZpk202Vy6/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=500KCA130B&id=detailed_info#Tab
ACUALP cable ~$19
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=628
I'm glad so many people have found that write up useful.
nsxxtreme said:
It's awesome! I used it a couple months back to hook up my S634. (Or rather, Don at Hilltop used it.) It's a great resource for the NSX community.
Only thing is that the links on where to get the cables are out of date. I had to google around to find them. I don't know if you've still got the original around, but if you do you could update the cable links with the ones that Angelo08 posted.
rednsx3 said:
Hi
If I remember correctly they are H1 for the headlights both HI and LO. And H3 for the fogs. (I have the OEM (euro) fogs).
The kit that Steve provides is plug and play with no cutting wires or nothing.
Regards
martin said:
I 2nd this recommendation. I got tons of compliments on my kit recently at XPO '06.
mine looks better
mine driving at night.
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this is jason's aka NSXSUPRA
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/2.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/3.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/6.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/8.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NSXCC/41.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
getting warmed up, it gives that purple look, like real OEM equipped HIDs
you get unlimited range with my HIDs. it reaches farther than you can see.
notice the very sharp cut off line. its the blue tinge you see.
my friend John
my friend Demigod. Prism effect. different angle = different colors, but the road is always bright and white.
The Berlina Black is mine with 6000k HID
The Brooklands Green with 12,000k HID
here's another with mine and jason's
and here are the some more different HID color temperature in Kelvin Ratings.
My Xetronic's HID kit changes color at different angles.
you can see it here in comparison with the OEM Phillips 4300k kit
available in
4,300k Crystal white
6,000k Diamond Blue
8000k Deep Blue
12,000k Violet Purple
there's no difference in brightness in each different color, i can assure you. HID lighting design, quality and engineering has gone a long way with the Xetronics brand.
you only get jack'd if you get some other brand that claims otherwise.
to retain the dust cap, just notch out a small hole for the wires to pass through at the bottom of the dust cap. no more need to slice and splice wires or build hack-job kits.(manufactures void warranty for modifed or altered HID kits)
all you need is a file or a dremel tool, or i can do it for you, or even do the entire installation for you.
Support your local SoCal NSX CLUB!
mine driving at night.
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this is jason's aka NSXSUPRA
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/2.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/3.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/6.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NA1.5r/8.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
<img src="http://www.animegame.com/cars/NSXCC/41.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
getting warmed up, it gives that purple look, like real OEM equipped HIDs
you get unlimited range with my HIDs. it reaches farther than you can see.
notice the very sharp cut off line. its the blue tinge you see.
my friend John
my friend Demigod. Prism effect. different angle = different colors, but the road is always bright and white.
The Berlina Black is mine with 6000k HID
The Brooklands Green with 12,000k HID
here's another with mine and jason's
and here are the some more different HID color temperature in Kelvin Ratings.
My Xetronic's HID kit changes color at different angles.
you can see it here in comparison with the OEM Phillips 4300k kit
available in
4,300k Crystal white
6,000k Diamond Blue
8000k Deep Blue
12,000k Violet Purple
there's no difference in brightness in each different color, i can assure you. HID lighting design, quality and engineering has gone a long way with the Xetronics brand.
you only get jack'd if you get some other brand that claims otherwise.
to retain the dust cap, just notch out a small hole for the wires to pass through at the bottom of the dust cap. no more need to slice and splice wires or build hack-job kits.(manufactures void warranty for modifed or altered HID kits)
all you need is a file or a dremel tool, or i can do it for you, or even do the entire installation for you.
Support your local SoCal NSX CLUB!
evof575gtc said:
Hi
Impressiv post. And I do not want do diss you in any way. But what looks better? Better than what?
You are better than me with the camera. Those HID's are not easy to get a "true" picture of.
Here is mine I have 5300K I think and LED parking lights:
Did I make this into a "pissing contest" now :wink: :biggrin:
Regards
Your's look better? Matter of opinion my friend.:smile:
Wait a second. Mine look better, I'm the one on the right. McCulloch on the left, both 6000k. Much more light output with the Philips kit when driving. My price, $600 and I'll drill the holes in the dustcaps for you. :biggrin: j/k, I have nothing for sale...
flaminio said:
The problem with links is they go out of date fairly quickly.
It was updated once already. The model #'s are what's important.
evof575gtc said:
I need to chime in to state some facts and it is not a pissing contest. I am not stating these points because I sell a NSX specific kit but because I am a HID user myself.
