60-100MPH times for a SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX

[BATMANs]

Here's an interesting quote about his SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX from CPTNSX:

...... plus a couple of 3rd gear WOT blasts (for A/F ratio verification) with a few 60 to 100 in 3.9 secs logs to confirm my .......

It seems to be very believable given the power to weight ratios according to this calculator:

Power to Weight: 391 bhp/ton
0-60: 3.7
0-100: 7.7
60-100: 4.0
1/4 Mile ET: 11.71
1/4 Mile Terminal: 124
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 11.51
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 128


http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?pid=mph60_100

For reference; the stock NSX was posting 8.4 seconds.

Just look at the league of cars the SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX can beat and hang with. It's pretty impressive and makes me feel good about the $$$ I spent.

Yes there are faster turbo'd NSX, but for us California guys the SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX is a much more viable option.

LarryNSX got busted in what I think was a VR6 for having a boost controller, etc. and received a stiff fine and had to spend all this $$ and time to return the car back to stock and have the state ref do a thorough (with special engine bay inspection mirrors) go over and then it had to pass the sniffer on a smog dyno.

For those of you that are on the bench between a SOS SC or a Turbo'd NSX, just consider that if you had to sell the NSX (ie - unforeseen job loss, etc.), it's much easier to sell the NSX in a tough smog state like CA with the SOS SC than with a turbo'd equipped car.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Here's an interesting quote about his SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX from CPTNSX:



It seems to be very believable given the power to weight ratios according to this calculator:

Power to Weight: 391 bhp/ton
0-60: 3.7
0-100: 7.7
60-100: 4.0
1/4 Mile ET: 11.71
1/4 Mile Terminal: 124
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 11.51
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 128


http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?pid=mph60_100

For reference; the stock NSX was posting 8.4 seconds.

Just look at the league of cars the SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX can beat and hang with. It's pretty impressive and makes me feel good about the $$$ I spent.

Yes there are faster turbo'd NSX, but for us California guys the SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX is a much more viable option.

LarryNSX got busted in what I think was a VR6 for having a boost controller, etc. and received a stiff fine and had to spend all this $$ and time to return the car back to stock and have the state ref do a thorough (with special engine bay inspection mirrors) go over and then it had to pass the sniffer on a smog dyno.

For those of you that are on the bench between a SOS SC or a Turbo'd NSX, just consider that if you had to sell the NSX (ie - unforeseen job loss, etc.), it's much easier to sell the NSX in a tough smog state like CA with the SOS SC than with a turbo'd equipped car.

So are your numbers all estimations or did you get the numbers via a v-box or other recording device?

I'd love to see what your 60-130 times are...6speed has a pretty comprehensive list of 60-130 times for stock and modified cars. Would be very interesting to see where a F/I NSX places.

 

[Brylek]

Those numbers look very optimistic.

 

[NetViper]

Here's an interesting quote about his SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX from CPTNSX:



It seems to be very believable given the power to weight ratios according to this calculator:

Power to Weight: 391 bhp/ton
0-60: 3.7
0-100: 7.7
60-100: 4.0
1/4 Mile ET: 11.71
1/4 Mile Terminal: 124
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 11.51
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 128

No chance that car is going to run 124MPH

 

[dablackgoku1234]

Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 7.7s
Honda NSX 8.4s

what...:frown:

 

[Hapa88]

Here's an interesting quote about his SOS SC + Laminova IC NSX from CPTNSX:



It seems to be very believable given the power to weight ratios according to this calculator:

Power to Weight: 391 bhp/ ton
0-60: 3.7
0-100: 7.7
60-100: 4.0
1/4 Mile ET: 11.71
1/4 Mile Terminal: 124
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 11.51
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 128

I think your weight is incorrect. 1 ton = 2000 lbs (that's some serious weight reduction!!!).


When I did I got this for 391 bhp and a 3000 lb (1360 kg) NSX:

Power to Weight: 292 bhp/ton
0-60: 4.4
0-100: 9.3
60-100: 4.9
1/4 Mile ET: 12.36
1/4 Mile Terminal: 115
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 12.16
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 118

 

[nils]

for comparison... turbo numbers... 11.9psi... 2950lbs fully wet...

HKS Fcon Vpro datalog...

30-50mph-1.7 sec
30-60mph-2.1 sec
30-100mph-5.8 sec (1 shift)
30-116mph-7.35 sec (1 shift)

 

[BATMANs]

for comparison... turbo numbers... 11.9psi... 2950lbs fully wet...

HKS Fcon Vpro datalog...

30-50mph-1.7 sec
30-60mph-2.1 sec
30-100mph-5.8 sec (1 shift)
30-116mph-7.35 sec (1 shift)

How does that correspond to my numbers? Is it reasonable?

 

[Hapa88]

I guess I'm missing some info, cuz last I remember cptnsx's dynoed at:

412.3 rwhp 314.5rwtq at 7.2 psi

Which would make his numbers read like this (assuming he's 3000 lbs)

Power to Weight: 318 bhp/ton
0-60: 4.1
0-100: 8.8
60-100: 4.7
1/4 Mile ET: 12.16
1/4 Mile Terminal: 117
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 11.96
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 121

Bats, the numbers you posted were for 500 BHP, where did that come from?

 

[BATMANs]

.....Bats, the numbers you posted were for 500 BHP, where did that come from?

yes.

I was assuming that the calculator was asking for 500HP to the crank not the wheels.

So I factored in drive train loss of around 17% off the top of my head. Probably + or - a few HP, but nothing really major.

 

[NetViper]

yes.

I was assuming that the calculator was asking for 500HP to the crank not the wheels.

