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Re: Regarding Nick Sitko

Michael Storac said:
Let me identify myself. My name is Michael Storac. I am the webmaster and one of the managing directors of SO Clear Media Productions, Inc., a non-profit organization located in Clackamas, Oregon. It is a site that advocates the rationalization of laws with regard to registered sex offenders. While many people would call such an organization such as ourselves as a "sex offenders' rights" organization, in reality we call to task many of unintended consequences of such laws. The example that has perpetuated itself through this forum is EXACTLY the unintended consequences that have resulted in 4 people being terrorized-not an exaggeration-in their home and neighborhood due to the zeal of several people. Let that sink in for a few moments.

Of course, I'm talking about Nick Sitko.

First, let me address his actions. They were WRONG. Period. He should have been banned immediately. In fact, if he had done the same in any of my 63 forums that I host (unrelated to SO CLEAR), he not only would have been banned, his ISP would have been notified. But that is my policy, and written in no uncertain terms in my TOS agreement.

But I'm not excusing his behavior, nor the lack of the administrators for not banning him because of said behavior. In fact, I agree to a certain amount of "forum justice" myself, including identification of his name and even of his criminal past.

Nick did make several mistakes in trying to "justify" his actions. I don't without a doubt suspect that escalation in part because he was trying to make light of his exposure. But this is where the actions and statements of some of the forum members began to diverge from the righteous, to the abusive, to the criminal. Yes, criminal.

Once Nick was outed, that should have been it. Frankly, the board should have instantly nipped the thread in the bud and permanently banned Sitko, according to TOS of your site. But they didn't.

What happened, is an escalation of exposing Sitko's past. Someone posted information from the South Carolina Megan's Law website, either here in this thread or in other similar threads, which can be prosecuted as a misdemeanor, according to the South Carolina website. Others took to creating Wikipedia pages. Still others created a fake BBC documentary. There was bragging...BRAGGING!...that over 60 other threads were celebrating the "outing" of a sex offender because he broke forum rules.

And as such is to happen, there were real world consequences.

You see, Nick Sitko has a family. He has a fiancee and two children. And the harassment was limited NOT JUST to Nick Sitko, but to the rest of his family as well. Including a 6 month baby.

I talked to his fiancee. Indeed, her name is Kim Williford. You, along with billions of other people around the world, know her address. She is fighting mad, as she should be. But it is not her I speak of now...it is her older child.

Nursing a 6 month old baby is hard enough, but trying to explain to a toddler why a bunch of people are driving by the house, yelling bad things, is a terrible burden to deal with. Having to deal with a father who is suddenly scared and sullen. Having to deal with the phone ringing with people hanging up all the time. Have any of YOU ever dealt with this type of terror? Have you?

"But he's a sex offender...he DESERVES every bit of agony, of terror that he has given his victim!"

Really. Tell that to his toddler, happy as a lark around Christmas, who is suddenly afraid and anxious, cries at all hours, and is scared. Not just scared...scared out of his WITS.

Would ANY of you want that for any of YOUR children?

Would any of you want that for ANY child, no matter who they belong to?

Big men. Drive expensive cars and are responsible for the terror of a five year old child. Hmmph.

Frankly, I don't know what Nick and Kim have in mind from a legal standpoint. They have the IMMEDIATE concern of dealing with their children, and in fact their immediate circumstances from an employment standpoint.

I will be very clear: What Nick did when this thread started was inexcusable. But NOT criminal. I want to emphasize that point.

The escalation has resulted in many crimes being committed, however. Yes, crimes. I have had a bit of experience in law myself, and several people have opined that just because they pulled the public court record from the court, not from the registry, they are well within their rights to post it on a forum. However, they fail to realize that it was the REGISTRY that triggered the action to obtain the records, and the MANNER in which the court record were disseminated was the result of an illegal posting of the registry information in the first place. Tread lightly with that argument; it's been successfully prosecuted in similar circumstances.

As I said before the sheer volume and intensity of interest has predictably triggered the harassment of Nick and Kim. The fact that people here are celebrating the fact that someone's been outed, that it has made this forum the most popular car forum in history, is frankly beyond the pale in my book. Yes, deal harshly with someone who spams you. But don't use the excuse that "Nick kept showing up and lying, again and again, so we are justified in doing what we did." Fine.

I will state this: Nick will never show his face around this forum again. I have talked to his fiancee about the inadvisability of using forum signatures for affiliate marketing; I'm sure their lawyer will advise him more succinctly. The fact that he did what he did is, again, inexcusable, but not criminally illegal. The threats his family have received IS criminally illegal. And the threats would not have occurred without the escalation that was, in fact, encouraged.

