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Hope you guys save your brass. There's a large, growing market for spent cartridges even if you don't reload yourself.
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Anyone else ordering an AR today?
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Ya'll are talking 300/600 "boxes" of 20 right?
Cheap asses.:tongue: I was impressed at 600 boxes, LOL.
That's just Zombie slime. It will come off with some elbow grease and acetone.
Nice 45acp what grip did you use? S, M, L you can just change it out if your hand if too large.
Yep.
I have a Dillion 550b progressive press.
This is why I have (2) 5 gallon buckets of reloaded .223 rounds.
Plus much more ......
Thanks Jeff. I haven't changed out the backstraps to see what's most comfortable yet. Spent a good portion of last night cleaning the thing off and lubing it. Lots of cosmoline on the thing.
Just went back to the website since I was considering ordering more today (got my initial order today) and the price has gone up already.
Will need to order 1200 rounds just to get the price back down to $8.33/box. I knew I should've ordered more the other day
Edited: Tried to add it to my cart and it is now on backorder.
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I used to get 223 for $170 per 1000 just a few years ago....doh!
With what happened in Oakland to the officers, I am sure there will be alot of people supporting the ban :frown:
I think it should be pointed out to them that if the current laws were effectively enforced, the guy wouldn't have had the AK in the first place. I agree with you though, I think cries for more gun control will be stronger.
On another note, what I've learned about the HK45:
- spare mags are EXPENSIVE, $60-68 bucks, each.
- lack of an aftermarket (no holsters, other mag manufacturers, no aftermarket barrels, etc.)
- slide and frame "looser" than some 1911s I've handled. Guess it's to be expected.
- feels a lot like a 1911 but still different.
If this shoots anything like the USP, I'm going to be very happy.
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Probably, but I always ask this question in that kind of situations.
Was that gun legally obtained? If not, what good would a ban do? Banning guns won't stop criminals from getting them. Drugs are illegal too aren't they?
Also, guns don't kill people. People kill people. Anything can be used as a deadly weapon. Knives, baseball bats, rocks, cars, etc. Lets ban all those things too. Don't blame the gun. If this POS wasn't out of prison, he wouldn't have even been able to kill.
Anyone with a felony history cannot legally obtain/own a gun of that nature and my guess any gun for that matter.
Exactly!
Dumb question... As much as I am a fan of AR and AK variants, how practical are they for home defense? I can see the point of having one in case if there is some sort of civil unrest like the Rodney King riots or right after Katrina where law and order is completely non-existent but would it be a bit of an overkill against a single intruder or burglar at night? There would be a greater chance of these rounds going through walls, hitting your neighbors right?
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IMO, for an experienced user, any gun would be ok for home defense, however, the AK and AR may be a bit of overkill unless you have a huge property and are under seige by several people. Yeah, the rounds will easily go through sheetrock into other rooms and possibly cause unnecessary harm.
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Let me chime in...that's not a dumb question, but logically coming from a view of you and I both living in so-cal its not that practical to use for home defense, reason being..as mentioned it can go through walls, even your neighbors wall. I know several people that live in o.c with ar15's that use it for sport shooting it's a good weapon for medium range.
I doubt in so-cal we have to worry about katrina, but think about a large earthquake...it would be katrina like, a riot...yes that is in the possibility. As for home protection, look at Yellow nsx's post...a shot gun would get a great choice, you can buy shells that do not penetrate wall's but he has a higher end one which is semi automatic...a pump one would be fine, once an intruder hears the "shuck, shuck" of a pump they will be most likely to flee. Downside to a shotgun is that it is hard to conceal in the house do to the size. I personally use a Sig 229 for home protection, there have been instances where I did awake to weird noises and had to grab it...luckily a false alarm...I recommend having a gun, before its too late.
Once again, why do people always think the racking of a pump shotgun will scare any intruder? You guys are thinking of the perfect situation, but what if you only have a split second to react? What if the intruder has the jump on you and he's locked and loaded with his sights on you already? You think the racking of the slide is gonna scare him then?
A home of self defense gun has to be chambered and ready at all times. When it's either kill or be killed you ain't got time to be racking no slide.
From what I understand, there are two diverging conventional wisdoms about the above:
- home defense gun should have a round in the chamber. Reason being that if you need it for immediate defense, the firearm should be ready to go at a moment's notice.
- home defense gun should be loaded but not chambered. Reason being that the dreariness of sleep may cause you to make bad decisions with a firearm and chambering a round will cause the shooter to be that much more conscious and aware of what exactly is happening.
I chose the latter from advice from one of the shooting classes I attended a couple years ago. It made sense at the time but that's hoping that the intruder doesn't get the drop on me. Choices choices choices...
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I basically wrote the exact same thing last night but thought it mightve been a bit verbose. I completely agree and after Katrina, I flew home to Houston, got her a new shotgun. She was initially hesitant and insisted that her 9mm would be sufficient, but I have always insisted on grabbing the shotgun first. No precise aiming necessary and even if you missed, the blast would be plenty to deter someone. Her's has one in the chamber with the safety on.
I agree and I think furthermore it depends on the level of security that you have in the home and whether or not there are other people involved like children. My handguns are always chambered, but I do keep them in my safe (Sorry...LockSAF plug kinda...) and at the same time I have access in 2 seconds. If there are children or inexperienced users around, I really don't think a loaded firearm in a drawer is your best bet.
Someone PLEASE answer this as I am moving myself and my business to OC this Monday and the gun laws that I am reading are ridiculous. Yesterday was completely disgusting as a sherriff in OC attempted to revoke CCW permits without a legal reason from law-abidding people a few days after a criminal that was let out too early by the state shot 5 officers with an illegal weapon. Awesome. Can't wait to witness stupidity everyday.
I think you are fine either way. There is a 99% chance that you will probably not be involved in some sort of fire fight in your home, so keeping it unchambered is not a terrible choice by any means. Again, you are much more prone to have your home burglarized when you are not at home so do find a way to secure the firearm. Before I had my safes, I had my primary sidearm chambered and the other ones available but unchambered.
No one makes a good AK or 762x39 round but for a 5.56, .223 these DO work in a 60, 75g if your AR is 1x7 to 1x9 twist.
People can buy "BLACK BOX" TAP. LE is "RED BOX" only for FET Tax out crap.
http://www.hornadyLE.com/
Put about 100 rounds through the HK45 today and picked up some more 223 and some defensive 45ACP ammo too.
The HK was pretty good shooter. At least better than what I could do with it. Recoil wasn't bad at all. Felt a lot like the USP. I think the trigger is better in my 92FS though.
The HK was pretty good shooter. At least better than what I could do with it. Recoil wasn't bad at all. Felt a lot like the USP. I think the trigger is better in my 92FS though.
