new ScienceofSpeed Laminova Supercharger System

ScienceofSpeed · 9 September 2009

new ScienceofSpeed Laminova Intercooler System for superchargers

ScienceofSpeed introduces an intercooler (aftercooler) for the NSX to be used in conjunction with ScienceofSpeed and Comptech (CT Engineering) supercharger systems.

http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produ...ucts/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/Laminova_Intercooler/

<img src="http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/engine_performance_products/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/Laminova_Intercooler/laminovadiagram.jpg" width="300" align="right" border="0">The placement of an intercooler in the NSX with a positive displacement supercharger is very limiting due to packaging constraints. Currently available intercoolers use a fabricated bar and plate radiator core sandwiched between the supercharger and intake manifold. However, due to the small plenum size available above the core and uneven distribution of the discharge from the supercharger, these systems peak at 42% thermal efficiency.

ScienceofSpeed has developed an intercooler design based on the Laminova intercooler core. The Laminova intercooler core is a revolutionary design that consists of single piece extruded aluminum cores that offer much higher efficiency due to the larger surface area and unique flow around the cores.

Testing has been completed to validate the design producing significant gains in power and torque by reducing inlet charge temperatures up to 98 degrees.

A ScienceofSpeed Supercharger System was first installed non-intercooled. The standard system with AEM EMS upgrade was installed on a NSX. A fast action open element air intake temperature sensor was installed in the intake manifold to log temperatures during dyno testing. The non-intercooled system produced a peak of 375 wheel horsepower with operating temperatures begining at 172 degrees F and ending at 246 degrees F at redline.

Then, the ScienceofSpeed Laminova Supercharger Intercooler was installed. No changes were made to the supercharger and the existing pulley was used. The system, even at idle, lowered intake temperature by 67 degrees, at mid-range lowered by 98 degrees, and at redline 81 degrees.

The car was then repetitively tested with loaded back to back pulls with approximately 5 seconds between pulls simulating real world use. The results were impressive with less than a 2-3 degree inlet temperature change and almost no measurable difference in power.

The car's power increased by 37 wheel hp and 34 wheel tq with no changes to the pulley to increase boost. In fact, the car made 416 wheel horsepower with less boost - only 7.6 psi. With a modified engine, the system is capable of producing more than 500 wheel horsepower.<table cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0" width="100%" border="0">
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67-98 degree temperature reduce at all RPMs</td>
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37 wheel hp, 34 wheel tq gains with no pulley / boost increase</td>
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The intercooler produces not only more power, but also increases reliability and safety from the engine while decreasing emissions and fuel consumption.

The ScienceofSpeed Laminova Supercharger Intercooler is designed for use with all ScienceofSpeed Supercharger Systems, and any Comptech / CT-Engineering Supercharger based on the Autorotor 1.7L compressor. ScienceofSpeed Supercharger Systems do not require any further upgrades to be used with the intercooler. Comptech / CT-Engineering Superchargers must upgrade both engine management and fuel systems (please inquire).

for more information:
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produ...ucts/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/Laminova_Intercooler/

Cheers,
-- Chris

NCC-1701D · 9 September 2009

This looks awesome Chris !!!!!!!!!!!!

Any early buy discounts or group buys on this great looking product?

ffffanman · 9 September 2009

I have spent close to 6 g on the car this year and would buy one of these in a sec if I had the right manifold.
Sh*t, I even printed extra money in case.
Trev

NCC-1701D · 9 September 2009

Chris@SoS said:
ScienceofSpeed Supercharger System / ScienceofSpeed Laminova Supercharger Intercooler Sale

We are offering the following discounts good until the end of this month, September 30th:

ScienceofSpeed Supercharger System (any year): $800.00 off
ScienceofSpeed Laminova Supercharger Intercooler and install kit: $200.00 off
Supercharger, Intercooler System, and install kit (purchased together): $1,200.00 off

Lead time is approximately 3 weeks currently. A 50% deposit is required.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

thank you,
-- Chris

That is very nice and awesome of you Chris. I will get things together on my end and make arrangements..

