I was thinking exactly the same. They definitely enter the supercar category when a destructive fire can occur at any time.
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By the look of things, this dentist will probably get a 458 before the new NSX. :smile:
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I was thinking exactly the same. They definitely enter the supercar category when a destructive fire can occur at any time.
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By the look of things, this dentist will probably get a 458 before the new NSX. :smile:
^ true.... but this fires are understandable while testing..... not after sales, on customer hands 
The NSX looks good even burnt up...
meh......all the best cars catch on fire.....it's like a rite of passage..........
Yes, these things happen. Atleast it happened to the NSX during testing and not with a customer. Honda will have that squared away before production for sure. I wonder if they have a backup prototype to contunue testing?
Excited at the decent trunk space, but perhaps this fire may shrink the size??? :redface:
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I found this article to be more interesting actually!
And I see it on the positive side, there must certainly be some serious power to do so. Rite of passage of big hp supercars ...
I hope so ...
The original NSX was never intended to compete with it's contemporary hypercars (F40), but its revolutionary (note not evolutionary) design was what the nsx meant to the world, at least from it's inception. It easily eclipsed much of the competition at the time (348), and it took many years (for Ferrari at least) to equal performance (F355) and considerably longer in terms of reliability (F430). Where the NSX fell behind was its lack of development over the years, as the competition furiously carried on while it remained for the most part unchanged since 1989. It certainly was not good for the NSX, nor Honda's business in sports cars.
Now if we assume that it would be a wise decision for Honda/Acura to be evolutionary and not revolutionary, then I suppose that's where we disagree. The NSX cannot just be good enough being the 'underdog' to succeed. It must be at the very least, 'twice' as good as it's competition, meaning greater performance, or equal performance and half the cost. Otherwise, the millions spent in R&D to produce a statement, a halo car, will be remembered as an exercise of mediocrity (read failure, at least from my perspective). Now you are correct in that we know little about the car, but I absolutely do care about the future of the NSX, and I hope this rant elucidates my passion for it. I most certainly want it to succeed. I feel I need to express my concerns however when I fear they are missing the point, when I find its styling to be 'adequate' but most certainly not timeless, it's track potential not likely as ground breaking as the GTR (yes I hope I'm wrong) and its sound to deliver nothing close to the drama that excites the hearts and minds of auto enthusiasts today.
"I wish my father could make sushi forever," the son says, "But eventually I'll have to take his place."
"Jiro's son must be at least twice as good just to be equal! That's how influential his father is."
Now if we assume that it would be a wise decision for Honda/Acura to be evolutionary and not revolutionary, then I suppose that's where we disagree. The NSX cannot just be good enough being the 'underdog' to succeed. It must be at the very least, 'twice' as good as it's competition, meaning greater performance, or equal performance and half the cost. Otherwise, the millions spent in R&D to produce a statement, a halo car, will be remembered as an exercise of mediocrity (read failure, at least from my perspective). Now you are correct in that we know little about the car, but I absolutely do care about the future of the NSX, and I hope this rant elucidates my passion for it. I most certainly want it to succeed. I feel I need to express my concerns however when I fear they are missing the point, when I find its styling to be 'adequate' but most certainly not timeless, it's track potential not likely as ground breaking as the GTR (yes I hope I'm wrong) and its sound to deliver nothing close to the drama that excites the hearts and minds of auto enthusiasts today.
"I wish my father could make sushi forever," the son says, "But eventually I'll have to take his place."
"Jiro's son must be at least twice as good just to be equal! That's how influential his father is."
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Fwiw: The Boss was faster than an E92 M3 on track. The 2015 Mustang GT with the Performance Package has been said to turn faster lap times than the Boss.
The Mustang sounds pretty good. Here's some info regarding the 458's successor, the proclaimed "408t". Lost is the stratospheric redline and high compression and in are new small turbos:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/next-ferrari-458-will-be-turbocharged-408t-2014-06-04
meh......all the best cars catch on fire.....it's like a rite of passage..........
Well, you could certainly add the Mazda Furai to this list.
I sincerely hope your analysis is correct so I can buy a used one in a few years at a semi-affordable price. :biggrin:
You're basically predicting that the new NSX will meet the same fate that befell the original. After the initial sales spurt is over it will become obvious that there's no substitute for snob appeal. Not only will the car lack a prestigious badge, but will be made in a non-prestigious locale.
Also the 991 GT3 were going up in flames.
I retire my comment if it is true:
''Hi,
apparently the fire was due to 2 batteries that exploded...
Nuno ''
Hi,
as i said right now in the other thread, i read that on a press release and there were no details, just that.
I think more details will surface soon, because Honda has no interest on this escalating to something worst than
it really is... let's see ....
Thanks,
Nuno
as i said right now in the other thread, i read that on a press release and there were no details, just that.
I think more details will surface soon, because Honda has no interest on this escalating to something worst than
it really is... let's see ....
Thanks,
Nuno
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Some guys here don't like the silent sound of it. I strongly believe that it's equipped with an exhaust for EU markets with their strict noise levels. It doens't have an exhaust Bypass either. For the guys in the US you can fit any aftermarket exhaust you like and turn up the volume to the level you like.
It's not pushing hard but it's amazing how calm it drives on the road. An NSX would have shown much more chassis movement.
It's not pushing hard but it's amazing how calm it drives on the road. An NSX would have shown much more chassis movement.