But keep in mind, the real victim of Nick's stupidity, and many members depravity: his child. For God's sake, let's cut the cord NOW, and go back to talking about cars. Leave his family alone by stopping the perpetuation of this terroristic nonsense.

I do not plan on replying within this thread, as I believe in more transparent communication. I can be reached at [email protected], and the organization is on the web at http://www.soclear.org. NOTE: This is not a promotion, but an identification of who I am, including our business address and phone number, for the purpose of transparency. I will respond to any reasonable email, no matter your position on sex offender issues and Internet law.
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Point taken, although I think you'll be hard pressed to find any "friends" on this site or any others for that matter.

For everyone else -- lets just read this as "uh oh...the special interest groups are getting involved. Time to lock it down." :cool:
 
Oh...I just read Micheal Storac's post....

....harrasing the guy at his house is pretty fucked up and immature. I certainly would never do that, even if I lived nextdoor and feel the way I do about the tool.

But everyone always wants to point a finger at the nearest target.....in Mr. Storac's post, that's us...the readers and posters in this thread. While this thread may have sparked some unwarrented retaliation, let not forget where it starts.....HE'S CONVICTED OF A SEX CRIME!!!!. In today's free-info trade world, there's gonna be some hurdles you may have to overcome when you're a CONVICTED SEX CRIMINAL. One of those hurdles could be having your ass handed to you publically...online...brutally.

As far as criminal activity by publically post ALREADY PUBLICALLY PUBLISHED PUBLIC RECORDS.....yeah, good luck with that one. I'd tell that attorney not to eyeball that new sailboat too hard because letdowns are a BITCH!

I have no tolerance for sex offenders of juveniles. Lowest of the low....dirtbags. Someone should round them all up and put them on an island called "FUCK YOU".

***DISCLAIMER*** DJ eBAM in NO WAY condones the actions of those who have commited acts of physical terrorism against the Sitko family. As a matter of fact, I condem them. Those people need to grow up. However, DJ eBAM does condone this thread, the spirit of discussion, and the admin/ops/moderators desicion to keep it unlocked.

Thank you for playing, and good night.
 
Now that is some serious ownage! I heard it first while on another forum, didn't bother following it up though :eek: , I then saw it posted again in another section! Thought, this must be special,seems like i should have looked earlier! That is one quick moving thread! Whatever the outcome, Props to u guys, from http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/index.php .

Yes it's still travelling the UK! :biggrin:
Some nice NSXs here
 
Where is Lud when you need him? :confused:
 
I'm not even a regular here, and I think you should close it. Nick isn't going to man up anytime soon, and it's hard to imagine how he can possibly be any more PWNED than he already is. The ownage isn't going to go away just because the thread is locked. It's way beyond critical mass now. People will be hearing about and reading this epic thread for a long time to come.

Thanks, NSX Prime, for the hospitality and lulz!!! :D
 
This will be my last post here but here's my .02.

He knew better than to do what he did. While if he really did plead guilty, I'll at least give him that. That still doesn't excuse him. If his said wife and kids are harassed or "terrorized", then action should be taken. For the children's sake (if they do in fact exist), they should be separated from him at least until this dies down and let him take whatever happens to him like a man. I recommend to him to watch his back where ever he goes since this is public now and you can't undo what has been done and hopefully he has had a change in heart and character. In the end, Karma is still a bitch.
In the mean time, if people want to flame, go back to flaming the idiot who wanted to bypass the turbo on his corvette and run his headers directly to his intake, AKA: Direct Exhaust Injection (DEI) :D
 
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this all would have been avoided if nick put a disclaimer in his sig that his posts are for entertainment pursposes only
 
jerknuts was told from the early pages to shut his mouth and take his ownage like a man. and because he hasn't done so he only made things worse for himself by throwing more fuel to the fire.

funny how nick is the victim and the forum is the offender.....not!
dude came here to spam his illegal gaming sites, he got busted. this is nothing compared to standing before a judge, especially with his record. the more he keeps it up the better the chances he'll go down that road.
 
I'm not entirely sure that what Nick did in this thread is NOT illegal. It could be argued that he was attempting to execute a confidence trick (a con) on the members of this forum. He was fraudulently presenting himself as another individual (and appears to do this often not only on this site but others) who won money on a site and paid in full for an NSX - fully lying about it - while being the owner of the site in question (granted the site is an affiliate link). That is the definition of a con.

