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- 10 February 2000
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Lud,
Stop jerking us around. This is your forum and you catch people messing around even in minor ways pretty quickly. I don't believe for a second that you are not aware of the exact extent and degree to which Mark Johnson arbitrarily screws members of our community over and never resolves anything himself. Don't insult our intelligence by playing the "I don't know enough, tell me more," part.
Either ban the guy or don't, but don't pretend it's our responsibility to figure things out for you. You've had more than enough feedback and there's more than enough information already on this thread to damn Mark Johnson.
(Personally, I would think the link to the issue with scamming Guus Toth, even post-mortem, would be enough to make your mind up. But, apparently it's not...?)
Seriously, Lud. Man up.
Do you really not understand the difference between moderating a forum and evaluating forum members dissatisfaction with a vendor? I will try to explain:
First, I am generally not the one to "catch people messing around in even minor ways pretty quickly." The vast majority of instances where I take moderator action are because someone used the "report post" function to alert me there was something I should take a look at. I don't even read the majority of the threads on here anymore because the rest of running the site takes up the time I used to spend participating.
Second, and most importantly, I am moderating the site based entirely on what is posted in the messages. Certainly I make judgement calls based on history, what I perceive as the person's intent, how serious an offense it is, etc, but what I am acting on is entirely in front of me.
When dealing with vendor disputes, it is FAR less clear. I have no part in the transactions. I don't see the e-mails. I don't know what else was going on in the transaction - I rarely even hear both sides of the story, much less the truth. I see some people post complaints, I see a lot of people post praise. Certainly I have seen more complaints about Dali than other vendors, but I don't know if/when/how most of the complaints are resolved and how many are based on being truly "ripped off" versus personality conflicts, poor customer service, etc.
Thus I asked for some folks to help me get a clear picture of where things really stand. The request is fairly simple, though I am sure it will take some time (which is why I asked for help). I figured some of the people who seem to care so passionately about this issue would be glad to help. If nobody is willing to even make that much effort, I am not really inclined to pursue it further at this time either.
P.S. I certainly don't expect people to kiss my butt or even necessarily agree with me, but if you can't express your disagreement without personally attacking me I'm not going to be very inclined to listen to what you have to say. Being hostile towards someone who is making a good faith effort to help is rarely going to get you the best possible result.