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Why we don't street race

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I thought I would share this story with other Prime member. It reminded me of why it's not too bright to street race. It was yesterday and I was on my way home from work. I was stopped at a red light in heavy traffic around 5:15 pm. I had the car in neutral and was on the phone. I noticed a black Magnum pulling up into the lane to my right. The driver was maybe in his mid to late 30's. He proceeded to blip the throttle and look over in my direction. I continued talking on the phone and tried not to look too amused. The light turned green and I shifted into 1st. There where at least 10 cars ahead of us mind you and I waited for traffic to begin to move. The right lane was moving a little quicker and several car lengths developed between the Magnum and the car ahead. The driver of the Magnum dumped the pedal and did a rather impressive burnout. Unfortuantely, the driver ahead stopped rather quick. You can guess what happened next. The Magnum was now wearing the car ahead as a hood ornament. I just watched the whole event in disbelief. As I pulled up alongside the driver of the Magnum, I refrained from saying anything, it would have been too easy. I asked the driver of the hit car if he was okay and he nodded yes, although he looked fairly stunned. The driver of the Magnum was screaming and swearing at both the driver of the car ahead of him as well as me. I gave my business card to the struck driver but didn't stick around for the long wait to speak to the police. I would have liked to overhear the explanation that the Magnum driver gave though. My impression of the whole event was:
1. don't drag race on public streets
2. don't drag race on crowded public streets
3. don't sceam at the guy you just plowed into
4. have good insurance
5. have a lawyer on retainer
6. wear your seat belt
 
Bodhi said:
As I pulled up alongside the driver of the Magnum, I refrained from saying anything, it would have been too easy.
You're a better man than me. I would have been hard pressed to not give him my best Nelson Muntz "HA HA" impersonation as I went by.

Aside from that, I agree with you. When I go fast on public roads, it's with as few witnesses (and potential victims) as possible and I'm totally not interested in contests with other cars. I sometimes get people pulling up beside me with that throttle blip. I just give them a smile and shake my head.
 
Bodhi said:
As I pulled up alongside the driver of the Magnum, I refrained from saying anything, it would have been too easy. The driver of the Magnum was screaming and swearing at both the driver of the car ahead of him as well as me.

That was very good of you to not say anything to the driver of the Magnum. One dumb@ss in that situation is enough and he was clearly the biggest butthead on the road that day.
 
Always smart when I guy pulls up blip'n the throttle wanting to race with traffic ahead of you. Kind of reminds me of the time I was sitting at a stop light on my CBR with a pickup truck in front of me. Some kids pulled up and asked me to do a wheelie. I was just dumbfounded. I looked at them with disbelief and rode away.:confused:
 
KooLaid said:
Magnums are only available in automatic right??
I believe so.

plus, to be able to perform "impressive burnout", it probably was one of the hemi variants, which are all autos.

//ah crap. forgot to say : yes, street racing is bad. :)
edit: for contents
 
He got what he deserved! Feel bad for the guy he plowed into, though. It tells you a lot about the guy, when it was clearly his fault or his ego's, blaming you and the driver he hit. Candidate for the Darwin Awards....
 
mohaji said:
I believe so.

plus, to be able to perform "impressive burnout", it probably was one of the hemi variants, which are all autos.

//ah crap. forgot to say : yes, street racing is bad. :)
edit: for contents


I believe car and driver did a shoot out between the new mustang, Charger, and the GTO. Anyhow, the charger was barely able to leave 4 feet of scratch, not even rubber. So I'm wondering how the magnum managed to pull it off.
 
You know, this thread would be MUCH more interesting with pictures ;)

Should have busted out with the camera phone and snapped a few. :)

For about a year, I had this thing with taking pictures of car accidents in town. Nothing bloody or death causing but fender benders to be more accurate. When I drove by, I snapped a pic or two. LoL, yeah call me weird.
 
Very good story. And yes, it is one of the MANY reasons not to street race.

Wheelman said:
He got what he deserved! Feel bad for the guy he plowed into, though. It tells you a lot about the guy, when it was clearly his fault or his ego's, blaming you and the driver he hit. Candidate for the Darwin Awards....

If I'm not mistaken, he may prove to be a future candidate for the Darwin Awards, but I think you have to be dead to truly qualify.
 
One idiot doing a burnout in the wrong conditions & not looking where he is going does not make a street race. 2 idiots hauling ass down the road with cross streets & traffic does.
 
Touche' You are correct! There was only one. Had I been the other fool we would have both been talking to the police... That's why we (I) don't race, understand now?
 