When it comes to HID, one needs to be at least a little scientific. There have been well established facts that you have obviously disputed. Almost all aftermarket HID kits use 35w capsules/bulbs. 4100k/4300k have been measured to give the highest intensity, and the higher color temperatures have been measured with less intensities. You have repeatedly claimed that your higher color temp HIDs give the same intensities as the 4300k and you even went as far as claiming having a 20,000 kelvins HID bulb that outshines the OEM Mercedes HID. You really need to provide proof/data to substantiate your claims. These light intensities are MEASURED by meters, not some overexposed/exaggerated photos judged by naked eyes.
Also, ALL HIDs gives you that "different angles, different colors" effect so it is not just from your Xetronic kit.
As far as your comments about other HID kits are "junks", I have a different take on that. True "made in Japan" HID kits are all priced above $800 USD. There are two real Japanese brands of HIDs namely the Catz and the Bellof which are made in Japan. They are around $1k a pop and certainly very expensive and good but I don't think one needs to pay that kind of money to have a high quality HID kit nowadays. Many HID kits are now just as good and affordable. It does not need to be "Made in Japan" to be good. My Dell computer is made in China and my Nikon D80 and the 18-200mm VR zoom are made in Thailand. Many Asian countries are making products with excellent qualities. Your Xetronic is probably a decent kit but it is NOT made in Japan as you claim. It has some Japanese characters on the box but it is not "Made in Japan".
Also, you also have repeatedly claimed that your kit takes "5 minutes" to install. NSX is a high quality product with very precise assembly. A 5 minutes installation would be a total "hack job". I would love to see what the installationI looks like at the end of the 5th minutes. I have intalled at least 5 kits on NSXs before deciding on modifying the Mcculloch to sell to the NSX community. Your approach of drilling a hole on the cap to let the wiring harness outside the cap was the same approach SOS used before. The problem with this is exposing the stock harness to water, dust, and elements.
My goal is to keep all the stock components protected under the seal caps and I think I accomplished that. To do so, I needed to altered the wiring of the stock kit. Contrary to what you said as a "hack job", all wire splices are connected through old school soldering and not crimping. I also have full support and consent from my distributor that my modifications retain all factory warranty. Even if they didn't honor the warranty, the kits would not need that anyway since they have been so reliable and I would honor the warranty myself.
As far as I am concerned, if someone is so inclined to have a generic "Xetronic kit", I could cetainly sell it below your price but I don't think I would be selling a product that would live up all your claims.
As many of you know, I am doing this as a hobby and I want to sell a product that the NSX community can easily install. I believe the Mcculloch kits are in excellent quality and worthy to be used in a NSX and that's exactly why I use them in all my cars. I am a HID consumer and a long time NSXer. I have been using the best products on my NSX and the HID is no exception. Economically, it is a poor choice to spend so much time building the kit than going to do my day job. However, this hobby gives me opportunities to stay active in the NSX community and make some money which I have used for personal and charitable causes. I really have no need to call other HID dealer's products "junks" and make numerous false claims just to make a few bucks.
The NSX community deserves facts, not tall tales, not 20,000k HID bulb brighter than the OEM 4300k, not HID with "unlimited range", and certainly not a 5 minutes installation claim.
I will certainly apologize if you can provide proofs to all the aforementioned claims that you made for your kit. I am more than happy to learn more new facts about HIDs. As I said before, this is not a pissing contest but merely a discussion with appropriate and valid substantiations.
Steve
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While on the topic of HIDs, has anyone done a HID projector retrofit with their existing headlamps, as opposed to using a kit with rebased bulbs?
Of course the cost difference is huge between the two, but I'm wondering if there is a significant different when it comes to light dispersion, flicker/cutoff, etc.
Of course the cost difference is huge between the two, but I'm wondering if there is a significant different when it comes to light dispersion, flicker/cutoff, etc.
Wow Steve,
Good post. Reading your post and looking at the pics in post #19 i know who i will be calling in a couple months. I like the looks of your kit. :smile:
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comtec said:
I agree.. great post. I don't think we will have an answer from the other guy though.
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whiteNSXs said:
Out of curiousity I found this.
All Xetronic™ HID Conversion Kits are up to Japanese Industry standards (JDM) from the state-of-the-art Kameyama of Japan factory. Each kit is calibated and tested with patented Laser Photometric Calibration System® (L.P.C.S) to ensure correct color, lumination and beam pattern for supreme performance. Patented Intelligent Ignition Protection System® (I.I.P.S) offer full-time circuit protection for maximum reliability and durability.
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