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Easiest way to own a NSX

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PLEASE READ THIS POST!!!!

Everyone, Guests, Primers, Lurkers,

Please do two things:
1) Donate to Prime - the bill for internet bandwidth is gonna kill poor Lud (the site owner) for the next few months.

2) DO NOT APPROACH, ENGAGE, HARASS, ETC Nick in the real world!!!!
three good reasons:
1) this is an online indiscretion, fairly handled in the forum that it started in, not fair to involve people who are around him, family, neighbors, etc.
2) Assuming Nick has a fiance and kids (which fairness indicates we should assume) they are really not part of this and deserve to be kept innocent
3) There is a big difference between ragging on a guy and assaulting him - but when you make it a "person to person" thing it turns into assault very quickly (for all you non-lawyers, assault is the perceived threat of violence, assault and battery (aka assault causing bodily hard) is when you actually touch the person)

Please, most of you are guests in "our" online space - if anything happens "we" will end up holding the responsibility bag and you will be off living in your foreign country obliviously. Party here if you like, but don't make it unlivable for us.

Also, Nick's kids couldn't choose their father, and it will be their burden for their whole lives, as someone who has kids I beg all of you to accept my point of view even if you disagree with it - Nick should not be addressed, approached, phoned, stalked, etc. offline PERIOD!


Obviously, based on the tenure of my involvement in the community as well as the number of posts I've made - I'm not Nick, I'm not even a sympathizer of his - but I do respect his family - and so should you.
 
And who is to blame? Those who have exposed this guy, or the guy himself for having sex with an underage girl?

In a previous post, you indicated that there was more to this than a 15-year-old lying about her age. Could you elaborate?

Thanks.


ATTN: K6AZ
 
I think its time to lock this thread its gone on to long now. I feel sorry for nick i know loads of people in their twenties going out with teens it is common leave him alone.:frown:

Really! Better tell all these people to lawyer up because unless the teens you're talking about 18 or 19 year olds its jailbait.
As for feeling sorry for Nick get real he brought this all on himself. Nick has had numerous oppertunities to end this,
he just needed to man up and come clean.
 
Re: Regarding Nick Sitko

Let me identify myself. My name is Michael Storac. I am the webmaster and one of the managing directors of SO Clear Media Productions, Inc., a non-profit organization located in Clackamas, Oregon. It is a site that advocates the rationalization of laws with regard to registered sex offenders. While many people would call such an organization such as ourselves as a "sex offenders' rights" organization, in reality we call to task many of unintended consequences of such laws. ................................................................................................. ...........................I do not plan on replying within this thread, as I believe in more transparent communication. I can be reached at [email protected], and the organization is on the web at http://www.soclear.org. NOTE: This is not a promotion, but an identification of who I am, including our business address and phone number, for the purpose of transparency. I will respond to any reasonable email, no matter your position on sex offender issues and Internet law.
Uh oh, the self rightous have spoken.
For myself I say, 'Mikey,... SHOVE IT!'
Your so full of it I can smell it clear in my state.
Tell you what, buy an island some where, or large farm, build a huge electrified fence around it and live inside it (bring your family too) with all these wonderful people, who "boo hoo" are really just victims of actions outside there control!
While many people would call such an organization such as ourselves as a "sex offenders' rights" organization
Sounds like it to me, if it sounds like shit, looks like shit and smells like shit.....guess what!
 
In a previous post, you indicated that there was more to this than a 15-year-old lying about her age. Could you elaborate?

Thanks.


ATTN: K6AZ

At this point with several legal threats, no. I've been there before and have actually been involved in several cases where I was sued for content on my site. The sentencing document tells us all we need to know and I'm going to leave it at that. And I invite anyone to try to sue me for that.

By the way, attorneys do not take online defamation cases on contingency. Nick and/or Kim will need to pay up front. The last time I fought one of these cases three years ago my law firm charged $275 an hour.
 
Have not been on here for a while. I still have and drive my 1992 NSX now at 162,000 basically trouble free miles. I found the link to this thread on www.apriliaforum.com , a forum that I administer...too funny!

You guys hit the big time! We recently had a similar bandwidth issue, when one of our members publicly unveiled a new motorcycle design and we got slammed with hits from all over the globe for a couple of weeks. The internet is a strange and wonderfully funny place. Karma is a bi-atch!

