Repaint car to "special order" factory colors?

[Midnight_Raven]

I was wondering what people think about this. For most cars, people say a repaint usually hurts the car value because it makes buyers feel like you tried to cover something up. But if someone were to repaint their NSX to a factory "special order" color like Imola Orange Pearl, Monza Red Pearl, Hockenheim Green Pearl, Lime Green, Platinum White Pearl, Magnum Grey Pearl, Estoril Turquoise Pearl, etc and documented the repaint process do you think this would actually increase the value of the car or still hurt the value?

I know if you make it a rare color it'll limit the number of potential buyers, but to those who don't care about a car having original paint, would it make it worth more than lets say an all original Formula Red 91 NSX?


(I have done a search but couldn't find a discussion about this particular topic)

Examples of rare colors:

Looks like Cranberry Red Pearl! Never seen that one before.

Found a Monza Red example

Man it's hard finding certain rare colors lol. I'll keep trying to add whatever I can find.

 

[oscar_driver]

I think that "thanks to the powers of the interwebs" as long you make it public HERE in prime, with BEFORE and AFTER photos etc, I think you would be good, to use this as reference and as a "records" to show a future buyer, like, you did for better aesthetics than just trying to redo your entire front because you hit a truck from behind

Overall painting always raises questions, but, the older our NSX's get, they will most need eventually some touch - ups etc .

Oscar

 

[dirtbag]

I REAALLLLY like that Estoril Turquoise Pearl!!!

 

[Honcho]

I'm a big fan of Imola and Platinum White. I think a full frame-up repaint with OEM quality work and attention to detail (like a new door jamb sticker with the right color code) won't hurt the value.

 

[mlambert890]

Personally I do think it would hurt value. I also think the odds are very long that anyone is going to really spend the money to truly meet or exceed OEM on a total repaint (which basically requires taking the entire car apart and sparing no expense to do right) And even after all of that, I suspect an all original formula red in nice shape is going to sell higher than a comparable total repaint - esp a color change.

That said, I think people should do whatever makes them happy.

If the car *needs* a repaint anyway, then I think there's no loss. I cant see repainting a car that has paint in great shape though - IMO thats a bad move.

"Increase" value is an absolutely no way. The VIN will no longer match the paint code. It's a "frankencar". I *love* Imola orange, but no way I'd buy a car that didnt leave the factory that way. A repaint of an *original* Imola maybe.

 

[tmagent77]

I REAALLLLY like that Estoril Turquoise Pearl!!!

Same!

I think those who re-paint dont really care about value. Seems like they rather have something they enjoy than getting their money's worth after they sell it.

Personally, I would say repaint will reduce value.

 

[myw]

well spoken. it is an eye sore to see an nsx with terrible paint, but a new yet terrible paint job is just has hurtful as well.

but painting a car because the original paint job has eroded over time i think its a good idea.

nothing beats factory quality paint imo!

If the car *needs* a repaint anyway, then I think there's no loss. I cant see repainting a car that has paint in great shape though - IMO thats a bad move.

"Increase" value is an absolutely no way. The VIN will no longer match the paint code. It's a "frankencar". I *love* Imola orange, but no way I'd buy a car that didnt leave the factory that way. A repaint of an *original* Imola maybe.

 

[Texas91Brent]

Quit worrying about resalel value or potential value or collector value, its all bullshit. If you own the nsx, paint it whatever turns you on, dont worry about the next guy. The NSX is a bargain in the sportcar world, thats probably why half of us own one. If you bought one and are thinking about resale value or even making a profit one day, I think you may have bought one for the wrong reason. I think it is so damn cool when I see a sweet looking stock or modded NSX with way over 100k miles because he or she is actually driving and enjoying the car.....thats my 5cents

 

[4AU4LIFE]

(like a new door jamb sticker with the right color code) won't hurt the value.

