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Valet parkers: straight from the horses mouth

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A friend came by the house the other day to pick something up. I had the garage door halfway open and he asked if he can check out my NSX. I said of course.

After ogling at it for a while, and a few compliments, he casually mentioned that he used to valet park and he would randomly see NSXs and other expensive cars pull up.

So I probed about it a little and he gave me a few pointers I'd like to share:

1. Don't leave money in the car. Even if it is just change, it will be taken.

2. Expensive sportscars will be taken for a ride. Maybe not to the extent of abuse, but almost expect to have the car take an extra block or so around the corner before it gets parked.

3. Keep house keys with you at all times. Take them off the same key ring. If you hand them your car key along with your house key, they maybe so inclined to take a trip to the local locksmith to have a duplicate made. When they find your address, they will have full access to your home.

4. Do a quick walk-around inspection prior to giving him his tip. Inspect your car for scratches, damages, dents, etc. that may have been caused while you were dining. In most cases, when you do find damage, you only have a 24-hour window to report it to the valet company (not the restaurant manager). Their insurance company will refuse to fix anything thereafter. It's a safeguard for both parties. That way customers won't be able to claim any damages that occured days after and were not caused by the valets. Read the fine print in the back of your ticket!

5. Make note of the odometer reading. Keep a post-it handy and write the mileage of your car. Stick it on the steering wheel or anywhere in full view. Also, reset your trip odometer to read "zero." Keep a copy on you if you wish just to make sure that there is no misunderstanding of the exact mileage reading at the time the car was left.

6. Make note of where they park your car.Watch where they take it before you enter the restaurant. With an NSX, it will most likely be parked front and center. But if not, question the valet if they pull the car from a different parking spot from where it was in the beginning. It will most likely have been taken for a joyride.

7. If street parking is available, take it. Of course, make sure it's a relatively safe neighborhood.

Of course, many folks in here will advocate that the best way to go is to ask if you can park the car yourself with the promise of compensation for the valet afterwards. But in those instances where you do have the let the car go--or don't mind valet parking too much--these tips can help ease your mind a little.
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[This message has been edited by Joel (edited 20 February 2003).]
 
This varies a lot by area I think. I use valet parking all the time and I never have any trouble at all. I always check my odo and I ALWAYS have money in the car (at least change and singles). In literally 18 years of using valet parking in Manhattan I have had ONE incident of my bumper being nicked (on my BMW).

Conversly, parking on the street, I have had my mirror torn off by a hit and run truck (my old Audi), my bumpers scratched to hell by SUV drivers who can't park (my old Benz) and my window smashed by radio thieves (again, the poor old Audi).

Your mileage may vary, but in NY I'd suggest thinking twice about street parking. Of course you could also just never drive anywhere; but then why have the car?
 
Last summer, we stayed at the "Ritz Carlton" (Halfmoon Bay) and I asked the valet Parkers not to move my car and should be left where It was parked.

At 4am, I went out for a run and I went berzerk to not see my car.

According to "Ritz" they had to move it due to a "Golf Tournament", yeah right!!! I would never,ever leave my car keys to anyone specially if Im staying for the night..

ok, Im done venting....
 
I like SilverOne's answer, Rule #1 and Rule #2. Joel makes some good points thuogh, to help protect yourself and your NSX. Not that I have a lot of experience with this, but when I tell the valet I want to keep my key's they look at me like I am crazy. Then I tell them I will make it worth their while, and they usually let me park it up front and keep my keys. It's amazing what a little extra money will get you sometimes.
 
I used to be a valet when I was in high school and college. I can say first hand that a nice tip when you pull up to the valet stand will gaurantee your car safety. On the otherhand, if you pull up and act like a d*ckhead, your carr will be driven by every valet person there, and some may even decide to learn how to drive shift on your car.

I have too many bad and good stories when I used to valet. The worst is two valets taking a Ferrari 328GTS out and one of them didn't return alive. The other person is paralyzed.

So, be nice to these hard working people, treat them with some respect, and be generous with youyr tipping. Things to keep in consideration when it's 10 degrees outside.
 
