The Official 2012 F1 Thread...

[myhui]

I am actually relieved that the more aggressive drivers didn't win at the street circuits like this one.

Those are the most dangerous circuits on the calendar.

I watch the race in fear that there may be a big crash resulting in fatal injuries.

 

[Sandro]

I 'm not so happy with Ferrari performance today but again Fernando did best he can.Mclaren and RB are very fast cars in this moments.
Sure you know for Schumy penalty 10 place for Suzuka.

 

[myhui]

Sure you know for Schumy penalty 10 place for Suzuka.

Michael claims it was a car malfunction.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

BBC staff comment on McLaren at the end of qualifying, plus interviews with Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso:

http://youtu.be/8C95oTz8CXo

I'll remove it in three days, as I'm sure the Formula One Group won't approve of it if I leave it up much longer.

But, this is for research purposes to further our discussions here. So, for that purpose alone, three days of air time is sufficient.

Great quality, thanks man. Is there any way you could post up BBC's Forum in HD somehow? Even a link to download it would be awesome.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

JS's Singapore GP Thoughts:

• This retirement for Lewis may just push him to Mercedes if he was still debating where he would go next season.
• Don't understand why Jenson didn't try to chase down Vettel within the last 10 laps.
• Schumi needs to give it up now...he's ruining his legacy.
• I'd rather see Vettel win a 3rd championship than Alonso.
• Massa's move on Senna was UNREAL but it all seems like too little too late.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Here is your happy family shot:

BBC excerpts hosted elsewhere, for a limited time only:

http://s910.photobucket.com/albums/ac305/myhui/?action=view&current=QE1_zps339daf64.mp4

http://s910.photobucket.com/albums/ac305/myhui/?action=view&current=QE2_zps4dcc89e3.mp4

Thanks for the upload. How do you get BBC?

 

[myhui]

For a taste of what can happen during the next six races, read what Kimi-Matias Räikkönen did in 2007:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimi_R%C3%A4ikk%C3%B6nen

Magnificent!

 

[Miner]

I'm planning on the team to go to the whip and fend off Vettel for the WDC. It's a good thing Mac keep stepping over their cranks or Hamilton would be in running.
Another solid run for Massa. If not for the cut tire (poor qualifying) he ran a solid race. I don't know it it will be enough to stay w/ the team next year but he has my vote.
Miner

 

[NSXrebel]

Alonso looks like he'll be 3x WDC. As long as Vettel or Hamilton don't win another WDC, I'm good. If Button can beat Hamilton in the standings, I'll be even happier. I predict Jenny will finish 4th or maybe even 3rd by the end of the season. He'll definitely pass Webba in the points.

 

[myhui]

Thanks for the upload. How do you get BBC?

Via wonders of the internet ... !

I'll remove those videos in a day.

 

[scorp965]

Anyone else becoming increasingly bored at the spectacle? I've been watching F1 for about ten years, and the last two years the urgency is gone; I've missed 3 of the last 5 races, and don't really care.

There was a time when I'd stay up to watch races live.

 

[SFNSXguy]

^ Are you talking about THIS YEAR'S races?

You must be watching the "way back machine" channel.

 

[scorp965]

^ Are you talking about THIS YEAR'S races?

You must be watching the "way back machine" channel.

You can watch qualifying, or wait until the morning to see which penalties resulted in what final order. It's difficult to care about qualifying when the stewards design the final grid order afterwards, with penalties being the rule, and not the exception.

In terms of the race itself, DRS creates an artificial overtaking situation; watching the flap modulate kills all excitement for me. When not in a DRS situation the experienced drivers are too busy managing tires. You have what could be an epic battle between drivers instead decided by a hydraulic ram in a certain 'power up' zone - perhaps Mario Kart, not F1.

It's a situation where more swapping of places is occurring, but nearly all of the position swaps are contrived - I can't get excited about that.

 

[Sandro]

This season F1 is so unpredictable and fun to watch I remember past years where you can see one team winning with no overtaking and procession round track.
That was boring but I still enjoyed.

 

[docjohn]

You can watch qualifying, or wait until the morning to see which penalties resulted in what final order. It's difficult to care about qualifying when the stewards design the final grid order afterwards, with penalties being the rule, and not the exception.