Thanks for continuing to host it, much comedy has been shared at our shop from this thread!
 
I've been here since page 1.

I've never said you have done anything but.

Man people need to learn to read or fully comprehend messages before they start pounding on the keys in rages of indignation that perhaps they were a part of something that was.. gaaaaasp wrong.

Lets try again mmmkay.

Funny Thread.. you guys owned him all but good. One of the better exposed threads on the internet and not to be forgotten for a long time. Great job!

However.. some people dont seem to understand the line between humor and harassment. This doesn't mean that YOU don't (he who I quoted) but random members in the thread who have done stupid shit just for interweb back pats and 3 cheers.. But there is a line... be mindful of it.

Its ok if you don't know what the line is I guess, because you are not the one who's got to answer for it, the guy who owns NSXPrime does.
"People picket infront of the houses of sex offenders until they move. That is how they protect their community. "

I can't really fault people for this, however it is.... Illegal. Just cause I don't like a law doesn't make it less of a law or the punishments for it. If this dude wanted to go there, he could make shit real rough for the admins of this website.

And thats ALL I am saying.

The comment I made above was in reference to a comment made in a post that had little to do with the legality of shit. I was simply stating that anything I may have dealt with in regards to internet lynch mobs was not even remotely close to this scale.

But hey, thanks for playing.


You're not Nick as well, are you?
 
I'm not entirely sure that what Nick did in this thread is NOT illegal. It could be argued that he was attempting to execute a confidence trick (a con) on the members of this forum. He was fraudulently presenting himself as another individual (and appears to do this often not only on this site but others) who won money on a site and paid in full for an NSX - fully lying about it - while being the owner of the site in question (granted the site is an affiliate link). That is the definition of a con.

You can't be serious? He faked his identidy on an anonymous forum? isn't that what we all do? how the hell does he and his family deserve this? he was trying to promote his own gambling site under false pretense, the horror! con man! why don't we just destoy his life? oh yeah you've did that already. enjoy your money nsxprime.com, scumbags.
 
it is rather sad that (if he even has them) his kids were pulled into this but with that said he knew going into this what his past was and he knew going into this that his info could be seen by anyone the only guy I know on here that drove by just did so while he was going to see a friend he didnt stop to harass the guy his kids (again if they exist) are not even old enough to know what the internet is unless mommy and daddy are talking about it with that said i think this thread should be closed cause i doubt lud and prime want to be known for this and this alone :redface:
 
You can't be serious? He faked his identidy on an anonymous forum? isn't that what we all do? how the hell does he and his family deserve this? he was trying to promote his own gambling site under false pretense, the horror! con man! why don't we just destoy his life? oh yeah you've did that already. enjoy your money nsxprime.com, scumbags.

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wowo! i wish i knew about this thread earlier,

nsx nick~ i had a TON of fun clowning on you on your honda-tech pages, i think i tried hard not to do it on this site becaus i havent been a member for that long but your retarded questions and excessive posting of your gay nsx was too much eventualy, i never thought you would be famous!!!



im gonna spend a couple minutes on google shwoing all the internet pages this has made it too:

shoutwire.com
legacygt.com
imvu.com
dvdtalk.com
footballguys.com
intermode.on.net
fast-autos.net
autopia.org
socaleuro.com
fourtitude.com
finalgear.com
derryforums.com
neogaf.com
celicasupra.com
diff.com
gametrailers.com
tmcowners.com
mnsubaru.com
honda-tech.com (obviousley becaus i think you started on h-t i remember bagging on you hard, i dunno if you regersterd on here or there first but thats where the initial flaming started)
cornershoptk.com
miata.net
fullsizebronco.com
vietson.com
twowheelforum.com
fordtruckworld.com
netweather.tv(LOL)
boards.ie
vtec.net
fjforum.com
cherokeesrt8.com
bimmerfest.com
pulsar.org.au
cbrextreme.com
prime.com
gatewayredbirds.com
3.8mustang.com
motoraddicts.com
twoplustwo.com
subaruwiki.com
carforums.net
canibus-central.com
ls1lt1.com
muse.mu
g4tv.com
feoa.net
strangefamousrecords.com
teamliquid.com
sportbikes.net
rapgodfathers.com
boardreader.com
12ozprophet.com
nettby.no
elantraxd.com
aaotracker.com
boardreader.com
caraudio.com
vwvortex.com
wikipedia.com(hahahaha)
superfuture.com
sportsinferno.com
whistlestopper.com
tylerdukes.com
chargerforums.com
arstechnica.com
digg.com
s2kca.com
uutah.com
ecotechforum.com
ogn.com.au
m2forum.net
warishellgaming.com
head-fi.org
clubxb.com
volksforum.com
viperclub.com
arstechnica.com
sherdog.net
e46fanatics.com
myg37.com
newtiburon.com
importjunkiez.com
wiredonhonda.com
fitfreak.com
nissansilvia.com
corvetteforum.com
museumofhoaxes.com
speedguide.net
feoa.net
forzacentral.com
chitownrc.com
ebaumsworld.com
audizine.com
corral.net
worldofwarcraft.com
myxbox.co.uk
shotsweb.co.uk
militaryphotos.net
209.200.225.217........???
chiefsplanet.com
dogsonacid.com
wii60.com
mobstarz.com
skylinesaustrailia.com
atomicpc.com
anandtech.com
grassrootsmotorsports.com
everythingcafe.com
pulsar.org
cr-x.org
canucks.com
speedguide.net
fjrforum.com
boards.ie
srtforums.com
mybroadband.co.za
boardreader.com
shotsweb.co.uk
bassresource.com
electricpicnic.ie
s2ki.com
clubsi.com
rockclimbing.com
chefsplanet.com
futurelooks.com
13x.com
nettby.no
elantraxd.com
aus300zx.com
bodybuilding.com
caraudio.com
subdriven.com
rockclimbing.com
diskisjon.no
sportsinferno.com
arstechnia.com
theperfectshine.com
blogspot.com
ogn.com.au
evolutionmn.net
importjunkiez.com


ohh and nsxprime.com:tongue:

im only on page 14 right now, but i needed a break, now back to reading




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its safe to say this thread has been posted on over 250 sites! many of the forums on the lists posted arent even in my short goodgle search, cheers nick, your famous!
 
Re: Regarding Nick Sitko

If you classify the NSX as an "expensive car", you must be one broke-dick motherf'er... LOL.

ever buy parts for an nsx? :wink:

i'd hate to see this thread locked, but i'd love to get the forum back..... is there any way to move it to a different website to continue it there :wink:

definitely better than a few days ago, though - i guess we just gotta be patient for the time-being and enjoy all the visitors :smile:
 
Re: Regarding Nick Sitko

First, I would like to say that I feel bad for the kids of course and hope that people stop harassing them.

That being said, I have a couple of questions regarding nicks situation.

How can you act like he's such a wonderful guy besides the one "indiscretion" he had with a "totally willing minor"?

How can he call Kim his fiancee? He already has 2 kids with her and they're "engaged" still? She's not his fiancee, she's his "baby momma" or gf/so.


Also, I disagree with you notion that nick should just 'not show his face around here'. I think he needs to come back one last time and man-up, confess and apologize.

oh yeah, and in before tha...

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Let me identify myself. My name is Michael Storac. I am the webmaster and one of the managing directors of SO Clear Media Productions, Inc., a non-profit organization located in Clackamas, Oregon. It is a site that advocates the rationalization of laws with regard to registered sex offenders. While many people would call such an organization such as ourselves as a "sex offenders' rights" organization, in reality we call to task many of unintended consequences of such laws. The example that has perpetuated itself through this forum is EXACTLY the unintended consequences that have resulted in 4 people being terrorized-not an exaggeration-in their home and neighborhood due to the zeal of several people. Let that sink in for a few moments.

Of course, I'm talking about Nick Sitko.

First, let me address his actions. They were WRONG. Period. He should have been banned immediately. In fact, if he had done the same in any of my 63 forums that I host (unrelated to SO CLEAR), he not only would have been banned, his ISP would have been notified. But that is my policy, and written in no uncertain terms in my TOS agreement.

But I'm not excusing his behavior, nor the lack of the administrators for not banning him because of said behavior. In fact, I agree to a certain amount of "forum justice" myself, including identification of his name and even of his criminal past.

