That was funny! Good investigation there Floyd.
Add a turbo.
Make it a supercar.
Like other here I don't consider the NSX a supercar - I'm not sure if I would even say it was an exotic - I don't believe any of Porsches regular production cars is an exotic or supercar, maybe the 911 GT3. The Carrera GT was the only Porsche super car that comes to mind of recent date. I don't even consider the 959 to be an exotic now. Historically it was but that technology was moved into regular production vehicles and even surpased in todays 911s.
It is a true sports car and it is a true performance car - even today I believe it to be. It may not be as fast as the GTR or many others but it is still as fast in the right hands as many "sports cars" are today.
This is one of those simantic areas that will always be argued. For the day with it's aluminum body, frame and suspension it was probably an exotic. It wasn't cheap back then either. When it went out of production it was as expensive as a new 911. I would of course rather have had a new NSX than a new water cooled 996 - for sure. Actually the 911 is a sports GT - it has rear seats after all.
... But 2002+ NSXs are just embarrassment to the company and a slap in the face for all NSX enthusiasts.
Steve
Well, consider myself slapped in the face and I'm sorry I endorsed an embarassment to the company. I've never been so happy owning an embarrassing car that silently pisses-off other NSX owners. :wink:
Well I'm with Steve...Heck after 14 years of "evolution" put the 91 next to the 05......compare the real differences ie..significant improvements....now if man evolved at that relative pace the degree of change that you or I would have from say a mitochandria=91 nsx would be a mitochandria with one more atp moleculeThis is a great post Keith I really think your point is right on. We all love our NSXs and just think - at least Honda built this fine car! I am really happy you found yours and I love all of them. I can't wait to hang out with you some and do some driving together up in the mountains - hopefully soon.
I don't consider the evolution a slap in the face as one put it but surely it would have been nice to see Honda evolve the engine specs more for more displacement and offer perhaps a stock SC or TC. I really think that there is always room for improvement in all autos and all ther sports car manufactureres are always trying to get better and making their cars faster, handle better, more reliable ,etc. I wish Honda had put more effort into keeping their sports car alive and advertising it waaaaaay more! Look at the advertising that Porsche does!
Anyway, happy trails my friend,
Hi All,
Just a FYI...
In the February 2010 issue of Motor Trend on Page 10 there is an article
titled "a question of character" ...what really makes a supercar great...
The NSX & R32 GT are referred to as a "Supercars" in this article...
Interesting read.
Seeya,
Jeff
You are totally missing the point. Before the 2002 came out, there was a LOT of speculations and expectations about the 2002 NSX. With the level of performance of the S2000, Ferrari 360, M3, Corvette, and the capabilities of everyone else's cars exotic or not, Honda needed some major enhancements to keep up with its OLD competitors. So after all the longings, what did we get? A car with a few pieces of new body panels and gold colored calipers WITHOUT any changes in engine and tranny. Even the tape deck stayed. By itself, the 2002+ is not a bad car. Afterall it is the newest and most updated version of the NSX. But that was the BEST Honda could do back in 2002!!!??? That was embarrassing in my book. To the the NSX enthusiasts such as myself who had patiently waited for a new level of evolutions and have bought 4 NSXs so far, I don't think Honda delivered what it's founder nor their fans wanted.Well, consider myself slapped in the face and I'm sorry I endorsed an embarassment to the company. I've never been so happy owning an embarrassing car that silently pisses-off other NSX owners. :wink:
This is a great post Keith I really think your point is right on. We all love our NSXs and just think - at least Honda built this fine car! I am really happy you found yours and I love all of them. I can't wait to hang out with you some and do some driving together up in the mountains - hopefully soon.
I don't consider the evolution a slap in the face as one put it but surely it would have been nice to see Honda evolve the engine specs more for more displacement and offer perhaps a stock SC or TC. I really think that there is always room for improvement in all autos and all ther sports car manufactureres are always trying to get better and making their cars faster, handle better, more reliable ,etc. I wish Honda had put more effort into keeping their sports car alive and advertising it waaaaaay more! Look at the advertising that Porsche does!
Anyway, happy trails my friend,
Can we just love the NSX for what it is ? Is that OK ?
I personally call it an exotic. It was and still IS.
To me it was never a "supercar". It lacked 100 HP (at least) for that designation.
When Road and Track compared it in their August 1990 magazine they did not put it up against the F40 and 959.
They used the Porsche 911SC and Corvette ZR1. It held its own spec wise.
The beauty of the NSX is not measured with statistics.
that is exactly what i think of when i think of the word "supercar". a corvette should not be in a list with these boys
Tim,
You are/were a fellow Porsche owner. Porsche sells cars not because of advertisement, but from substance. The word "evolutions" is practiced by Porsche. There is no evolution in the NSX in any meaningful way other than the 200cc increase in displacement and the 6th gear. I love the NSX and I also wish it could get the progresses the entry level Ferrari got.
Here is my garage currently. I still love these senile Porsches because they were truly great cars when they were still in production. They are slow and clumsy by today's standards.
Steve