Dave,
>Wow, here I thought you were an engineer or some automotive type that knew what they were doing.
we may not win all the time but we know what winning looks like. Your system IS the ideal with hard lines but its not possible nor affordable for the common folks like us. You want to add extra weight and not knowing what exact position you are at its your choice.
We don't need to second guess Tilton. Mac has people who knows what they are doing. its just fine the way it is and they have both screw type and lever type. both has the exact location for input and output so its up to the end user to buy what he wants and it will mount at the exact location for both types.
Sorry my engineering skills let you down. I only have experience with GTP cars not production cars. They never taught us how to spell UCSB either but last I checked, we have good aim. I won't spend my time to bend hard lines like you did which is not a solution for most. we will never duplicate what you did to your car as no one can afford to buy it and the trade off is not an issue using DOT lines....the beach is calling again.
>...... the technical aspect of P-valve,
split point, crack-point or "knee," no mention of the post-knee pressure reduction slope, and most importantly, trail-braking or it's impact on dry and wet braking (weight transfer effects). These are things that real engineers know about, and how they integrate all of a vehicle's design inputs into a safe ABS and proportioned-braking system.
this part is not for people like you. its better stay with mother Honda. Fluids is not that hard to understand and we are not here to teach, educate people how to drive. thats their job to read and watch Youtube or take a class with Billy and learn to adapt.
Owning a NSX, one should have enough experience modding cars in the past and understand what we doing here. Why should we put on a part that has twice the weight and different port locations to complicate the kit? The problem is not about few oz., its the thinking behind it. Yes, every little weight do counts and they all add up. We going to offer 3 Ti bolts for extra $25 bucks and I hope that is ok with you or do you want technical explanation too?
If you don't trust us, do buy from us. Its quite ok.
>Between this latest post and your carbon bumper beam thread, it's clear that you are hiding under the guise of a knowledgeable person and just spouting off that "it's lighter" and other criteria that make little sense when applied to a particular parts' real design functions.
I am a ricer by birth not by trade. I do have a Nacho Libre mask in my closet. I don't need to show off my credentials. I just need to list them and make parts to help my car and others to have a lower lap time. That does not mean our stuff won't break. There are many ways to skin a cat. If you follow our recipe of mods, your car will be faster but we can't be sure if the driver can be made faster. Every new part that is made from 1.0 to 2.0 may have some crappy-ness to it as 2.0 is not as seasoned as 1.0 but its how we make progress.
>And FYI for those actually wanting to learn - these valves are basically spring-loaded spool valves. Wilwood happens to use a steel body (bore) with brass internals to stand up to long-term abuse... because we know how those hot-rodders are
Exactly. For me to question Tilton is fruitless, Wilwood and Russell are less found on top level racing cars and thanks for educating us. I don't dare to ask how much time you spent on making/bending/revising those hardlines. There are too many waves we need to catch before the swell goes down.
No, we won't discuss detail tech topics here as you described. If we did that, we'll be typing our fingers to the bone and get no peace and no sleep. You demonstrated perfectly in your reply why we won't get into discussion like this.
You did the right thing=> If you want things done the right way? you gotta do it yourself.
Dave, take the challenge, start making and selling your own parts. They are really nice.
You Win!! We agree to disagree. You think we blow smoke, thats ok, at least we will ship and we have shipped unlike other vendors we all know. Two more are going to Guam on Monday and we provide 3 Ti bolts so it will never rust for extra $25 and thats a pretty good deal. We respect your reply, for that, we are willing to send you the Russell valve for free if you provide your address in exchange you type and explain all the topics that we missed.
Now excuse me....I need to go take my meds.