Its too bad that winter will be rolling around by the time I get my hands on one of these babies...

ffffanman · 9 September 2009

Use my Harley Mastercard so I get the Points dude!
Chris, I give my ok if Ed phones with my Mastercard.
Done
Thats the way we roll!
Now to buy the Dyno!
Trev

ScienceofSpeed · 9 September 2009

We have had several inquiries about the compatibility with a Whipple/Lysholm based Comptech supercharger. It would be possible to produce for systems with the "bolt on" top plate (production started around 2000), however, we would need at least 5 interested customers to redesign the housing to accept the different supercharger. In addition, we would need either Whipple/Lysholm based system or car with system installed here to make the changes. If you are interested, please let us know.

thank you,
-- Chris

ffffanman · 9 September 2009

Ouch, I never read the website where it said for the Autorotor 1.7 only.
Ratz Ed.
T

chudson1549 · 9 September 2009

Chris@SoS said:
We have had several inquiries about the compatibility with a Whipple/Lysholm based Comptech supercharger. It would be possible to produce for systems with the "bolt on" top plate (production started around 2000), however, we would need at least 5 interested customers to redesign the housing to accept the different supercharger. In addition, we would need either Whipple/Lysholm based system or car with system installed here to make the changes. If you are interested, please let us know.

thank you,
-- Chris

Chris I would be good for one. I have the Whipple unit near one of the last ones they made (04?). Installed just as comptech sent it. I already have a Denso fuel pump installed and my RC550CC injectors in the attic So, I'd need an AEM plus??????? what else Co'mon WHIPPLE GUYS ....NEED FOUR MORE

NCC-1701D · 9 September 2009

chudson1549 said:
Chris I would be good for one. I have the Whipple unit near one of the last ones they made (04?). Installed just as comptech sent it. I already have a Denso fuel pump installed and my RC550CC injectors in the attic So, I'd need an AEM plus??????? what else Co'mon WHIPPLE GUYS ....NEED FOUR MORE

If the price was the same and we get a $200 discount. I would be in for one as well. So count me in...... !!!

ffffanman · 9 September 2009

I will just strap an Ice Pack to the top of my whipple until I get a newer manifold and can be one of the boyz!
Trev

ScienceofSpeed · 9 September 2009

hi guys --

It sounds like we may have enough interest for the Whipple kits. If so, we can offer the same price and discount.

Please e-mail us at [email protected] with your contact information and I will send you details.

regards,
-- Chris

chudson1549 · 9 September 2009

BTW, Dumb Questions Chris. Aside from the like for like weight of the replacement manifold. How much more weight would be added to the cars from the added hoses, pump, coolant, etc? Just curious for the guys who have dropped the weight on our cars. Would the added HP and TQ produced override this?

NSXRguy · 9 September 2009

group buy for the autorotor kit?:biggrin:

ScienceofSpeed · 10 September 2009

chudson1549 said:
BTW, Dumb Questions Chris. Aside from the like for like weight of the replacement manifold. How much more weight would be added to the cars from the added hoses, pump, coolant, etc? Just curious for the guys who have dropped the weight on our cars. Would the added HP and TQ produced override this?

Sorry, I don't have an exact weight. I'd guess 20 lbs for everything? Power / weight isn't even comparable.

standard supercharger setup:
325hp/2900lbs = .11

add intercooler:
37hp/20lbs = 1.85

thanks,
-- Chris

ScienceofSpeed · 10 September 2009

NSXRguy said:
group buy for the autorotor kit?:biggrin:

Sorry, the Autorotor kit is no longer produced.

-- Chris

DrVolkl · 10 September 2009

Chris, I have the autorotor, etc etc... but I have a 2003 NSX.

How does this work with a newer car that's using the piggyback cpu??