He appears to still have that 9 year suspended sentence hanging over his head...anyone know if he is under probation? If so, maybe an attempt should be made to alert his PO.

If he does sue the site, then his shenanigans will come to light in a court of law and a judge may decide he has not been on "good behavior" and send his ass back to prison.
 
Save_Nick! said:
Break out your tissues, this thread has officially turned into the Dr. Phill Show.


Please tell me that's bad humor. If you think the type of car you drive has any bearing on the type of Christian you are, you just flunked Christianity-101.

Signed,
A Catholic
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+1 , signed a non Catholic Christian!!

To non-Christians, do not slam Christianity because some lone whacko preaching false views. I'm far from a Bible thumper but know enough that there's nothing in the Book even remotely close to this quacks drivel.
 
R.I.P. NICK said:
jerknuts was told from the early pages to shut his mouth and take his ownage like a man. and because he hasn't done so he only made things worse for himself by throwing more fuel to the fire.

funny how nick is the victim and the forum is the offender.....not!
dude came here to spam his illegal gaming sites, he got busted. this is nothing compared to standing before a judge, especially with his record. the more he keeps it up the better the chances he'll go down that road.
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Lud...seriously...even the former Viper drivers are saying its time to shut this down. And we all know how hardcore those blokes are.

R.I.P. Nick -- close your eyes. imagine a life outside of owning a stanger in S.C. Your anger is welcome later, once you have an NSX and have been *smoked* by a Z06. We're all used to it. :smile:
 
pontiphex said:
I'm not entirely sure that what Nick did in this thread is NOT illegal. It could be argued that he was attempting to execute a confidence trick (a con) on the members of this forum. He was fraudulently presenting himself as another individual (and appears to do this often not only on this site but others) who won money on a site and paid in full for an NSX - fully lying about it - while being the owner of the site in question (granted the site is an affiliate link). That is the definition of a con.

He appears to still have that 9 year suspended sentence hanging over his head...anyone know if he is under probation? If so, maybe an attempt should be made to alert his PO.

If he does sue the site, then his shenanigans will come to light in a court of law and a judge may decide he has not been on "good behavior" and send his ass back to prison.
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Yes, he is still on probation until 2011. Running an illegal gaming site is considered a violation of court probation. The proper authorities have been notified.
 
pontiphex said:
He appears to still have that 9 year suspended sentence hanging over his head...anyone know if he is under probation? If so, maybe an attempt should be made to alert his PO.

If he does sue the site, then his shenanigans will come to light in a court of law and a judge may decide he has not been on "good behavior" and send his ass back to prison.
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Not sure how long his supervised probation is?

However, during that time he needs to keep his nose clean or face the 9 1/2 years of his suspended sentence.

I think he just needs to get his act together, and become a responsible member of society.
 
It feels good to be on the right side of this whole thing... I feel really bad for Nick, and his family. He could have ended up everything on the 3rd post. Instead he kept lying, and made us discover things about him... It for sure won't be easy for him to rise again after this. But he kinda looked for that.
The good part of me think that we all should forget about him and everything he did. The mad part of me hopes that he will get more jail time for illegal activities, and that this whole sitckowned thing is going to continue for some time. Because, we all agree on that, put aside the fact that this is really nasty, we laughed our ass off on this forum.

Btw, All your NSX looks great, seems like a fantastic car, and quite affordable. Keep rockin this forum guys.

PS: Seems like sf is following this too: http://supertalk.superfuture.com/showthread.php?p=857672
Must be like the 300th forum or even more having a thread about it, plus those we didn't hear of.
 
NSX_KIM said:
We have 2 kids one is 3 and the other is 6 months.
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Michael Storac said:
Big men. Drive expensive cars and are responsible for the terror of a five year old child. Hmmph.
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God knows I want Prime back to normal, and I hate to split hairs, but how did the kid age 2 years in a couple of days?

You know what would immediately end this? It's so elementary and basic. Put the fire out by with an APOLOGY, you idiot. No one else can do it for you, Nick. No one else can vouch for you or apologize for your mistakes. You've already burned that bridge by posting under a false identity. Issue a public apology, and I'll bet the thread will end.

And then get the hell out of here.

pontiphex said:
I'm not entirely sure that what Nick did in this thread is NOT illegal. It could be argued that he was attempting to execute a confidence trick (a con) on the members of this forum. He was fraudulently presenting himself as another individual (and appears to do this often not only on this site but others) who won money on a site and paid in full for an NSX - fully lying about it - while being the owner of the site in question (granted the site is an affiliate link). That is the definition of a con.
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Correct.
 
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