CTSC reconditioning/refurbishing/rebuild

RYU · 24 July 2012

I'm thinking ahead and will one day want to rebuild my CTSC.

Who are the vendors that do this? The work needed is pretty straightforward. The bearings should be relatively universal. Having a replacement snout and/or housing on the other hand might be difficult if the parts are not in stock but I think rarely needed.

I'm assuming Autorotors may be serviceable by Kenne Bell and Whipple with someone else?

PSE seems to come up often from an online search but there's been some horror stories from these guys unfortunately.

I'm considering Magnusson who's local to me but I believe they only do Eaton/Magnusson blowers. I have to inquire if they will rebuild an Autorotor and/or Whipple. They quoted me a full rebuild of my TRD blower for only $300 and I trust their work.
http://www.magnacharger.com/

Anyone else have positive experiences elsewhere?

PerformanceOne · 24 July 2012

This guy rebuilds superchargers, and also modifies them to work mor efficiently = more power.

http://theoldone.com/

junior40er · 24 July 2012

in for this because I know one day my CTSC can benefit for a referesh. It has low miles now but down the road I know it will have normal wear and tear.

clr1024 · 24 July 2012

PerformanceOne said:
This guy rebuilds superchargers, and also modifies them to work mor efficiently = more power.

http://theoldone.com/

I was going to say Endyn, as they used to years ago, but didn't see that on their website.

Blacknot · 24 July 2012

PSE is a nightmare I learned the hard way. When i searched i couldnt find many companies that rebuild them but most were $600-800 so $300 is very inexpensive

bboxer · 24 July 2012

Blacknot said:
PSE is a nightmare I learned the hard way. When i searched i couldnt find many companies that rebuild them but most were $600-800 so $300 is very inexpensive

I fully agree! PSE, ususally recommended by most SC people has been a nigtmare. 2 weeks after recieving my sc (!), they finally informed ne that it was beyond recnditioning and offered me a replacement (the new 1600cc unit) with intake modification for about $3,500. i did not go for it and that was 15,000 miles go. Now the unit is very "loose" and i suspect i will need a new unit because the impellers (not just the bearings and the bushings) are worn down. Anyone knows where i could get a new or slightly used original CT scew unit?

RYU · 25 July 2012

Blacknot said:
PSE is a nightmare I learned the hard way. When i searched i couldnt find many companies that rebuild them but most were $600-800 so $300 is very inexpensive

I called and Magnusson will not service a Autorotor unfortunately. Still waiting to hear back if they'll do the Whipple. Likely not since I know for sure they do the Eaton Roots type but Whipple/Autorotor is a bit different.

PerformanceOne said:
This guy rebuilds superchargers, and also modifies them to work mor efficiently = more power.

http://theoldone.com/

These guys won't service an Autorotor either. I forgot to ask about the Whipples.

bboxer said:
I fully agree! PSE, ususally recommended by most SC people has been a nigtmare. 2 weeks after recieving my sc (!), they finally informed ne that it was beyond recnditioning and offered me a replacement (the new 1600cc unit) with intake modification for about $3,500. i did not go for it and that was 15,000 miles go. Now the unit is very "loose" and i suspect i will need a new unit because the impellers (not just the bearings and the bushings) are worn down. Anyone knows where i could get a new or slightly used original CT scew unit?

For the price, you might give Shad a call and upgrade to the 2.3L unit. Seems like a viable option given the cost. Still not ideal though. The 1.6-1.7L works well for a street car.

I'm glad my Autorotor hasn't shown signs of aging yet. Most of you folks needing a rebuild are using the Whipple/Lysholm unit, yes?

I'll keep hunting. The bearings should be relatively universal.. it's the screws that are proprietary but exploring options to re-coat them might be viable. I'm sure i'll find someone out there. Still a few avenues I haven't had time to pursue yet...

goldNSX · 27 July 2012

So, after how many miles do you expect a revision of a supercharger?

type-j · 27 July 2012

Would SOS be able to rebuild it? Also wondering how many miles before a rebuild. Mime has about 15k miles on it

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bboxer · 27 July 2012

There are two prinicipal ways the SC gets worn.
One is the bearings/bushings including the ones in the snout. Those can be replaced as long as the holes they fit in the casing have not been elongated.
The second and more lethal scenario is when the two impellers are worn beyond the allowed clearance. I believe that is the point of no return as no new impellers are available. I think this where mine is after a little over 50K miles.
See the following thread
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164164

goldNSX · 27 July 2012

Do you loose boost pressure?

bboxer · 27 July 2012

Yes you do.