I still think the success of how popular this will be depends on its price. For exAmple the gtr when it was introduced at 70k vs the LFA at 450k. Not too many people will pay over 100k for an Acura just like not many people bought it back when the msrp was 88k in 1997 so they only produced less than 300 a year.
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Some General Acura Info from AutoNews
Once the TLX sedan is introduced this fall -- replacing both the TL and TSX in the lineup -- Acura will be in a product-launch lull.
All its volume products will have been launched in the last 3 years, so other than the upcoming NSX supercar, the brand will be carrying over existing product for several more years.
Of course, there will be midcycle changes, which could include installation of new 9- and 8-speed transmission technologies, but the sheet metal is going to remain relatively the same across the lineup for several years.
Acura also is studying bringing some sporting flair back to the rest of the lineup with the Type S designation, but how it plans to increase its vehicles' performance is being determined.
Here is a look at Acura's future product plans.
Once the TLX sedan is introduced this fall -- replacing both the TL and TSX in the lineup -- Acura will be in a product-launch lull.
All its volume products will have been launched in the last 3 years, so other than the upcoming NSX supercar, the brand will be carrying over existing product for several more years.
Of course, there will be midcycle changes, which could include installation of new 9- and 8-speed transmission technologies, but the sheet metal is going to remain relatively the same across the lineup for several years.
Acura also is studying bringing some sporting flair back to the rest of the lineup with the Type S designation, but how it plans to increase its vehicles' performance is being determined.
Here is a look at Acura's future product plans.
ILX: A redesign of the Honda Civic derivative comes in spring 2017. Whether Acura chooses to use a Honda Earth Dreams engine or switch to 1 of the new turbocharged mills is undetermined. The current ILX is critically underpowered, so Acura may vote for the turbo.
The Acura TLX will replace the TL and TSX sedans.
TLX: The redesigned 2015 TLX mid-sized sedan, unveiled at the 2014 New York auto show, will replace the TL and TSX sedans in the U.S. lineup. The TLX shares a 2.4-liter base engine with the Honda Accord, but the TLX's mill has higher compression ratios, a 2-stage intake and a modified exhaust. The base TLX engine generates 206 hp. It's 1.5 seconds quicker in 0 to 60 mph than the outgoing TSX. The TLX's 290-hp, 3.5-liter V-6 engine is shared with the MDX and RLX and gets 5 mpg better highway fuel economy than the outgoing TL. Both the 4- and 6-cylinder cars will have standard 4-wheel steering; the V-6 has optional Super Handling All-Wheel Drive, or SH-AWD. It goes on sale this fall, with pricing expected to be released closer to launch.
RLX: Redesigned in summer 2013. A hybrid version of the sedan was to arrive in dealerships this spring but has been delayed until late 2014.
NSX: Acura's sports car will be as much about technology as performance when it arrives in the 1st half of 2015. Instead of a monster engine, the NSX will have a compact, direct-injection V-6 combined with a lithium ion battery pack for power. The Sport Hybrid SH-AWD system uses 2 integrated drive units at the rear wheels connected to a motor-generator that delivers power. Regenerative brakes will capture electricity and then deliver torque to the outside wheel -- while absorbing negative torque from the inside wheel -- as the car goes through a corner. Development issues with the new-generation hybrid may delay the launch.
RDX: Redesigned in spring 2012. Expect the next version of the crossover in calendar 2018, with a midcycle change in spring 2015.
MDX: Redesigned in summer 2013. Expect the next version in calendar 2019, with a midcycle change in mid-2016.
The Acura TLX will replace the TL and TSX sedans.
TLX: The redesigned 2015 TLX mid-sized sedan, unveiled at the 2014 New York auto show, will replace the TL and TSX sedans in the U.S. lineup. The TLX shares a 2.4-liter base engine with the Honda Accord, but the TLX's mill has higher compression ratios, a 2-stage intake and a modified exhaust. The base TLX engine generates 206 hp. It's 1.5 seconds quicker in 0 to 60 mph than the outgoing TSX. The TLX's 290-hp, 3.5-liter V-6 engine is shared with the MDX and RLX and gets 5 mpg better highway fuel economy than the outgoing TL. Both the 4- and 6-cylinder cars will have standard 4-wheel steering; the V-6 has optional Super Handling All-Wheel Drive, or SH-AWD. It goes on sale this fall, with pricing expected to be released closer to launch.
RLX: Redesigned in summer 2013. A hybrid version of the sedan was to arrive in dealerships this spring but has been delayed until late 2014.
NSX: Acura's sports car will be as much about technology as performance when it arrives in the 1st half of 2015. Instead of a monster engine, the NSX will have a compact, direct-injection V-6 combined with a lithium ion battery pack for power. The Sport Hybrid SH-AWD system uses 2 integrated drive units at the rear wheels connected to a motor-generator that delivers power. Regenerative brakes will capture electricity and then deliver torque to the outside wheel -- while absorbing negative torque from the inside wheel -- as the car goes through a corner. Development issues with the new-generation hybrid may delay the launch.
RDX: Redesigned in spring 2012. Expect the next version of the crossover in calendar 2018, with a midcycle change in spring 2015.
MDX: Redesigned in summer 2013. Expect the next version in calendar 2019, with a midcycle change in mid-2016.
2016?
