ScienceofSpeed Twin Turbocharger System

[ScienceofSpeed]

ScienceofSpeed Twin Turbocharger System:
http://scienceofspeed.com/products/engine_performance_products/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/twin_turbo_system/

ScienceofSpeed releases the new twin turbo system for the Acura NSX. A culmination of years of experience with the NSX and forced induction tuning has contributed to this clean slate design to build an optimum - no compromise turbocharger system for the NSX. Our system is designed to prove that a reliable, high performance, factory quality turbocharger system can exist for the NSX.

<img border="0" src="http://scienceofspeed.com/products/engine_performance_products/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/twin_turbo_system/rearbank_450.jpg" width="450" height="338" align="left">Based on custom modified Garrett GT28 twin turbochargers that are capable of 400-600 horsepower, the ScienceofSpeed Twin Turbo System provides the widest easily expandable system available. In addition, a unique feature of the ScienceofSpeed Twin Turbo System is that the design allows the use of the factory catalytic converters and an exhaust that mounts to factory locations for emissions compliance. This combination is effective up to 400 hp and is ideal for customers who would like to retain the factory cats for emissions purposes and who already own a good performing aftermarket exhaust. A separate high flow exhaust system is offered by ScienceofSpeed with and without integrated high flow cats for customers who have power goals in excess of 400 up to 600 horsepower depending on engine configuration.

The use of twin turbochargers allows a significantly wide performance envelope. The system is ideal for a customer with a factory engine with goals of 400 horsepower all the way to a customer who is interested in expanding the factory engine with goals in excess of 600 horsepower.

regards,
-- Chris

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wsj-9T8B1I

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[Juice]

Chris, can you please explain how the IC works. I see references to it, but no visuals. (Maybe I'm just missing it). SUPER excited to see this setup and have a ton of (n00b) questions.

Sent from my Droid

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

The charge cooler is located in the rear left quarter panel area. You can see it below. This is a liquid-air bar & plate core that is capable of well over 600 hp. We use a high capacity front-mount heat exchanger. It's the most ideal configuration for a mid-mounted engine. In our testing, even under extended high load conditions, the charge temperature is at maximum 50 deg F over ambient.

take care,
-- Chris

 

[CL65 Captain]

Chris, in this picture it looks like you replace the rear main beam. Does the front motor mount mount to this?

Looks in this pic that it is not mounted via the OEM way but to the outside (drivers) on the engine bracket. ???

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Times (0-60, 60-130, 1/4)?

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

That's correct, the kit includes a new tubular chassis brace which also functions as the engine mount (which is attached to the engine with a supplied bracket).

regards,
-- Chris

 

[roondogg]

This is a polished kit. If I were not doing my own kit, then I would, seriously, look into this. I like the high mount non-oil pump setup. I have no doubt that this kit is designed well. What kind of heat exchanger are you all using? Is it the one that you sell on your site from Driving Ambition?

Cheers

 

[baynsac]

Cant you make the almost exact same Hp/Tq for half price with a single turbo? I understand you might boost little faster with twin setup, but does that really warrant spending twice as much

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

Cant you make the almost exact same Hp/Tq for half price with a single turbo? I understand you might boost little faster with twin setup, but does that really warrant spending twice as much

Sonny, you are not making apples-apples comparisons. There are many advantages to this system compared to other budget kits out there (liquid-air intercooling, improved boost response, ability to use stock cat converters, much greater expandability, etc.) Please do a little research, there is lots of information on our website. Ultimately, if you have a budget in mind, and are only concerned about peak numbers, this system may not be the best choice for you.

regards,
-- Chris

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

This is a polished kit. If I were not doing my own kit, then I would, seriously, look into this. I like the high mount non-oil pump setup. I have no doubt that this kit is designed well. What kind of heat exchanger are you all using? Is it the one that you sell on your site from Driving Ambition?