Bodhi said:
I thought I would share this story with other Prime member. It reminded me of why it's not too bright to street race. It was yesterday and I was on my way home from work. I was stopped at a red light in heavy traffic around 5:15 pm. I had the car in neutral and was on the phone. I noticed a black Magnum pulling up into the lane to my right. The driver was maybe in his mid to late 30's. He proceeded to blip the throttle and look over in my direction. I continued talking on the phone and tried not to look too amused. The light turned green and I shifted into 1st. There where at least 10 cars ahead of us mind you and I waited for traffic to begin to move. The right lane was moving a little quicker and several car lengths developed between the Magnum and the car ahead. The driver of the Magnum dumped the pedal and did a rather impressive burnout. Unfortuantely, the driver ahead stopped rather quick. You can guess what happened next. The Magnum was now wearing the car ahead as a hood ornament. I just watched the whole event in disbelief. As I pulled up alongside the driver of the Magnum, I refrained from saying anything, it would have been too easy. I asked the driver of the hit car if he was okay and he nodded yes, although he looked fairly stunned. The driver of the Magnum was screaming and swearing at both the driver of the car ahead of him as well as me. I gave my business card to the struck driver but didn't stick around for the long wait to speak to the police. I would have liked to overhear the explanation that the Magnum driver gave though. My impression of the whole event was:
1. don't drag race on public streets
2. don't drag race on crowded public streets
3. don't sceam at the guy you just plowed into
4. have good insurance
5. have a lawyer on retainer
6. wear your seat belt


Don't take this personally as I myself have participated in both 'exhibition of speed' and cell phone use while driving, but accidents caused by talking on cell phones far exceeds those of street racing... fatalities included.

I know a lot of people who "get-it-on" on city streets, but it seems more like the guy in the Magnum just wasn't paying enough attention. So, I will do the honors of adding to your list of things to do while driving...

7) Pay attention!


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nsx1 said:
...So, I will do the honors of adding to your list of things to do while driving...

7) Pay attention!


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This is my all-time favorite piece of advice, since it applies so aptly to most endeavors in life.

It's exactly the same piece of advice that world-class poker player Eric Seidel gives to those who ask him how to play better poker: PAY ATTENTION!
 
Well, THAT wasn’t street racing as I know it, that was stupidity. Is “street racing” only drag racing through a neighbourhood to you?
I have never drag raced from a red light, red lights are in cities for gods sake, that’s dangerous. And drag racing is dumb anyway, not on safety grounds, just because it is boring and says nothing about the ability to drive a car fast.

That’s is not what I call street racing.

For me street racing is like this:

Driving sort of sportily home from work along a curvy road through the fields and slight hills I catch a Maserati (the big one, don’t know the name) driving not too fast and I easily pass him at my current speed. Not street racing, just driving at my pace.

But he doesn’t like that and later blasts past me (I let him go by unhindered, of course, even pull over slightly for him) on the straight followed by a rather nasty curve. This is in the fields mind you, no houses or children anywhere. He goes around the nasty curve at a speed I never though was possible, even in my NSX. Well it seemed like that, anyway. He must have been right on the limit, but that is why he bought the car I guess.

I chased him and caught him. But I couldn’t pass, and wasn’t going to try, that would have been stupid.
This guy could really drive that big car!

It was a narrow country road.
The road was clear and we could see around all the bends. Top speed was about 140 kph (85mph), but slower in the curves.
Bear in mind not a day goes by that I (and many others) don’t drive more than 100mph (even in a normal family car) for an extended time, like for 20 minutes solid if it is a long journey. Here we (not just me) often do 75mph on crowded, non motorway roads through outskirts of towns etc. and there aren’t particularly many accidents. I live close to Brussels, the capital of Europe, so it is not exactly a desert.

It was enjoyable and after some time he turned left and I turned right. I knew I wasn’t as good a driver as he was, and I wasn’t about to go above my limit. He obviously also did not go above his limit.

That is street racing (to me).

Was that dangerous?

Please tell me what you think, I ask sincerely. I don’t mean to wind you up. I write this in the service of discussion.
But I don’t think it was dangerous. Driving through the city is more likely to result in an accident than racing.
I don’t think your example of street racing is a good one to make your point. What that Magnum guy did was pure stupidly, not racing. He made a mistake, and had an accident. Racing? No.
Showing off more like.
Maybe your view of street racing is that way because of the heavily built up nature of large American cities.
But not everybody street races in situations like that.