Um, I would completely disagree with that. For one thing, you will not be able to get a manufacturer to provide you with the exact replacement decal and then change the color code to reflect the new color. That hinges on being illegal.
Just think of it. You get a car that was originally white, it gets smashed up real bad and gets totalled and someone then repaints blue it and gets a new sticker showing that it was 'supposed' to be blue and then you find out that it wasn't and you wonder why. See where I'm going with this ???
I know Ford requires a digital image of the decal, a pencil etching of the VIN at the base of the windshield and a VERY good reason why you need that label before they will issue a replacement. They will only then consider providing you another but it takes 6-8 weeks to arrive and will not be different in any way from what came from the factory. I've even seen them send a zone rep out to see the car to verify everything before handing it over.

 

[HBui39]

just don't cheap out or do mods that would make us do a facepalm and you are ok. :wink: i came across so many awful ones in my hunt it almost turned me off of NSX's.

 

[Midnight_Raven]

Um, I would completely disagree with that. For one thing, you will not be able to get a manufacturer to provide you with the exact replacement decal and then change the color code to reflect the new color. That hinges on being illegal.
Just think of it. You get a car that was originally white, it gets smashed up real bad and gets totalled and someone then repaints blue it and gets a new sticker showing that it was 'supposed' to be blue and then you find out that it wasn't and you wonder why. See where I'm going with this ???
I know Ford requires a digital image of the decal, a pencil etching of the VIN at the base of the windshield and a VERY good reason why you need that label before they will issue a replacement. They will only then consider providing you another but it takes 6-8 weeks to arrive and will not be different in any way from what came from the factory. I've even seen them send a zone rep out to see the car to verify everything before handing it over.

The point is to change the color to another rarer color and documenting the process so that if you do one day sell it, the future owner knows what was the condition before and after the repaint. We all already know that the value will be hurt if it was done as an affect of an accident. If it was done this way I don't see changing the color code sticker as a negative but as a positive. Reason being is that now there won't be conflicting information on the car and with the documention you'll know why the VIN says the car is one color but the car is another.

I eventually do plan on repaint my car due to the paint showing it's age and usage. I really don't care about resale value after the change but I have always just wondered about this topic for a while.

I should of word my original question differently. Instead of asking about value I should of asked if NSX community think it's BAD/GOOD to change the color with documentation?

Thanks for those who did the poll hopefully we get more responses.

 

[Jetpilot3]

The point is to change the color to another rarer color and documenting the process so that if you do one day sell it, the future owner knows what was the condition before and after the repaint. We all already know that the value will be hurt if it was done as an affect of an accident. If it was done this way I don't see changing the color code sticker as a negative but as a positive. Reason being is that now there won't be conflicting information on the car and with the documention you'll know why the VIN says the car is one color but the car is another.

I eventually do plan on repaint my car due to the paint showing it's age and usage. I really don't care about resale value after the change but I have always just wondered about this topic for a while.

I should of word my original question differently. Instead of asking about value I should of asked if NSX community think it's BAD/GOOD to change the color with documentation?

Thanks for those who did the poll hopefully we get more responses.

I've thought about this as my NSX will need a repaint soon due to rock chips and general condition of the paint. I'm considering the Dark Grey or a Light Grey color keeping the canopy color black.

I believe one wouldn't care so long as:

1. Its documented here on Prime
2. High-res photos are taken for the before paint condition
3. High-end paint job is done with photos all along the process

That's my $0.02

 

[nsxot1c]

This thread cracks me up. It's about a 10-2 vote where people feel value will decrease... yet I've had countless inquiries if/when I'll sell my car. And of all the colors, it's probably the brightest/ugliest :biggrin:

If anyone is painting their car a color strictly for resale, then paint it the oem color. Prime makes me laugh because everyone is so concerned with everyone else's input and opinion. Couldn't have said it better myself Brent...

Quit worrying about resalel value or potential value or collector value, its all bullshit. If you own the nsx, paint it whatever turns you on, dont worry about the next guy. The NSX is a bargain in the sportcar world, thats probably why half of us own one. If you bought one and are thinking about resale value or even making a profit one day, I think you may have bought one for the wrong reason. I think it is so damn cool when I see a sweet looking stock or modded NSX with way over 100k miles because he or she is actually driving and enjoying the car.....thats my 5cents

:wink:

EDIT: And to think my car was one of the mega rare Midnight purple/tan to start as seen in the original post...

Alot of people Said I was crazy for respraying one of those... LOL

and now

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[myw]

smart.

very smart.

