OK. Shall we try it this coming weekend 10/9/05? Sounds like a nice cool fall day perfect for driving! For those of you unfamilar with our drives we meet at Panera Bread at the N.E. corner of Hwys. 291 and 40 in Independence Mo. at about 9 AM and leaving promptly at 9:30 AM. I would classify our drives as "spirited." The drive usually lasts about 3-4 hrs. and we frequently have lunch afterwards. Sound off guys will this date work for you? Gary