Nick did make several mistakes in trying to "justify" his actions. I don't without a doubt suspect that escalation in part because he was trying to make light of his exposure. But this is where the actions and statements of some of the forum members began to diverge from the righteous, to the abusive, to the criminal. Yes, criminal.

Once Nick was outed, that should have been it. Frankly, the board should have instantly nipped the thread in the bud and permanently banned Sitko, according to TOS of your site. But they didn't.

What happened, is an escalation of exposing Sitko's past. Someone posted information from the South Carolina Megan's Law website, either here in this thread or in other similar threads, which can be prosecuted as a misdemeanor, according to the South Carolina website. Others took to creating Wikipedia pages. Still others created a fake BBC documentary. There was bragging...BRAGGING!...that over 60 other threads were celebrating the "outing" of a sex offender because he broke forum rules.


And as such is to happen, there were real world consequences.

You see, Nick Sitko has a family. He has a fiancee and two children. And the harassment was limited NOT JUST to Nick Sitko, but to the rest of his family as well. Including a 6 month baby.



I talked to his fiancee. Indeed, her name is Kim Williford. You, along with billions of other people around the world, know her address. She is fighting mad, as she should be. But it is not her I speak of now...it is her older child.

Nursing a 6 month old baby is hard enough, but trying to explain to a toddler why a bunch of people are driving by the house, yelling bad things, is a terrible burden to deal with. Having to deal with a father who is suddenly scared and sullen. Having to deal with the phone ringing with people hanging up all the time. Have any of YOU ever dealt with this type of terror? Have you?

"But he's a sex offender...he DESERVES every bit of agony, of terror that he has given his victim!"

Really. Tell that to his toddler, happy as a lark around Christmas, who is suddenly afraid and anxious, cries at all hours, and is scared. Not just scared...scared out of his WITS.

Would ANY of you want that for any of YOUR children?

Would any of you want that for ANY child, no matter who they belong to?

Big men. Drive expensive cars and are responsible for the terror of a five year old child. Hmmph.

Frankly, I don't know what Nick and Kim have in mind from a legal standpoint. They have the IMMEDIATE concern of dealing with their children, and in fact their immediate circumstances from an employment standpoint.

I will be very clear: What Nick did when this thread started was inexcusable. But NOT criminal. I want to emphasize that point.

The escalation has resulted in many crimes being committed, however. Yes, crimes. I have had a bit of experience in law myself, and several people have opined that just because they pulled the public court record from the court, not from the registry, they are well within their rights to post it on a forum. However, they fail to realize that it was the REGISTRY that triggered the action to obtain the records, and the MANNER in which the court record were disseminated was the result of an illegal posting of the registry information in the first place. Tread lightly with that argument; it's been successfully prosecuted in similar circumstances.

As I said before the sheer volume and intensity of interest has predictably triggered the harassment of Nick and Kim. The fact that people here are celebrating the fact that someone's been outed, that it has made this forum the most popular car forum in history, is frankly beyond the pale in my book. Yes, deal harshly with someone who spams you. But don't use the excuse that "Nick kept showing up and lying, again and again, so we are justified in doing what we did." Fine.


I will state this: Nick will never show his face around this forum again. I have talked to his fiancee about the inadvisability of using forum signatures for affiliate marketing; I'm sure their lawyer will advise him more succinctly. The fact that he did what he did is, again, inexcusable, but not criminally illegal. The threats his family have received IS criminally illegal. And the threats would not have occurred without the escalation that was, in fact, encouraged.

But keep in mind, the real victim of Nick's stupidity, and many members depravity: his child. For God's sake, let's cut the cord NOW, and go back to talking about cars. Leave his family alone by stopping the perpetuation of this terroristic nonsense.

I do not plan on replying within this thread, as I believe in more transparent communication. I can be reached at [email protected], and the organization is on the web at http://www.soclear.org. NOTE: This is not a promotion, but an identification of who I am, including our business address and phone number, for the purpose of transparency. I will respond to any reasonable email, no matter your position on sex offender issues and Internet law.
 
i enjoyed this , even my son, home from college enjoyed it ,but enough is enough, i'am trying to find a nice nsx ,instead i 'am getting nocked off by a jackass , big waste of time,
 
BTW. I have come to the conclusion there are easier ways to own a NSX. this would be a fitting last post for nick to put up.:D
 
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