I believe one wouldn't care so long as:

1. Its documented here on Prime
2. High-res photos are taken for the before paint condition
3. High-end paint job is done with photos all along the process

That's my $0.02

 

[OneRedNSX]

I would imagine that in the end, you would be shrinking the number of interested potential buyers due to either the color or the fact it was changed... thereby meaning you really wouldn't be able to ask a 'premium' for your color (unless you did championship white I imagine)... so in the end, it would more than likely be a wash, with your car's value remaining the same but you having dumped 10k that you will never recoup into a paintjob. As long as you are doing it because you like the color and are willing to drop the coin to have it changed, I see no harm...

I vote "no change to value". Only a net loss for the owner that paints it (unless they buy one that isn't salvaged but has hideous paint and they get it at a steal).

 

[Jetpilot3]

This thread cracks me up. It's about a 10-2 vote where people feel value will decrease... yet I've had countless inquiries if/when I'll sell my car. And of all the colors, it's probably the brightest/ugliest :biggrin:

If anyone is painting their car a color strictly for resale, then paint it the oem color. Prime makes me laugh because everyone is so concerned with everyone else's input and opinion. Couldn't have said it better myself Brent...



:wink:

EDIT: And to think my car was one of the mega rare Midnight purple/tan to start as seen in the original post...

Alot of people Said I was crazy for respraying one of those... LOL

and now

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My opinion but the Midnight Pearl was the worst color for the NSX of all years. I know some people love it but yuck.

The Lime Green is superb. Its a refreshing color.

 

[Jin1976]

If it's done by factory I think the value would be the same. But who cares about the resale. Life is too short. Just repaint to the colour you like and enjoy it. I had mine painted two times already.

 

[Dynamic-uzed-auto]

Who cares abt resale value? Do what pleases you with the car and if & when you sale you take what you can get

 

[s14_tat]

My opinion but the Midnight Pearl was the worst color for the NSX of all years. I know some people love it but yuck.

The Lime Green is superb. Its a refreshing color.

Even worse than Brooklands green pearl? I'd take the purple over my color any day.

 

[V.Lats97nsx]

Save the money, buy the color you want. If you take a mint nsx and change the color than that is completely unethical. Unless your planning to keep for the rest of your life, and it should be one that has had history, please don't take a pure nsx and change it.

 

[OneRedNSX]

Save the money, buy the color you want. If you take a mint nsx and change the color than that is completely unethical. Unless your planning to keep for the rest of your life, and it should be one that has had history, please don't take a pure nsx and change it.

For the most part we are discussing special order / jdm only colors... He cant buy one so that's not an option...

 

[Midnight_Raven]

Save the money, buy the color you want. If you take a mint nsx and change the color than that is completely unethical. Unless your planning to keep for the rest of your life, and it should be one that has had history, please don't take a pure nsx and change it.

Problem is some of these colors are unattainable here in the US. So then the only option is to repaint or wait for the car to become 20 years old and then import it. IMO repaint is more feasible then having to wait till 2017-2026 to buy a car in a certain color which might not even be for sale at the time since they are so rare.

I REAALLLLY like that Estoril Turquoise Pearl!!!

Although that isn't my favorite color I agree that's a pretty damn cool color. I remember back in Grand Turismo 3 I used to win an NSX in this color all the time. I didn't even know they really produced a NSX in this color until I found this pic.

 

[Midnight_Raven]

So I went to Honda's NSX refreshment website to see how much it would cost for Honda to repaint your car to one of their pearl paints and the price is....

wait for it...


3,154,200 Yen which is equal to


wait for it.....


$39,896.21

For a custom color paint job done by Honda it would cost $47,147.66

So yeah if someone want to be super anal about the car being officially repainted by Honda the cost to do so would be ridiculously high.

Side Note:
Looking through the website I found this... I didn't know Honda officially made cup holders for the NSX lol

 

[OneRedNSX]

they didn't have the useless cupholders in 91. You aren't missing anything. i took mine out and renamed it 'the ipod hole' :biggrin:

 

[oscar_driver]

Side Note:
Looking through the website I found this... I didn't know Honda officially made cup holders for the NSX lol

I think Na2's come like that stock? I might be wrong.