Cheers

Thank you for the compliments. We use a 24 x 6 x 1" front mounted heat exchanger.

take care,
-- Chris

 

[baynsac]

Sonny, you are not making apples-apples comparisons. There are many advantages to this system compared to other budget kits out there (liquid-air intercooling, improved boost response, ability to use stock cat converters, much greater expandability, etc.) Please do a little research, there is lots of information on our website. Ultimately, if you have a budget in mind, and are only concerned about peak numbers, this system may not be the best choice for you.

regards,
-- Chris

liquid-air intercooling, improved boost response, ability to use stock cat converters, much greater expandability, etc

Most These things you mentioned can also be achieved with a Single turbo kit correct?

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

liquid-air intercooling, improved boost response, ability to use stock cat converters, much greater expandability, etc

Most These things you mentioned can also be achieved with a Single turbo kit correct?

- liquid-air intercooling - the prices you are mentioning do not include this, of course they can be added
- the twin configuration has performance advantages as mentioned
- the twin configuration allows a wide expandability option from stock to built engine
- no single system available works with factory cats

Simply put, this system was developed and designed with specific goals in mind. That required more parts and more work than a single system would require. For many customers, the single system will be fine, for others with the same goals as we had in development, this system will be for them.

-- Chris

 

[hardcore-nsx]

Hey Chris, Im still interested in this kit. How is every day drivability? If my wife decides to drive it. It has to be drivable for her. Also, I have pics of my Silver NSX with the Advan RS-D's installed. Do you want pics for the site.
Ryan

 

[omega2]

Added to my wish list.

 

[HIJACKER]

By chance, is there any possibility for a better price if we arrange a groupbuy and have several people place deposits? If so, how steep can we discount and how many committed buyers would it take to make that happen?

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

Hey Chris, Im still interested in this kit. How is every day drivability? If my wife decides to drive it. It has to be drivable for her. Also, I have pics of my Silver NSX with the Advan RS-D's installed. Do you want pics for the site.
Ryan

The car is very drivable because the power delivery is very smooth. There's no drama with boost lag resulting in a dramatic torque spike. The video posted has some "normal driving" to give an example of this.

Yes, we'd love to add some photos of your car with the RS-D wheels to our website. They look great on your silver NSX. Please e-mail [email protected]. Thank you much for your contribution.

-- Chris

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

By chance, is there any possibility for a better price if we arrange a groupbuy and have several people place deposits? If so, how steep can we discount and how many committed buyers would it take to make that happen?

Thank you for your interest. We priced this as low as possible to be competitive with other systems. We're honestly not in a position to offer a group buy as we are completing in-house jobs first. Once production kits are shipping with proper packaging and installation guides, we'll poll interest at that time.

thank you,
-- Chris

 

[baynsac]

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- liquid-air intercooling - the prices you are mentioning do not include this, of course they can be added
- the twin configuration has performance advantages as mentioned
- the twin configuration allows a wide expandability option from stock to built engine
- no single system available works with factory cats

simply put, this system was developed and designed with specific goals in mind. That required more parts and more work than a single system would require. For many customers, the single system will be fine, for others with the same goals as we had in development, this system will be for them.

-- chris

 

[ScienceofSpeed]

Sonny, I'm sure you will be very happy with Wil's DIY kit. He has many satisfied owners on NSXPrime.

regards,
-- Chris

 

[OddJob]

Bringing a product of this complexity to market has to be an enormous undertaking.

Congratulations to everyone at ScienceofSpeed for a job well done.

 

[FogCityNSX]

Is there an advantage to runnning stock cats or cats at all in a boosted application?

 

[v5e_nsx]

Chris,

SOS sells this as a complete kit or will member be able to purchase specific parts?

I'm really interest in just the turbo manifold.

Thanks

 

[ChopsJazz]

Chris, you mention the use of stock cats and emissions compatibility. Does this system meet California CARB standards?

 

[omega2]

Chris, you mention the use of stock cats and emissions compatibility. Does this system meet California CARB standards?

Probably not. The CARB rating applies to the entire kit, not whether it is compatible with the stock cats. That being said, most techs may not recognize the aftermarket setup or even bother to look.

I am not sure if this has been asked, but will this kit be replacing the SOS supercharger kit? They are both priced about the same, but the twin turbo kit has gobs more potential.