So I factored in drive train loss of around 17% off the top of my head. Probably + or - a few HP, but nothing really major.

Drivetrain loss on a NSX is more like 12%, though not sure with the SC.

 

[cptnsx]

I guess I'm missing some info, cuz last I remember cptnsx's dynoed at:



Which would make his numbers read like this (assuming he's 3000 lbs)

Power to Weight: 318 bhp/ton
0-60: 4.1
0-100: 8.8
60-100: 4.7
1/4 Mile ET: 12.16
1/4 Mile Terminal: 117
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 11.96
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 121

Bats, the numbers you posted were for 500 BHP, where did that come from?

Very close.
0-60: 3.9
0-100: 8.4
60-100: 4.4
1/4 Mile ET: n/a
1/4 Mile Terminal: n/a
60 ft: 2.114
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile ET: 12.15
Dragstrip 1/4 Mile Terminal: 120.5

I did 60-130 in 9.6 secs. Vegas weather does impact so maybe another 1 or 1.5 miles in the quarter at sea level and cooler weather. I had cool weather (Nov 09) for the drag run above.

My 3.9 60-100 runs have been in this cold weather (for Vegas) and after the B-Line intake install with a different 9 inch Amsoil filter. Before that it was 4.1 in the cold weather. I'm also seeing 9 psi at around 7700-8000K. I believe for the drag run above I only logged 8 psi at the very top.

When I look at that 0-130 log, I see how much shifting costs. All my shifts were around .35 sec (off throttle) the 2nd to 3rd was almost .4 sec. Because of this my 60-100 time is faster in just 3rd then 2nd and 3rd (short gears + 4.235 R&P).

I'm pretty satisfied, I only do 60-100 runs now to verify my A/F is correct as the weather changes. I'm not willing to risk 4th gear WOT runs.

 

[CB72]

I also do 3rd gear WOT runs to tune my car.
With a stage 2 Lovefab turbo kit, I measured on the AEM Log an ET of 3.98 sec for the 60 to 100mph run in 3rd gear.
I haven't had the opportunity to measure the power output but according to Cody I'm well in the 400WHP range with 8psi boost.
I can believe that !

 

[brandonsan]

No chance that car is going to run 124MPH

Ditto. I would say 119-121 MPH max trap speed.

 

[kookoo4nsx]

I got about 119 mph running about 7.5 to 8 lbs boost on my Angus setup. I think a little clutch slip in 2nd gear hurt my 1/4 miles times. At that point my HP at the dyno was just over 400 at the wheels. The only weight reduction was removing the spare. I also kept stock tire pressure so with a drop down to the 25 psi mark, I would have had better results.

I've turned boost down the the 5psi range to preserve clutch until finances permit. 5psi is still plenty of fun.

 

[A.S. Motorsport]

So these calculations are estimates from a online program and not actual facts?

I do recall times being posted up from a turbo NSX a few months ago.
I generally keep 15% drive trian loss as a standard for quick calculations and about 25% for AWD

 

[BATMANs]

14% drivetrain loss from some C&D video, I think

 

[Blacknot]

With traction and and a good launch I would say 12.30's around 120mph with a 3,000 lb car and 420whp. The calculators are with 100% traction like a 1.5 60ft time and a good driver. A lot of guys without experience at a drag strip are pulling 2-2.3 60ft times which can turn a 12.3 into a 12.8

 

[funkynsx]

I'm installing my sos stage 1 engine and sos sc and laminova soon.
Running on 98 fuel(which is premium fuel in Australia)It would'nt surprise me to get somewhere close to those figures.
Alot would come down to tyres and traction in the lower gears.

 

[TURBO2GO]

How are you getting the car Past inspection without a CARB certificate?

 

[PerformanceOne]

Or you can buy a 94'-01' Acura integra, build a B Series or K series turbo 4c cyl. fwd engine and hit 9's or 10's all day ;O)

Full Interior:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj01TJ6WJx0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs1zjndVuyE

 

[HBui39]

How are you getting the car Past inspection without a CARB certificate?

thats what i was thinking... he isn't passing legally thats for sure. CTSC is the only truly CA Legal solution.

 

[Blacknot]

Or you can buy a 94'-01' Acura integra, build a B Series or K series turbo 4c cyl. fwd engine and hit 9's or 10's all day ;O)

Full Interior:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj01TJ6WJx0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs1zjndVuyE

That's what I did. 95 civic coupe 703whp. The Nsx is way better. Lol

 

[HBui39]

That's what I did. 95 civic coupe 703whp. The Nsx is way better. Lol

thats the thing, no matter how much power its making, its still just a civic. this guy came up to me to ask about my NSX and he went on and on about how he has a civic with lots of power and he is in magazines and how he smokes NSX's all the time. i said "cool man" and went on with my life, perfectly content with my car choice while he drools at my car as i drive away.

 

[Blacknot]

thats the thing, no matter how much power its making, its still just a civic. this guy came up to me to ask about my NSX and he went on and on about how he has a civic with lots of power and he is in magazines and how he smokes NSX's all the time. i said "cool man" and went on with my life, perfectly content with my car choice while he drools at my car as i drive away.

I agree. My civic cost me a fortune to build. I know that sounds funny but 700whp isnt cheap. I'm really happy i got to experience driving a 2,300lb car with that kind of power to weight ratio. I'm really happy with my nsx at 365whp. There are always faster cars out there and you will go broke trying to keep up. I'm not going to lie. Eight years ago i was like the guy you describe. Alot of sleepless nights and hard work going into building something like that. I might only be a Civic but the owner is proud just like you are of your car. Some people think fast=nice and that is not the case:wink: