I hope you don't mind me indulging in a chuckle as you comment that a forums "clothing" is essentially irrelevant.It's hard to imagine visiting or not visiting a forum based on skins and colors. The content is what really matters.
Is that "Formula Red" or "New Formula Red"? :biggrin:The upgrade is in and functioning, I'm currently installing plug-ins, then I'll mess with other settings and edit the style to bring back NSX Prime Red!
Why dont we hold off on the complaining until he is done?? Every few times i log on i notice something has been changed from the last time... Lets reserve judgement until its finished... Then flame-on if you must.
Completely agree. The comments of "I don't like it" or "Day 2, I still don't like it" irritates me. He's not even done implementing the changes. We still have a LOOOONG way to go yet.
Current settings:
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It doesn't need to be exactly like i did above, but i wanted to show
that some more contrast between OLD and NEW would be better.
What are you referring to? There is a "new posts" link under the "What's New" and "Forum" headers.I miss the ability to just start reading the most recent posts. It summarizes all the cats gorier and you don't have to go back and forth to the main menu. How about a read newly posted capability?
What are you referring to? There is a "new posts" link under the "What's New" and "Forum" headers.
Ran a very large forum since 2004 and have to do many major upgrades and it's a thankless job. You go through all of the work and as soon as it's over everybody bitches because everything isn't exactly the same as they left it.
I like it, the color is cool too. better on your eyes late at night, or sneaking in a thread while the wife is sleeping LOL
now this is a great change. Enthusify not so much LOL
Also my back button still doesnt work. to go back to the main page you need to click Forum for it to refresh the page, F5 doesnt refresh it either.
I miss the old search function using google. Vbulletin search doesn't seem to yield results.
Question to the admin: does the new version affect the tapatalk plug in ?
If I may ...
I was in this thread http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/168205-So-I-bought-an-R-wing-but
I wanted to quote just a single image so I copied the URL but when I tried to insert the image, it said the file was too big. You might want to check into that before your inbox gets spammed by people who want to post pictures ;-)
Also, the image dialog box was kinda and, in my opinion, not necessary
wow am I the only one who is kinda lost.....anyway.....when I click on suscribed threads it lists all my threads in one long list whereas before it only listed the ones that had new responses and was easier to navigate because it excluded the threads where I was the last respondent.....am I missing a setting?
[a bunch of people complaining about the one-column layout with the user information at the top vs. the two-column layout with the user info on the left]
I love the new "Activity" view and feel better about using it vs. constantly hitting the search engine for latest/unread posts.
Profile info on left of post (before) requires less vertical scrolling, but profile info on top (current) means wider embedded photos will fit on the width of narrower screens. Other benefit to on left was it was easy to zoom in on mobile platforms (on just the right column)...but the new software uses a different display format for mobile which is much better. The new software is a win for me, just for that (improved mobile experience). I also like the way replies open up a new section where you hit reply, instead of opening a new page and going to the end of the thread. That will make it easier to pick up reading, after replying, where one left off. I imagine we'll uncover more things to like as we use the new site.
OK, I do have a question/confusion. On the man thread listing. There is orange open envelopes and blue open envelopes - what is the difference? I figured out that gray closed envelopes mean "read, no new replies."
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Ok, that is interesting...when I post another reply it just appends to my last (if my last was the last in the thread).
I lied, one more comment. The mobile version is pretty generic (complete with "vBulletin" logo). You (Lud) will probably want to adjust colors/logos to make it more NSX-Prime-like, and make sure ads show up on mobile so monetization doesn't decrease.
What's up with the wiki? Requires a log in and won't take the one for the forum. I don't think this related to Wiki Champ being put in charge since I used to be able to edit and add stuff.
Automated emails are now sent from @gmail.com instead of @nsxprime.com
Intentional?
Haha.
Back in October I bought another copy of vBulletin and set up an entire separate forum and asked people here to check it out and give feedback related to vB4 and how they'd like to see it implemented here.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showt...tin-4-x-with-a-new-EV-site-Please-take-a-look!
I implemented all the suggestions people gave me. Which was none.
Ran a very large forum since 2004 and have to do many major upgrades and it's a thankless job. You go through all of the work and as soon as it's over everybody bitches because everything isn't exactly the same as they left it.
Thanks for all the work as always, but this seems like a change only for sake of change and not for the better, just like tapatalk's recent "upgrade" that softened the line between individual posts and reduced the intuitiveness and readability. Like current auto design's fake fender vents, complex & expensive light clusters, and occasionally over-wrought sheet metal creases - sometimes it's ok to put the pencil down and leave it down. IMHO.
I don't really use subscribed threads so if I'm not understanding someone please explain the issue a little better.
Speaking for at least myself, I never saw that post and probably neither did most others, as that thread currently has 498 views over the past 50+ days vs. how this thread has 3,200 views at the moment, most of which probably coming in since 11/24. Not complaining - just proposing why possibly such little feedback.
I've been on the board of directors of a volunteer agency here in Pittsburgh for 10+ years and know the feelings you describe above and most likely would have commented had I seen that thread, as I'm a big fan of nsxprime and can have strong preferences when things I really enjoy are radically changed. When the masses are happy your thanks are often chirping crickets and when the masses are unhappy you quickly HEAR how much people care. Remember, love can usually equal much noise and emotion and can be confused with dislike or hate, but apathy = quiet or gone.
I appreciate his work and have stated so often, and think the majority feel similarly as most of us thanked him in our feedback postings here and/or are donating supporters of Prime (me since October 2011, and NSXCA since January 2011).
Perhaps this is a good time to feedback: are you bringing back the "Support NSX Prime" button that I thought used to be on the top of the screen?
One point of clarification from my post:
I was absolutely referring to Vbulletin, not Lud, for engineering some changes that I don't favor and still see as only for the sake of change and not for true improvement. I knew I expressed that poorly and regret if it came out as an unappreciative comment on Lud. My biggest gripe was/is less so the increased white space but the general decreased readability.
As can be seen below, it's much easier to read the conversation when your eyes aren't fighting to skip around & discern what is conversation vs. user info vs. meaningless repeating the thread topic in bold font vs. sig file, all of which now blend together too easily and "interrupt" the conversation between posts. And this is made even worse by how the border line that separates and boxes in individual posts is now barely visible. The prior way of boxing in a post with a darker border line, having the user info to the left, having the 4-line sig file start right after a thin black line, and having minimal additional shaded thick lines made it super easy and intuitive to separate posts and follow a conversation. Maybe it's just me but the least emphasized part of a post now is the discussion. You practically have to concentrate now to find and read it. Vb considers this an upgrade?
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I sincerely appreciate your recognizing the clunkiness here and your looking into it. That really stands out to me as a very poor change by Vbulletin and really decreased my enjoyment of Prime's main offering (forum threads) so I had to post.
I use subscription folders all the time, binning them into things like "wheel tech," "buying advice," "maintenance," "detailing tips," etc, and think some are looking for how to sort thru their subscribed posts in a way other than viewing in order of recent posts under the "Subscriptions" tab in your "My Activity" tab.... What may help some is: if you go to "My Profile" way up top, then "Quick Links" in the black bar, then "My Subscriptions," you'll find access to your subscription folders in a nicely formatted way. I was really unhappy too until I found that, as it's not instantly intuitive where that feature was relocated.
In closing during this horrible insomnia I'm hit with tonight starting about 40 minutes ago, I sincerely am enjoying and appreciate the auto-save feature and the "What's New" feature, and as always appreciate your work on the site. This is sure similar to how most here love the simple & classic lines of the gen 1 NSX but are so polar about the new NSX. Sometimes less is more!
Now if only I can find time to finish my NSXPrime decal submissions.... Good night all.
Speaking for at least myself, I never saw that post and probably neither did most others, as that thread currently has 498 views over the past 50+ days vs. how this thread has 3,200 views at the moment, most of which probably coming in since 11/24. Not complaining - just proposing why possibly such little feedback.
Perhaps this is a good time to feedback: are you bringing back the "Support NSX Prime" button that I thought used to be on the top of the screen?
As can be seen below, it's much easier to read the conversation when your eyes aren't fighting to skip around & discern what is conversation vs. user info vs. meaningless repeating the thread topic in bold font vs. sig file, all of which now blend together too easily and "interrupt" the conversation between posts. And this is made even worse by how the border line that separates and boxes in individual posts is now barely visible. The prior way of boxing in a post with a darker border line, having the user info to the left, having the 4-line sig file start right after a thin black line, and having minimal additional shaded thick lines made it super easy and intuitive to separate posts and follow a conversation. Maybe it's just me but the least emphasized part of a post now is the discussion. You practically have to concentrate now to find and read it. Vb considers this an upgrade?
I use subscription folders all the time, binning them into things like "wheel tech," "buying advice," "maintenance," "detailing tips," etc, and think some are looking for how to sort thru their subscribed posts in a way other than viewing in order of recent posts under the "Subscriptions" tab in your "My Activity" tab.... What may help some is: if you go to "My Profile" way up top, then "Quick Links" in the black bar, then "My Subscriptions," you'll find access to your subscription folders in a nicely formatted way. I was really unhappy too until I found that, as it's not instantly intuitive where that feature was relocated.
To change that layout all he has to do is enable the Postbit Layout option & everyone can choose whichever layout they want.
Use Legacy (Vertical) Postbit Template | ||
If you prefer the old-style postbit, using two vertical columns rather than the new horizontal layout, you can switch back to using that template with this switch. Please note that if you enable this option and wish to customize the template, you should edit the 'postbit_legacy' template rather than the 'postbit'. |
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Sorry if it was asked but can we now search for three letter words? That always threw off many searches before.
Is there a desire to keep a softer theme available? I have been working on a red theme since that has been the site's color scheme forever, but I am not necessarily opposed to maintaining a couple themes, it's just a bit more work so I need to see a real demand before I do it.
One important note though, for people talking about this layout wasting space or making threads longer... The two-column layout in vB4 takes more vertical space as well, because for some reason the signature line always starts below the lowest part of the user info line (avatar, name, title, join date, iTrader rating, etc.) so for short posts there is a lot of white space under the end of the post before the signature starts. This is different from the template in vB3.x where the signature started right after the post ended. It may be possible to modify the template to get rid of that extra white space, but I haven't looked into that yet.
Yeah, so this is one of the reasons I set up the test site I mentioned above... because I knew it would be somewhat controversial. The switch between the two formats is just a setting on the admin side, but since nobody had a word to say about it on the test site I'm going to run it in one-column mode for a while and then solicit some feedback. I see pros and cons to both and don't really have a preference.
I agree. So consider me another vote for the "two column mode".As can be seen below, it's much easier to read the conversation when your eyes aren't fighting to skip around & discern...
Haha.
Back in October I bought another copy of vBulletin and set up an entire separate forum and asked people here to check it out and give feedback related to vB4 and how they'd like to see it implemented here.
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showt...tin-4-x-with-a-new-EV-site-Please-take-a-look!
I implemented all the suggestions people gave me. Which was none.
It's unbelievably frustrating to go through all the effort of setting up a completely new forum site in order to solicit feedback on a software upgrade in a way that was not disruptive to this site, and get nothing but crickets chirping. Then when I implement the new software the same way here some people are all agitated.