In terms of the race itself, DRS creates an artificial overtaking situation; watching the flap modulate kills all excitement for me. When not in a DRS situation the experienced drivers are too busy managing tires. You have what could be an epic battle between drivers instead decided by a hydraulic ram in a certain 'power up' zone - perhaps Mario Kart, not F1.

It's a situation where more swapping of places is occurring, but nearly all of the position swaps are contrived - I can't get excited about that.

I'm also not a fan of these mechanical aids,but as was said the older formula led to painful lead follow.......I'd love to go back to manual gearboxes and three pedals.:wink: The technical details and tire strategy is still interresting.The speed and reaction time of these drivers is amazing.

 

[myhui]

I remember past years where you can see one team winning with no overtaking and procession round track.
That was boring but I still enjoyed.

You mean the famous year that every one still talks about, when Prost and Senna won every race but one in a McLaren, powered by Honda. Well, it still was not a boring year, since Prost vs. Senna was hugely interesting, and very emotional as well.

 

[Sandro]

You mean the famous year that every one still talks about, when Prost and Senna won every race but one in a McLaren, powered by Honda. Well, it still was not a boring year, since Prost vs. Senna was hugely interesting, and very emotional as well.

Not realy I thought the early 2000.

 

[dquarasr2]

It's a situation where more swapping of places is occurring, but nearly all of the position swaps are contrived - I can't get excited about that.

I'm of the same mindset, although I still watch, mostly to marvel at the technology.

I'll never forget the first time I saw F1 in person. I had to recalibrate my brain at the braking performance. It took me 20 laps to stop thinking, on every car that went by, "Oh, crap, he's not going to make it! Oh, he made it." :biggrin:

I've been saying for years that I think the best way to introduce more passing is to restrict the braking. The brake distances are SO incredibly short, it's so, so difficult to get alongside to pass.

If the braking distances were longer, there might be more opportunities. This is still a contrivance, but less objectionable since this would not provide the trailing car an advantage the leading car does not have; it would be more fair.

 

[docjohn]

I'm of the same mindset, although I still watch, mostly to marvel at the technology.

I'll never forget the first time I saw F1 in person. I had to recalibrate my brain at the braking performance. It took me 20 laps to stop thinking, on every car that went by, "Oh, crap, he's not going to make it! Oh, he made it." :biggrin:

I've been saying for years that I think the best way to introduce more passing is to restrict the braking. The brake distances are SO incredibly short, it's so, so difficult to get alongside to pass.

If the braking distances were longer, there might be more opportunities. This is still a contrivance, but less objectionable since this would not provide the trailing car an advantage the leading car does not have; it would be more fair.

Good point..I say F1 needs to switch to steel rotors and porterfield rs4 pads:wink:.....that will increase that distance:biggrin:

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Lewis Hamilton to join Mercedes in $100m move from McLaren

HOLY SH*T...I can't believe it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...-join-Mercedes-in-100m-move-from-McLaren.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/sep/28/lewis-hamilton-formulaone

Lewis Hamilton will on Friday bring to an end one of the most controversial and long-running transfer sagas in Formula One history by announcing that he is leaving McLaren, the team he has been with over half his life, for rivals Mercedes in a three-year deal which could be worth as much as $100million (£61.6million).

There is no doubt, though, that Hamilton’s rejection, particularly after McLaren returned more than once in recent weeks with improved deals, reportedly matching Mercedes’ offer, will come as a bitter blow to the team who nurtured the 27 year-old from young karter to F1 world champion.

Wow it just goes to show how good of a guy Jenson is if he still volunteered to help Lewis and play second fiddle to his attempt at winning the WDC this season. This is insane. It's his right to leave McLaren but this is almost like the whole Lebron leaving the Cavs situation.

 

[Sandro]

^Unbelievable but true.It happened.Sergio in Mclaren.

 

[myhui]

If this is 1985, McLaren will sign a Japanese driver instead of a Mexican one.

 

[docjohn]

show me the money.......nothing wrong with maximizing income when your shelf life is short.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Checo is just a poor man's version of Jenson. McLaren really excelled at having two differing driving styles in Lewis & Jenson which I think they will sorely miss. Lewis better pray Mercedes/Brawn have an amazing car for him next season.

 

[myhui]

Does this finally imply that no Honda turbo V6 will be forthcoming in 2014?