Vance,
That is the major reason, but not the only reason. You might think early nsx owners are low, but I can assure you. If for any unknown reason that I have to find a replacement. I actually have always been thinking of back up. Hac, Mike, Tom. Who else? If Dan/NA1/NA2-R'S NSX is availabe, you and Serialnsxer's NSX is also available at same price. I would take Dan's without even blink. Why because it meets my criteria.
That depends, timing + right buyer. I personally think $75k is exactly what his NSX is worth. He could had sold the mods individually and get most of the money back. Most of his bloated price is from labor. Other than NSX-R suspension, CTSC, I don't find any of his mods desirable. Given same car even with CTSC I would still rather have Dan's NSX.
Take Dan for example, paid $50k+ for his NA1 with R conversion. I think he got unbelievable steal. If I do get unlucky someday. I will go straight to him and offer him quite a bit more than what he paid.
That doesn't say much, not what i have seen.
Correct me if I am wrong, I remember in your own words car salesman are losers and stupid. I can actually honestly tell you that a lot of car saleman don't know shit about cars they sell. In many cases we actually tell them a lot about cars they have on the lot than what they know.
Let me give you a final example, you told me "Jason, why didn't you bought a sport model Rolex. Why, because I bought what I wanted, I started a thread with 3 models and I stick to my gun got what I wanted. Explorer II, GMT master II are whopping $250 more new. Like new used ones are $1000 less. So you figure. People buy what they want, not what people think they should buy. Logical or not, I almost never lose money on things I bought.
Jason, you and Dan have exceptional cars, they are the few out there worth the the extra $$. But we are not talking about that.
$20 grand difference is quite large for today’s market. $30 grand (91-94) vs. $55 grand (02+). Therefore, conscious buyers will buy into the cheaper price range if that’s all they can afford. BUT, we are not talking about today, the original post was asking questions about years down the road. Perhaps, five, perhaps ten. The point is, if you believe the 1991-93 cars will continue to be worth around $30K, plus or minus a few, how much would a 05 NSX be? The price continue to drop, in fact, 02 plus cars are worth about 10 grand less than this time a year ago.
Criteria are one thing, some people like to have a coupe, but if you think about it, few actually use it for the track. In that case, a coupe will be more desirable. Again, that’s just few I have seen so far. For those who just want a comfortable, none/few mods clean NSX, eventually, earlier cars will not be in the category, due to mileage, record, etc. You may make an argument about what just said because when that happens, there will be fewer low mileage clean cars out there, which will make the car worth more, and I agree with you, but majority of them out there will not be nearly as clean as your/Dan’s NSX, which should demand more money.
If you think RyanITV’s car is worth around $75k, that’s not much more than what a 05 is worth; therefore, the Type R conversion: Procar Hood/Spoiler, Wheels, Suspension, body work, CTSC doesn’t worth any thing in your opinion? That's probably 30 grand worth of extra, and he didn't get much of it back. His car was the closest thing to my and 3 years newer. AND it only had 2k miles when sold. I agreed the timing is every thing, but he had the car on the market for a very long time, and that’s all he can get for it.
Every one of us would like to believe our car is worth every penny we ask for (when put it up in the market); however, since there are more lower price range buyers, the cheaper cars will exchange hands faster.
I do highly disagree with you regarding the NA1/NA2/02 spec being “almost” identical car. I guess basically they were built from the same platform, but the later models do have plenty of invisible but essential upgrades, which most people over look. Eric will tell you if he can afford a 02 plus car, he will be driving one in a heartbeat.
As for Dan, does he want an 02 plus, I never ask him, I don’t know, but I know there are certain parts I own he cannot put into his car, at least not cost effective. Type R ECU, 3.2, six cogs, etc.
A car is only worth what people are willing to pay, you used the Rolex analogy, I’ll use the S2k analogy. You had a budget when shopping for your S2k, but you ended up spending thousands more because you couldn’t find one that match your price vs. condition. At the end of the day, if a person want a particular car (not dreaming about a car that is completely out of the price range), he/she will do what ever he/she can to get it, regardless the price. In my case, I opt for an 02 plus, because I know that was the last evolution for my dream car. In the future, when I have more moola, I may buy another NSX just for daily driver over my currant S2k, but I will have to think really hard if I want a high mileage coupe. If the timing is right, a 91 to 94 surface up with very little miles and in great condition, it may very well be my choice. But for now, I will not drop $30 grand for a car that has around 100k miles.
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