Originally posted by Dr.Lane:
I used to be a valet when I was in high school and college. I can say first hand that a nice tip when you pull up to the valet stand will gaurantee your car safety. On the otherhand, if you pull up and act like a d*ckhead, your carr will be driven by every valet person there, and some may even decide to learn how to drive shift on your car.

I have too many bad and good stories when I used to valet. The worst is two valets taking a Ferrari 328GTS out and one of them didn't return alive. The other person is paralyzed.

So, be nice to these hard working people, treat them with some respect, and be generous with youyr tipping. Things to keep in consideration when it's 10 degrees outside.

What amount would be considered a good tip?
 
A Fin ($5) when you pull up, and another $5 when you leave. Ten bucks is cheap insurance and when you go back the next time you will most likely be recognized. Also, your car be up-front all night and protected from the other valets wanting to take a cruise.

[This message has been edited by Dr.Lane (edited 20 February 2003).]
 
About 2 years ago a friend of mine parked valet at the Ritz Carlton. After being there 30 minutes he was told that the valet took his Ferrari 355 spyder out for a litte joy ride and they totaled it.

Not all valets will take your car for a joy ride, but it does happen. Many years ago I worked at a valet, and there were a couple of guys that worked there that would take "the fun cars" out for a ride. Of course I never did.

I for one avoid valets at all costs. Only under rare circumstances will I valet. It's a gamble I do not wish to take.
 
When I go out to eat at a nice restaurant or go to a club, I always valet. I have had no problems so far. I usually tip $10. Most of the time I get a spot up in the front. I am more concerned about my NSX being parked away from sight or where some jerk might park too close and ding my door.

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I guess I don't get the whole valet thing anyway.
You want to give the keys to someone you don't know? I don't even give the keys to most people I do know!

And the reason (many times at least) is to save walking outside a little bit?

Got to agree with SilverOne & VampNSX on this. But thanks for the tip that the valet guy's will let you park your car yourself if you tip them, I may do that in the future.

I don't mind paying for parking and security.
And sometimes finding secure parking is pretty much impossible.

I've heard plenty of stories from talking to ex valets. Seems that most think it's a perk of the job the test drive and rate the cars, and I don't need my NSX rated by them. In retrospect almost ALL of my limited experiences with valet parking has been
negative.

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I would suggest the following (taking parts of a few of the previous posts):

1. Drive Up
2. Tip The Valet
3. Park it yourself
4. Keep the Keys
5. Enjoy yourself
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6. Return to the Parking Lot
7. See step #2
8. Retrieve your car and drive home

Seems like the best of both worlds to me!

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All good points, but I disagree with one

"5. ... Also, reset your trip odometer to read "zero.""

You should not do this. This is because if you leave it at zero, they just reset it once they get back. But if you leave it at whatever it is '0143', they could not duplicate that number unless they drive 143 miles!
 
Originally posted by NSX-00054:
Why not avoid all this stress and use your daily driver when going out to dinner and/or clubs?

Good advice.....but ya know what? My NSX *is* my daily driver. I take it everywhere and valet whenever possible, which includes letting them park my NSX.

And today it is raining but I still enjoy driving my car, rather than letting it sit in the garage because I'm not afraid that it will melt in the rain.

Don't give anyone the keys.......jeez you guys are piece of work.
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The NSX is not a museum piece. It is a car. So what if something happens to your precious NSX? Life goes on, so get over it.
 
Originally posted by AndyVecsey:
Don't give anyone the keys.......jeez you guys are piece of work.
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The NSX is not a museum piece. It is a car. So what if something happens to your precious NSX? Life goes on, so get over it.

Damn Andy, I agree life does go one...it is only a car...but do you have to come off like a mean guy everytime you post a grievance with anyone's comments or opinions? I don't think you mean it that way, or maybe you do...but I think it comes off as quite out of place to the rest of us here.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off-topic guys.

I personally would avoid all valet personell if possibles and just park in the north 40 as I usually do. Someitmes nothing helps and you're just destined to get a ding though. It sucks, but as Andy put it, life does go on.
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Besides, for some of you it might be slightly worth them doing it if you can catch them.


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[This message has been edited by scottjua (edited 21 February 2003).]
 