RYU · 27 July 2012

Just for comparison's sake.. I have over 110k miles on my TRD roots supercharger and it's still holding the same measurable boost as TRD advertised. I know this is a case of YMMV unfortunately.

It would be logical to think that bad bearings will accelerate the wear of the impellers tremendously. Do you this is what happened in your case BBoxer?

goldNSX · 27 July 2012

The impellers are linked with a coupler. The impellers have their own bearings regardless of the tension of the belt, right?

Hrant · 27 July 2012

bboxer said:
There are two prinicipal ways the SC gets worn.
One is the bearings/bushings including the ones in the snout. Those can be replaced as long as the holes they fit in the casing have not been elongated.
The second and more lethal scenario is when the two impellers are worn beyond the allowed clearance. I believe that is the point of no return as no new impellers are available. I think this where mine is after a little over 50K miles.
See the following thread
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164164

Hmmmm, knowing the prior history of your blower, I don't think it was driven that hard or shortchanged on maintenance though it has been on the track few times. So at 50K miles showing such symptoms is a bit peculiar unless (a) initially the tolerances were at the very margin and hence now they are showing symptoms of wear; or (b) something else is happening.

White92 · 27 July 2012

Blacknot said:
PSE is a nightmare I learned the hard way. When i searched i couldnt find many companies that rebuild them but most were $600-800 so $300 is very inexpensive

I remember reading about that here Anything new happen since then?

racer9x · 27 December 2012

Any update?

latzke · 29 December 2012

How does the surface of the impellers get worn?

I ask because they don't touch and upstream is this air filter thing to keep out debris like dust/sand/etc that would span the gap.

Blacknot · 29 December 2012

latzke said:
How does the surface of the impellers get worn?

I ask because they don't touch and upstream is this air filter thing to keep out debris like dust/sand/etc that would span the gap.

Its not the impellers that they say get worn its the gear set that drives them

RYU · 29 December 2012

latzke said:
How does the surface of the impellers get worn?

I ask because they don't touch and upstream is this air filter thing to keep out debris like dust/sand/etc that would span the gap.

Blacknot said:
Its not the impellers that they say get worn its the gear set that drives them

The impellers have a teflon coating of some sort. It aids in creating the best seal. That will wear over time though i'm not sure how much difference a few microns of worn coating will really matter in boost pressure.

If the gear set wears beyond spec then the impellers risk making contact with each other. Then it becomes a bigger issue and replacement impellers may be necessary.

A.S. Motorsport · 2 January 2013

You'd need to look up the companies or guys that usually rebuild the 3.8 Buick superchargers or those in similar '90s Ford Thunderbird's.
They also run a screw set (M90 iirc or M62) not the same as a CTSC but the same principals

PSE Superchargers · 4 December 2013

Blacknot said:
PSE is a nightmare I learned the hard way. When i searched i couldnt find many companies that rebuild them but most were $600-800 so $300 is very inexpensive

Ron, After our phone conversation you agreed to remove any negative threads. Please remove this and any other threads. Thank you. Ed.

Blacknot · 4 December 2013

PSE Superchargers said:
Ron, After our phone conversation you agreed to remove any negative threads. Please remove this and any other threads. Thank you. Ed.

Ed I told you I would remove the thread I started. You have now gone and dug up all of these old threads. I did in fact have a terrible experience. I will also mention you admit wrong doing on the phone yet on the internet you deny it

BATMANs · 4 December 2013

Why not just contact Lysholm directly?

I'm sure they have a list of companies that they can recommend.

Phone: 805-247-0226
Email: [email protected]

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Here is a thread where I basically said that SOS IC wasn’t as good as DA’s and SOS handled themselves professionally.

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/150322-Driving-Ambition-vs-SOS-Laminova-intercooler

ALwAyS4SaLe · 18 December 2013

I'm curious... CT won't rebuild their kits??

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