Does the CT engineering targa bar still fit? (never mind, just looked that up) Will the targa cover from Comptech fit over it? (the zipper one)

How do you tune the car for this without an AEM? Can you? Is it the same as before, just messing with the fuel pressure regulator?

Do you have pictures of the front mounted heat exchanger? Will my STMPO bar still fit in there? What about my type R duct?

I'm very interested in this.

Deltron Zero · 10 September 2009

DrVolkl said:
How does this work with a newer car that's using the piggyback cpu??

How do you tune the car for this without an AEM? Can you? Is it the same as before, just messing with the fuel pressure regulator?

I have a similar question. Do you have to go with the AEM EMS or can you use the AEM F/IC?

ScienceofSpeed · 10 September 2009

DrVolkl said:
Chris, I have the autorotor, etc etc... but I have a 2003 NSX.

How does this work with a newer car that's using the piggyback cpu??

Does the CT engineering targa bar still fit? (never mind, just looked that up) Will the targa cover from Comptech fit over it? (the zipper one)

How do you tune the car for this without an AEM? Can you? Is it the same as before, just messing with the fuel pressure regulator?

Do you have pictures of the front mounted heat exchanger? Will my STMPO bar still fit in there? What about my type R duct?

I'm very interested in this.

Thank you for the questions. If you have an existing supercharger system installed, you will need to have the car tuned on the dyno after installation. The work to fine tune should be a fraction of the original tuning time required.

The Comptech and factory targa braces will not fit with the intercooler. In the future, we will offer a brace based on the new CT Engineering tubular engine brace. Sorry, the Comptech engine cover will not work with this intercooler.

Will post more photos this week.

Cheers,
-- Chris

NSXRguy · 10 September 2009

This kit is no longer produced for the autorotor? I thought it was made for it...

Deltron Zero · 10 September 2009

NSXRguy said:
This kit is no longer produced for the autorotor? I thought it was made for it...

I'm pretty sure he meant the Autorotor SC itself is no longer in production.

NSXRguy · 10 September 2009

Chris, I already have the autorotor kit. Let me know about the groupbuy for the autorotor aftercooler. Thanks

and what belt is used with the aftercooler? Stock supercharger belt?

ScienceofSpeed · 10 September 2009

Our introductory sale is listed above. The sale is good until the end of this month. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

regards,
-- Chris

Chris NSX · 10 September 2009

Chris@SoS said:
Thank you for the questions. If you have an existing supercharger system installed, you will need to have the car tuned on the dyno after installation. The work to fine tune should be a fraction of the original tuning time required.

The Comptech and factory targa braces will not fit with the intercooler. In the future, we will offer a brace based on the new CT Engineering tubular engine brace. Sorry, the Comptech engine cover will not work with this intercooler. We believe other aftermarket covers may - and will test this week.

Will post more photos this week.

Cheers,
-- Chris

Please test if it fits under NSX-R engine cover.

Semnos_NSX · 10 September 2009

I don’t want to say anything bad about this intercooler set up because it is obviously very nice. However, if the triangular engine brace is not compatible for Targa models, I’m curious as to why any T-top owner would want one of these intercoolers?

When I first bought my car, for whatever reason, the previous owner installed a coupe brace instead of the Triangular one (The car is a Targa with a high boost CTSC). After taking it to Autowave for some maintenance, Mike drove the car and told me it pulled strong but handled like a wet noodle. He advised me to put the C/T triangle brace on the car so I did. Once the new triangular brace was on, the car felt so much tighter and the handling was night and day! I instantly knew what he was talking about when he referenced a “wet noodle”.

chudson1549 · 10 September 2009

Chris@SoS said:
Sorry, I don't have an exact weight. I'd guess 20 lbs for everything? Power / weight isn't even comparable.

standard supercharger setup:
325hp/2900lbs = .11

add intercooler:
37hp/20lbs = 1.85

thanks,
-- Chris

Good Stuff thanks Chris

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