Ok I read through the entire FAQ on brakes. I am now more confused than I was before. The one post that grabbed me was BDV's setup of the Hawk Blue pads, Motul 600 fluid and stock rotors. However, he did not mention anything about shudder, which is what I am trying to eliminate. I normally drive my car for street use, on back roads that I know well through the mountains. (Ones without cops, and lots of turns) There is several long stretches of the road where you can see a great distance and I usually take the car up to around 145 - 150 MPH. What I am looking to eliminate is the shudder that I get from about 85-55 mph every time I press the brake pedal. After owning several porsches and never having a shudder problem before, I am not sure how to eliminate this problem. It annoys the hell out of me. I am looking for feedback on how to completely eliminate this problem and if BDV could get back to me on his set up and if there was any shudder problems for him. Or if anyone else has a setup that has eliminated shudder. Also, if you could include where to buy the products.