Another example of street racing is this:
I decide to go to the Nuerburgring for the afternoon. Just to watch maybe. It is 20 minutes on the motorway at about 100mph – 110 mph (and maybe 90 mph past Liege, a large and crowded Belgian city), then a very enjoyable 45 minutes of twisty country roads.

On the way I meet many (and get passed by) other people, some of whom are also going to the Ring. Some have very powerful cars, much more than my NSX.
Also there are many fast motorcycles and the amount of fast cars and fast motorcycles increases as one approaches the Ring.
Of course there is a lot of very spirited driving and racing. Everybody is safe and courteous to another car passing etc.
But with the amount of traffic coming the other way, you have to be very aggressive and get a move on if you want to pass and stay ahead of the cars and motorcycles chasing you.
And chase they do.
There are lots of cars climbing up your tail pipe so that is what you do; get a move on.

Through the villages everybody drives slow even the young kids on fast bikes.

As we come out of the villages and onto a straight section speeds can very quickly be up to 200kph, and that passing normal traffic (2 lane road, one lane in our direction, the other lane opposing traffic). With a trail of 5 cars and bikes trying to pass each other.
Then into another twisty part, also at a high speed, this all requires judgment in braking and negotiating bumps and traffic and is enjoyable.

The fast cars and bikes are being used for what they were designed for.

That to me is street racing.
To me and many others the trip to the Nürburgring is one great street race.

Dangerous and sinful?

Peter:smile:
 
710 said:
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I decide to go to the Nuerburgring for the afternoon. Just to watch maybe. It is 20 minutes on the motorway at about 100mph – 110 mph (and maybe 90 mph past Liege, a large and crowded Belgian city), then a very enjoyable 45 minutes of twisty country roads.

On the way I meet many (and get passed by) other people, some of whom are also going to the Ring. Some have very powerful cars, much more than my NSX.
Also there are many fast motorcycles and the amount of fast cars and fast motorcycles increases as one approaches the Ring.
Of course there is a lot of very spirited driving and racing. Everybody is safe and courteous to another car passing etc.
But with the amount of traffic coming the other way, you have to be very aggressive and get a move on if you want to pass and stay ahead of the cars and motorcycles chasing you.
And chase they do.
There are lots of cars climbing up your tail pipe so that is what you do; get a move on.

Through the villages everybody drives slow even the young kids on fast bikes.

As we come out of the villages and onto a straight section speeds can very quickly be up to 200kph, and that passing normal traffic (2 lane road, one lane in our direction, the other lane opposing traffic). With a trail of 5 cars and bikes trying to pass each other.
Then into another twisty part, also at a high speed, this all requires judgment in braking and negotiating bumps and traffic and is enjoyable.

The fast cars and bikes are being used for what they were designed for.

That to me is street racing.
To me and many others the trip to the Nürburgring is one great street race.

Dangerous and sinful?

Peter:smile:

To me, that just sound like good fun. :)
As long as all the other parties involved are respectful of the road rule and each other in safe environment, then there's probably not that much wrong with that.

Colour me confused, but we probably have different definition of "street racing" in North America than what you describe.
 
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH. It is nice to see a person using the dome sitting on their shoulders. Very mature of you to not give in to a childish, immature, stupid, dangerous, and ILLEGAL act. Many props to you.
 
92NSX said:
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH. It is nice to see a person using the dome sitting on their shoulders. Very mature of you to not give in to a childish, immature, stupid, dangerous, and ILLEGAL act. Many props to you.
I assume you are being sarcastic. ?
Oh dear.
Do you pull a caravan by any chance?

:smile:
 
Bodhi - you handled that really sensible; checked the driver was okay and left your card.


bodypainter said:
You're a better man than me. I would have been hard pressed to not give him my best Nelson Muntz "HA HA" impersonation as I went by.

Something like this...? :D
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I was filling up with gas a couple pf days ago and a kid,18-20, asked me if I raced and he meant on the streets. I told him no it was stupid, and he was like really??? After that we talked for a bit about the car.
 
710 posted about, um, 'spirited' driving through non-city areas, good lines-of-sight, no traffic.

Does sound like fun. But here's the rub: it's not a controlled environment. You can't anticipate the oil on the road, the wet spot, the deer or dog crossing your path (not to mention the totally unexpected pedestrian).

And if you're on a public road, at or near the limit, and something untoward does indeed happen, there's no spotters or corner workers to come rushing to your aid, or to call the emergency vehicle standing by.

That said, yes, guilty as charged, but definitely not as I have gotten older.
 
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