I don't think you mean it that way, or maybe you do...

Indeed I do......that is why we have insurance, to repair whatever damage is done to the car
 
Andy, you must be one rich dude. Most ppl when they get an NSX treat it like a museum piece, because it literally is, to them at least.

Why the hell do you vent about other ppl wanting to take care of their car??? Yea things are replaceable and repairable by insurance, but why the hell WOULD YOU WANT TO??

Obviously you don't mind all the little scratches and dings on your car, but other ppl do. So what? Don't frickin' vent about it, sheez!!! I don't have an NSX but I still would be shocked if ppl drove them and took care of them like a Ford Escort!

OK I'm done venting about your vent.

On the valet parking front, I only valet park rental cars, only when there's nothing vaulable in there! Laziness does not pay...


Originally posted by AndyVecsey:
Good advice.....but ya know what? My NSX *is* my daily driver. I take it everywhere and valet whenever possible, which includes letting them park my NSX.

And today it is raining but I still enjoy driving my car, rather than letting it sit in the garage because I'm not afraid that it will melt in the rain.

Don't give anyone the keys.......jeez you guys are piece of work.
rolleyes.gif
The NSX is not a museum piece. It is a car. So what if something happens to your precious NSX? Life goes on, so get over it.

 
Originally posted by AndyVecsey:

Don't give anyone the keys.......jeez you guys are piece of work.
rolleyes.gif
The NSX is not a museum piece. It is a car. So what if something happens to your precious NSX? Life goes on, so get over it.


Eventhough folks do have insurance, it still takes effort to claim the insurance, pay the deductible, and get the damage fixed. It is for these reasons that many people are careful with their cars. In addition to the potential collateral damage that may occur, there is also the lost time, energy, and yes, money. I think the consequences of collateral damage far outweigh the fact it got damaged to begin with.
 
Much like Dr.Lane, I was a valet in college as well. His experience is similar to mine. There were good valets and there were bad ones. There was a guy that did get fired for jacking peoples change so always be mindful of what you leave out in your car.

When I worked, the doorman(head/ uber valet) never let the valets drive exotics/sports cars. Ferraris, Vipers, Vettes, Porsches, NSXs, etc....
Folks driving these cars usually gave the valet a 5 up front and on the back end...or just gave a ten on the back end.

Anyway, I would not valet unless I was forced either way. That is just who I am though. I will just walk it if I have to.

I see this thread is going in another direction since Andy posted. While his comments were abrasive, he does have a good point. I think his comments beg the question...Do you own your NSX, or does your NSX own you? I don't mean this in a financial sense obviously.

I will provide a hypothetical example to illustrate my point.

Say there is a restaurant you love to go to. You can only valet your car. If you do not valet you have to park a mile away at a meter. Thus you have to drop your wife off at the restaurant, park the car, pay the meter, run a mile to get back to the restaurant, go to the bathroom to take a sink bath, tip the bathroom guy for the deoderant, and then you get to eat. However you would have to do that again in between the appetizer and the main course( to pay the meter and make sure your car was ok). You would then have to run back to the car and go pick your wife up. You just ran four miles during dinner.

I would say your chances of a valet damaging your car is about one in a thousand. We all probably pay over one hundred dollars a month to cover us in the event something like that happens. What is a bigger hassle, valeting the car and using your insurance in the unlikely event your car is damaged? Or...running four miles every time you don't want to valet your car?

Do you own your NSX, or does your NSX own you?

Let me clarify my position a bit further though. There are some guys who only want to take their NSX out on Sunday morning, drive it for thiry minutes down a sparsely travelled highway and go home. That is how they consume the product they purchased. Then there is the guy who cannot stop driving the NSX. He takes it everywhere he goes and leaves his other car in the garage all the time. He may even have to valet the car. I have no problem with anyone using their NSX in these two different ways. I do feel sorry for the guy who only takes it out on Sundays who would rather be like the second guy who takes it everywhere.

I think Andy may be calling out the guys in the last group. I could be wrong.

I love my NSX so much guys. I love to look at it, drive it, polish it. I know there will be times I will have to valet it. Hopefully there will be a day when I don't cringe/worry about valeting my car.
 
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